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WendyCR72
WendyCR72

Let me introduce you to How I Met Your Mother...

Sara2009
Sara2009

Tbh, this drama is more interesting than the show has been in quite some time.

oberon55
oberon55

This is completely true. But at the same time I watch TV for escape. I watch all kinds of shows & have different expectations depending on the show. When I watch gritty shows like Breaking Bad or

Chado

Chado

We're keeping score right?

You can if you want :)

 

I'm only talking about the total silence when it comes to talking about her character and what is happening on the show. It's no coincidence she's been dead silent on it.

Maybe she knows how stupid the breakup storyline is and doesn't want to sound like an idiot defending it?

She wanted 'meat' for her character, she should be able to speak about it now that she has it.

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KaveDweller

KaveDweller

You can if you want :)

 

I'm only talking about the total silence when it comes to talking about her character and what is happening on the show. It's no coincidence she's been dead silent on it.

 

When you say it's no coincidence, what exactly do you mean? Just that she's not giving interviews because she knows people don't like it? That it somehow means she's responsible for the story? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm really just not sure I understand what your implying.

 

She wanted 'meat' for her character, she should be able to speak about it now that she has it.

 

Well she may have wanted meat, but maybe she expected the writers to give her less stupid meat? I know actors like to do things that interest them, but I would think most of them also want the storylines to make some sense.

 

And I was really just kidding with my original comment, but I don't really think she got any meat, at least not yet. The only really dramatic scene she's had this season is the break up in XX, but that wasn't really a stretch of her acting chops compared to other seasons. The few scenes of her investigating Locksat weren't any more interesting/dramatic than any regular investigation scene.

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Chado

Chado

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When you say it's no coincidence, what exactly do you mean? Just that she's not giving interviews because she knows people don't like it? That it somehow means she's responsible for the story? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm really just not sure I understand what your implying.

 

Well she may have wanted meat, but maybe she expected the writers to give her less stupid meat? I know actors like to do things that interest them, but I would think most of them also want the storylines to make some sense.

She asked for her character to be given a proper 'meaty' storyline in her negotiations, she knew what path the new showrunners would go down (captain or political) so she's responsible in that sense, but I'm not implying that she wanted the characters to break up or anything. The showrunners write the story under the guidelines in which the leads probably negotiated in their contracts. So there is responsibility on her shoulders (same with NF), but I'm not pointing fingers at one person for this horror show.

 

What I will say, and find unbelievable (and why I mention SK specifically), is that people attack NF for being involved in promoting season 8, specifically the live-tweeting and the interviews talking about the show's future direction....when SK has been dead silent about it. He's putting himself out there to get shot down. SK isn't talking about it at all. You can call that intelligent, cowardly, whatever, it doesn't matter.

 

I think she isn't talking about it because like you suggested, she realizes the negativity around the storyline and the negativity around the show (most of which is directed at her character) and wants to try and avoid answering questions that will be picked apart. But here's the thing, guess what? Too bad.

 

It's her character, this entire season is built off the actions of Beckett, not Castle. Do you seriously think nobody has wanted to interview SK about season 8 specifically, to talk about her character? if you answer that question with a 'no', then why hasn't it happened?

 

Like I said earlier, you may think it is intelligent to stay away from it, but I think it's cowardly. The showrunners are getting destroyed online, every time they speak, it starts up again. Every time they try to speak about season 8, the characters intentions, anything...they get picked apart. NF talks about the decision to break up Castle and Beckett, gets picked apart. Where is SK in all of this? The one character, this entire story falls on, and she is dead silent about it.

 

So many people idolize Stana, so many people watch entirely for Beckett. Do you know what sort of influence her words would have on so many people, in regards to this storyline? How many people would want to hear her take on the events of season 8, her interpretation of what Beckett is going through?

 

So overall, no...it isn't her responsibility alone, but she is involved in this. It's pretty pathetic for her to just stick her head in the sand, and pretend it isn't happening.

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WendyCR72

WendyCR72

I have let this ride, but this seems to have run very far afield. From everyone. So let's agree to disagree about the leads and their responsibilities and keep this to actual media rather than supposition as it is clear it is all guesswork in the end.

 

Thanks.

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verdana

verdana

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Maybe she knows how stupid the breakup storyline is and doesn't want to sound like an idiot defending it?

 

Heh that's my guess. I can understand her being told by the writers at the start of the season Beckett would get a meatier storyline and if that was the case then she's been sold a pup.

 

The "meat" is rancid. The Locksat business has not moved forward since 8.02 and as for her new role as Captain Beckett there's been nothing interesting there either story wise that I can see which would excite her. May be she in the latter half of the season she's going to be getting something better as the story (hopefully) picks up momentum. 

 

So many people idolize Stana, so many people watch entirely for Beckett. Do you know what sort of influence her words would have on so many people, in regards to this storyline? How many people would want to hear her take on the events of season 8, her interpretation of what Beckett is going through?

I was quite keen before to hear from Stana but at this stage I'm glad she's chosen to remain quiet because I'm only going to get pissed off if she tries justifying this pile of crap. I doubt there's anything she (and certainly not the writers) can say by way of analysis etc that's going to make me see things in a more favourable light. I know they've said to fans wait until the fall finale and you may appreciate it more but I'm highly skeptical. Even is Stana thought this story was disappointing she's not going to say anything critical about it in print, she's professional, values her reputation and wants to stay on good terms with the people that count. May be some of her fans would feel better hearing her explanations but I wouldn't be one of them. 

So overall, no...it isn't her responsibility alone, but she is involved in this. It's pretty pathetic for her to just stick her head in the sand, and pretend it isn't happening.

I presume stars when they sign a contract they have to agree to do a set amount of promotion on the show be it live tweeting, interviews, apperances etc over the course of a season. I also assume that Stana is not doing anything to go against her contractual obligations, she's doing exactly what has been asked of her no more no less so whoever made up her contract Stana should be thanking them because she seems to have managed to get a better deal than Nathan on that front. The show is named Castle and Nathan's No 1 so I doubt he can get away with being unavailable, he has to grin and bear it and he seems fine about facing the flak, hell it's water off a duck's back at this stage. I doubt he cares what gets said about him he's been in this business such a long time. 

 

ETA Sorry Wendy I literally just posted this then saw your message. 

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Chado

Chado

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Anybody find it weird how casual her 'Hi Castle' was?

 

My prediction for the actual 'surprise'. I'm guessing his surprise fails entirely, Beckett walks away from it, and Castle looks pathetic at the end of it.

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Julia

Julia

It's wacky and fun. Remember that. The music compels you.

 

Sorry if this is too far off-topic, but have you seen the romantic comedy trailer for The Shining? Because that's what you just reminded me of.

 

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cappuccino

cappuccino

My prediction for the actual 'surprise'. I'm guessing his surprise fails entirely, Beckett walks away from it, and Castle looks pathetic at the end of it.

I bet Beckett won't even see it. She walks away and then Castle's remote finally works. The confetti explosion happens while she isn't even in the office.

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verdana

verdana

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Castle ‏@Castle_ABC  22m22 minutes ago

What do you think #Castle is planning for Beckett?

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Castle?src=hash

 

Although my sympathy for Castle has severely waned I do feel kind of sad for the guy reduced to putting a banner up over his wife's desk and throwing some confetti around its hardly that intimate, they'll get very little personal time together at her work of all places. There was a picture of them looking at each other in the loft though in one promo and I wonder if that's from this episode since the next one they're all at sea. 

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TWP

TWP

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Although my sympathy for Castle has severely waned I do feel sorry for the guy reduced to putting a banner up over his wife's desk and throwing some confetti around its hardly intimate, they'll get very little personal time together at her work of all places. There was a picture of them looking at each other in the loft though in one promo and I wonder if that's from this episode since the next one they're all at sea. 

 

It makes me wonder if the person who came up with this shaky idea has ever had a date, let alone a romantic encounter.  This is the kind of thing Sheldon from Big Bang Theory would do, not something a man who understands women (as Castle has shown many times that he does) and who has had true romantic relationships would do -- not even during a breakup.

 

Maybe they are trying to morph this show into Big Bang Theory?  Message, writers, it's neeeever gonna work.

 

Yes, I would like to know where that Castle-Beckett scene they falsely promoed for the Slaughter episode came from.  Has anyone figured it out?

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VinceW

VinceW

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It makes me wonder if the person who came up with this shaky idea has ever had a date, let alone a romantic encounter.  This is the kind of thing Sheldon from Big Bang Theory would do, not something a man who understands women (as Castle has shown many times that he does) and who has had true romantic relationships would do -- not even during a breakup.

 

Maybe they are trying to morph this show into Big Bang Theory?  Message, writers, it's neeeever gonna work.

........................................................

 

Marlowe had a lot of room for criticism, but he mostly acted like a grown-up and he was happily married. In "Nikki Heat", Natalie asked Beckett if Castle was gay given his odd behavior alone with her away from the precinct. Maybe one should ask the same question of the two show runners since a marriage timeout as defined by these producers is nowhere near realistic.  I suppose the frat boy behavior and adolescent humor will continue to be a big part of the show now with Hawley in charge. The show feels like it is being produced by a huge boys club and it is far removed from earlier seasons instead of a rewind of past success. The marriage story seems to be headed so far off track, it makes you wonder what is ahead for the audience in upcoming episodes after the fall hiatus and before the season finale given that die-hard fans will even come back after the extended hiatus.

 

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verdana

verdana

I'm guessing Castle's surprise gets botched but that it happens early-mid episode and they "find a way" to celebrate at the end (including deceptive Caskett smiles from 8x06 promo).

Yeah maybe but no matter how soft and adoring smiles directed Castle's way from Beckett I'm guessing despite Slaughter's advice he won't have the guts to press her about what's going on. However, she's so much in love with him (as the showrunners keep reminding me) that's all that matters, even if she isn't remotely acting like it.

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Cyranetta

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I'm guessing Castle's surprise gets botched but that it happens early-mid episode and they "find a way" to celebrate at the end (including deceptive Caskett smiles from 8x06 promo).

Of course, "find a way" is conspicuously not followed by "together". My guess is that their "celebration" will be equivalent to the current definition of "fun" and that said "celebration" will consist of each one in a separate location morosely staring at his or her reflection in a glass of something (possibly champagne, but that comes too close to "upbeat", so maybe bourbon, neat).

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Julia

Julia

Marlowe had a lot of room for criticism, but he mostly acted like a grown-up and he was happily married.

 

I guess mileage varies. I used to be incredibly creeped out by Marlowe et ux giving cheerful interviews about how an established relationship was intrinsically boring and lacking in adventure and the death knell of fun and nothing anybody would want to watch. And I used to think, if you really do feel that way, what a horribly sad commentary on your marriage.

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BellyLaughter

BellyLaughter

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Of course, "find a way" is conspicuously not followed by "together". My guess is that their "celebration" will be equivalent to the current definition of "fun" and that said "celebration" will consist of each one in a separate location morosely staring at his or her reflection in a glass of something (possibly champagne, but that comes too close to "upbeat", so maybe bourbon, neat).

They could always Skype!! Get a bit of FaceTime action.....hawt!!!

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TWP

TWP

Sometimes I think the media and "spoiler-spec" areas should be merged. 

 

I wonder if they do get together in 8x07.  The bogus Castle-Beckett google eyed scene from the Slaughter promo (heh, a media reference) might come in 8x08. They get together in 8x07 (via Beckett maybe going to the loft to "talk"), but agree not to tell anyone, so they make googley eyes at each other and duck into closets for quickies and such for the rest of the season....yick, but a little more tolerable than the current gloom-fest** they have with each other now.

 

**Yes, gloom-FEST.  Because it's supposed to be FUN, you know.

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verdana

verdana

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I wonder if they do get together in 8x07. The bogus Castle-Beckett google eyed scene from the Slaughter promo (heh, a media reference) might come in 8x08. They get together in 8x07 (via Beckett maybe going to the loft to "talk"), but agree not to tell anyone, so they make googley eyes at each other and duck into closets for quickies and such for the rest of the season....yick, but a little more tolerable than the current gloom-fest** they have with each other now.

Since that never happened in S5 when they were dating and hiding their relationship from Gates etc (Caskett having a quickie in the store cupboard was a fanfic staple) I can't see them doing anything like that now even if they choose to sneakily reunite. Although it would be a step up out of the crap I'm wading through, instead of having secrets and lies hanging between them they'll be misleading their friends and family, not pleasant but nothing is about this separation. Edited by verdana
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Blackrock1

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Since that never happened in S5 when they were dating and hiding their relationship from Gates etc (Caskett having a quickie in the store cupboard was a fanfic staple) I can't see them doing anything like that now even if they choose to sneakily reunite. Although it would be a step up out of the crap I'm wading through, instead of having secrets and lies hanging between them they'll be misleading their friends and family, not pleasant but nothing is about this separation.

My guess is that they shake hands. These writers love call backs. There. Fun!

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TWP

TWP

I'm just trying to solve the "Mystery of the Cool Boys False Promo Googley Eyes". The interaction seems like a step up from the typical. Can't think of any other explanation, although the scene could be from next year.

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westwingfan

westwingfan

I'm just trying to solve the "Mystery of the Cool Boys False Promo Googley Eyes". The interaction seems like a step up from the typical. Can't think of any other explanation, although the scene could be from next year.

They'd only filmed one day of 8x09 when that promo came out on Oct 19 so I don't think it can be from the episodes to air after the winter hiatus. Beckett seems to be in a  light coloured top that doesn't match anything we've seen her wearing in the promo pics for The Last Seduction. I thought it might have been when she's in her office and Castle unveils that anniversary banner, but wrong outfit. Very devious from TPTB, although the dialogue to the promo did say "upcoming episodes" I believe, but I think a lot of people would have been taken in thinking Beckett would appear in Cool Boys.

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TWP

TWP

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I loved this Rob Hanning tweet:

 

 

Robert Hanning @RobHanning

Robert Hanning Retweeted Beckstle

FYI Beckett NOT watching an ad for divorce (misleading promo). What - or whom - is she watching? Find out tonight!

 

Judging by this retweet, they. are. running. scared. In other words, we fans have 'em exactly where we want 'em.  Chuckle.  I wish.

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verdana

verdana

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That does make me curious why they've suddenly had a change of heart, that was my first thought too TPTB have realised if they let Castle have a long break until February with Castle and Beckett still separated the show wouldn't have a hope in hell of recovering.  

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WendyCR72

WendyCR72

Maybe whatever they were going to air in it's place is in even worse shape and they don't trust it to even match Castle's ratings?

 

It could be what was to air sucks, the idea of a long hiatus could have meant certain death, or...ABC is just going status quo and zooming through the episodes and monitor and decide if the show lives or dies by the end of S8.

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TWP

TWP

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Huh

@MichaelAusiello: ABC's Midseason Schedule: Shonda Rhimes' #TheCatch Joins TGIT Lineup, No Hiatus for #Castle https://t.co/gRzxKDVqkUhttps://t.co/hd60lU1GYi

I'm probably way off, but maybe the reconciliation is in the January 4 episode and ABC is trying to slow the hemorrhage?

 

Or it's possible that they changed their mind about whatever they planned to air in January....They saw Wicked City's performance and decided that the new show was going to perform at least as awfully.  Who knows, maybe Wicked City was going to be their Monday night fill-in.

 

I think the fact that they plan to air "The Great Holiday Baking Show" on 3 Castle Mondays in December tells me that they don't get the couple back together until after hiatus. LOL.  They know we're going to be carbo loading because of it, so they figure they might as well do a show to attract us, LOL.

 

We all have our tea leaves, I guess ;-).

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westwingfan

westwingfan

I loved this Rob Hanning tweet:

 

 

Judging by this retweet, they. are. running. scared. In other words, we fans have 'em exactly where we want 'em.  Chuckle.  I wish.

A bit like when Hawley had to quickly come out and admit that the blind item about a co-lead "dying" in a Fall finale didn't refer to Castle, after the first blind item was revealed to be about Caskett.

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S55

S55

Whatever the reason I'm pleased it will be back early in the New Year, I hated the idea of a long hiatus. 

 

I, on the other hand, was actually looking forward to the long hiatus. lol 

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KaveDweller

KaveDweller

Is the Holiday Baking Show a spinoff of the British Baking Show? Ive heard good things about that.

 

Yeah, I think a commercial for it mentions something about coming across the pond.

 

Hanning's going after people on Twitter now. Yikes.

 

Justifiably or not? As much as it's justifiable to go after anyone on Twitter anyway. 

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FlickerToAFlame

FlickerToAFlame

Well, the tweets he's responding to are pretty rude (sadly I've seen way worse), but it feels like something in him snapped:

@RobHanning: Dude. People. Died. This. Weekend. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. https://t.co/Z3AOzmGqGa

@RobHanning: Let me clarify: People were slaughtered => I'm in a bad mood => no patience for people with no life/manners => STFU https://t.co/Rq8RpxCOw0

@RobHanning: I'm through being respectful to assholes and idiots. Earn it. https://t.co/0L00luxI4L

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VinceW

VinceW

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Well, the tweets he's responding to are pretty rude (sadly I've seen way worse), but it feels like something in him snapped:

@RobHanning: Dude. People. Died. This. Weekend. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. https://t.co/Z3AOzmGqGa

@RobHanning: Let me clarify: People were slaughtered => I'm in a bad mood => no patience for people with no life/manners => STFU https://t.co/Rq8RpxCOw0

@RobHanning: I'm through being respectful to assholes and idiots. Earn it. https://t.co/0L00luxI4L

I believe that user @Engine_Ear2015 who is part of that group tweeting with Hanning is the person that posted the information a few weeks ago that SK had leased an apartment in Paris and she was leaving the show after 8x07. The comments from that account are mostly hateful and filled with rumors.

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BellyLaughter

BellyLaughter

I believe that user @Engine_Ear2015 who is part of that group tweeting with Hanning is the person that posted the information a few weeks ago that SK had leased an apartment in Paris and she was leaving the show after 8x07. The comments from that account are mostly hateful and filled with rumors.

Yeah, looks like that account was created only recently for a specific purpose!

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TWP

TWP

I believe that user @Engine_Ear2015 who is part of that group tweeting with Hanning is the person that posted the information a few weeks ago that SK had leased an apartment in Paris and she was leaving the show after 8x07. The comments from that account are mostly hateful and filled with rumors.

 

I get a little tired of Engine_ear too (they post all over the place), but I also agree with those over there who said that Hanning playing the Paris Terrorism card to make him/her go away was beyyyyyond the pale.  Really, no matter how stressed you are about the ratings, Mr. Hanning, that's seriously out of hand. Don't engage. Instead use the block button next time.

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Julia

Julia

I get a little tired of Engine_ear too (they post all over the place), but I also agree with those over there who said that Hanning playing the Paris Terrorism card to make him/her go away was beyyyyyond the pale.  Really, no matter how stressed you are about the ratings, Mr. Hanning, that's seriously out of hand. Don't engage. Instead use the block button next time.

+1. People died, buddy. That ought to be a big enough deal to give you perspective on random twitter troll accounts you don't have to read.

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WendyCR72

WendyCR72

I'll be unpopular: People want to dish it out? Great. Professional or not, don't be shocked when it is thrown back at you. Yes, there is the block function. But maybe, just maybe, people should learn some common decency instead of acting like obnoxious douches because of being anonymous.

 

The ideal option would be to ignore, but hey. They want attention, they got it.

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