S5.E18: Reunion Part 2

[RealHousewife]

6 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Heather is dying to have Jenn Shah back. 

I sure hope not. She's the Housewife I hate the most, and I've watched a lot of Housewives. It's a special kind of sicko to take advantage of elderly people. 

[ZettaK]

8 hours ago, dmeets said:

I still can't get over her "exoneration" being the word of Monica, who had said the opposite in an earlier scene, and who the trio had just got done shrieking was a liar.

Lisa's the most disappointing of the trio, since she was the one who was warned by Meredith that she's heard about "the reeuuumers, the nahhhstiness" and that if Angie wants to go there with the huzzzzbind, Meredith can go there.

I have no idea why Bravo wanted to appease screeching Meredith who was not shown too much, or contributed to the season (that's why she was sitting away from Andy Cohen). Maybe because she almost had a (real) fit? 

As for Lisa, she initially said years ago that she never heard of any rumors about Shawn. 

The OGs seem to be threatened by newcomer Bronwyn, that's why the attacks (not that Bronwyn is an innocent bystander).

On 2/1/2025 at 7:13 PM, Sweet-tea said:

This is what I find concerning about Angie and Mary’s friendship. In a healthy relationship, a person can be friends with more than one person. Angie wouldn’t be threatened or concerned about Mary’s friendship with Meredith, and Mary wouldn’t care about Angie’s other friends. But what I’m seeing being set up is this weird dynamic that Angie has to be ride or die for Mary, and she is disloyal if she has other friends that Mary doesn’t like or might be upset with. Meanwhile, Angie may be jealous of attention Mary pays to other women friends. 

I’ve been down this road in my life, and I can tell you it is painful, pointless and  traumatic. 

Mary wants followers, not friends, so this is not a friendship of equals. 

Edited February 5 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

We also don't know if Todd cheated, or not, but it seems like he did. And not only once. He had to give Bronwyn a new ring a few years ago, well into the marriage, and make five promises- all of those are supposed to be made when a person gets married, not down the road.

[ZettaK]

Update on Meredith's Park City store.

I went on Sunday. It was supposed to open at 12pm, but opened around 12:20pm. It was snowing lightly. It's of decent size. The jewelry is not anything I never saw before. There is clothing (even swimsuits), her handbags, cosmetics, etc. There was one employee, a nice, younger female. She told me the store is carrying Phaedra Parks' faux fur collection for a couple of weeks. Phaedra is on Bravo's Married to Medicine and The RH of Atlanta. If one wants to buy Meredith's caviar, it is packed with ice to last for up to 8 hours for those who will be traveling.

Edited February 5 by ZettaK

[princelina]

On 2/4/2025 at 8:57 PM, RealHousewife said:

I sure hope not. She's the Housewife I hate the most, and I've watched a lot of Housewives. It's a special kind of sicko to take advantage of elderly people. 

Mary Cosby does it, and according to this reunion she's a lovely woman with a big heart, beloved by all, who has never used anyone in her life! 🤢

[ZettaK]

54 minutes ago, princelina said:

Mary Cosby does it, and according to this reunion she's a lovely woman with a big heart, beloved by all, who has never used anyone in her life! 🤢

That's Andy Cohen's revisionistic version. 

[princelina]

1 minute ago, ZettaK said:

That's Andy Cohen's revisionistic version. 

All I'm saying is if she can be here so can Jen.  She's gotten wealthier being just as dirty or dirtier.

[b2H]

On 2/4/2025 at 8:57 PM, RealHousewife said:

I sure hope not. She's the Housewife I hate the most, and I've watched a lot of Housewives. It's a special kind of sicko to take advantage of elderly people. 

New Jersey brought back a convicted felon after her prison term was ended.  They didn’t even blink when she walked in.  Jenn will be welcomed back for a redemption tour that will last about 15 minutes before she goes back to her old ways.  Heather will see to it.

[Pi237]

Am I crazy or did Heather look jealous when Meredith said Jen called her? 

[ZettaK]

9 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Am I crazy or did Heather look jealous when Meredith said Jen called her? 

I missed it, but it seems plausible.

[Sweet-tea]

On 2/5/2025 at 10:42 PM, princelina said:

Mary Cosby does it, and according to this reunion she's a lovely woman with a big heart, beloved by all, who has never used anyone in her life! 🤢

I can't figure out why she got off so easily on the reunion. Andy has given her a pass for everything. Is it because of Robert Jr? They've made her look like a saint in how she dealt with him. Are they afraid to criticize her now? There is just something about her that is mean to me. It comes out in various ways, including when she is "funny". It is often biting, nasty funny.

I wouldn't want to be friends with her. I'd feel like I was walking on eggshells, waiting for her to get angry and lash out. Good luck, Angie. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 2/4/2025 at 11:54 AM, ZettaK said:

Heather is dying to have Jenn Shah back. 

Do you think she is masochistic?  I'm wondering because Jenn treated her like crap.  Well, Jenn treated everyone like crap, but Heather put up with it.

[Pi237]

1 hour ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Do you think she is masochistic?  I'm wondering because Jenn treated her like crap.  Well, Jenn treated everyone like crap, but Heather put up with it.

Yes, I think she is. Heather was oddly proud of being Jen’s ‘ride or die’ no matter how bad Jen treated her. It was like seeing an abused woman constantly adore & love on her abusive husband. So uncomfortable to watch.

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[RealHousewife]

On 2/8/2025 at 7:21 AM, Sweet-tea said:

I can't figure out why she got off so easily on the reunion. Andy has given her a pass for everything. Is it because of Robert Jr? They've made her look like a saint in how she dealt with him. Are they afraid to criticize her now? There is just something about her that is mean to me. It comes out in various ways, including when she is "funny". It is often biting, nasty funny.

I wouldn't want to be friends with her. I'd feel like I was walking on eggshells, waiting for her to get angry and lash out. Good luck, Angie. 

I've wondered that too. My heart does go out to Mary when it comes to Robert Jr, and yes Mary can be amusing. But no, neither absolves her of grifting or her plain meanness. 

3 hours ago, Pi237 said:

Yes, I think she is. Heather was oddly proud of being Jen’s ‘ride or die’ no matter how bad Jen treated her. It was like seeing an abused woman constantly adore & love on her abusive husband. So uncomfortable to watch.

It's bizarre. Jen's the one person worse than Mary on this show. There is no reason to be ride or die for that woman. 

Heather and Jen didn't have a long history of friendship, did they? I was under the impression they only had a friendship due to the show, but perhaps I'm wrong. One thing I can struggle with is coming to terms with the fact I misjudged someone I once considered a friend, and I am loyal to a fault. You think of all the good memories, sharing special times together, and it can be hard to accept all of that was with this monster. Maybe Heather is similar. 

[Natalie68]

On 2/6/2025 at 11:14 AM, b2H said:

New Jersey brought back a convicted felon after her prison term was ended.  They didn’t even blink when she walked in.  Jenn will be welcomed back for a redemption tour that will last about 15 minutes before she goes back to her old ways.  Heather will see to it.

Bringing the felon back was what pushed me to give up NJ.  If they bring back Shaw, I will give it up.  It is gross to reward  criminal  behavior.

[RealHousewife]

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Bringing the felon back was what pushed me to give up NJ.  If they bring back Shaw, I will give it up.  It is gross to reward  criminal  behavior.

I hear you. I think for me, I'm not sure Tre was the brains behind that operation. Jen on the other hand was 100% knowledgeable about everything she was doing scamming elderly people. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

On 2/11/2025 at 4:45 PM, RealHousewife said:

 

Heather and Jen didn't have a long history of friendship, did they? I was under the impression they only had a friendship due to the show, but perhaps I'm wrong. One thing I can struggle with is coming to terms with the fact I misjudged someone I once considered a friend, and I am loyal to a fault. You think of all the good memories, sharing special times together, and it can be hard to accept all of that was with this monster. Maybe Heather is similar. 

I somehow had the impression that Jen was a customer at Heather's beauty lab.   I don't know how long they knew each other prior to the show.  

Heather seems to have a history of choosing someone problematic to buddy up with, and doing everything she can to be in their good graces.  It took years for Lisa B to acknowledge Heather and now they are best buds.

[Stats Queen]

On 2/12/2025 at 6:41 PM, RealHousewife said:

I hear you. I think for me, I'm not sure Tre was the brains behind that operation. Jen on the other hand was 100% knowledgeable about everything she was doing scamming elderly people. 

Tre was definitely not the brains behind anything. However, even after her release  she took zero accountability.

[ZettaK]

On 2/12/2025 at 3:21 PM, Natalie68 said:

Bringing the felon back was what pushed me to give up NJ.  If they bring back Shaw, I will give it up.  It is gross to reward  criminal  behavior.

Don't forget Erika Jayne from Beverly Hills.

On 2/12/2025 at 6:41 PM, RealHousewife said:

I hear you. I think for me, I'm not sure Tre was the brains behind that operation. Jen on the other hand was 100% knowledgeable about everything she was doing scamming elderly people. 

Teresa was most probably not the brains behind the operation (although she cosigned documents, that's why she was convicted), but she pushed enough her husband to generate income he could not earn himself. 

Edited February 14 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

14 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I somehow had the impression that Jen was a customer at Heather's beauty lab.   I don't know how long they knew each other prior to the show.  

Heather seems to have a history of choosing someone problematic to buddy up with, and doing everything she can to be in their good graces.  It took years for Lisa B to acknowledge Heather and now they are best buds.

Lisa pretended she didn't remember Heather from college, but at the same time she called Heather "a good time girl" in college! The insanity! And now Heather is her ally. 

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[ZettaK]

16 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I somehow had the impression that Jen was a customer at Heather's beauty lab.   I don't know how long they knew each other prior to the show.  

Yes, Jen Shah was a customer at Heather's Beauty Lab + Laser just before filming for S1 started. So, they didn’t know each other before. 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rhoslc-heather-gay-recalls-she-180355311.html

[princelina]

19 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Don't forget Erika Jayne from Beverly Hills.

Or Mary from this show!

[RealHousewife]

20 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

Tre was definitely not the brains behind anything. However, even after her release  she took zero accountability.

True. I am kind of a softie and feel bad America is the only country Juicy knows and that he got deported and separated from his kids. But like Tre, he was also very dismissive of what he did. 

19 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Don't forget Erika Jayne from Beverly Hills.

Teresa was most probably not the brains behind the operation (although she cosigned documents, that's why she was convicted), but she pushed enough her husband to generate income he could not earn himself. 

True. As much as it can be tricky to tell just how much these women are aware of their husbands' crimes, do men like Juicy Joe, Tom Girardi or Paul Kemsley want to live crazy lavishly themselves? Or do they scheme and grift to keep the women in their lives happy with their ridiculous expectations?

5 minutes ago, princelina said:

Or Mary from this show!

I am curious if we're ever going to find out more about Mary and her church. 

[princelina]

5 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I am curious if we're ever going to find out more about Mary and her church. 

Maybe - apparently it's not defunct, and was just closed for "renovations".  But we already know she's full of crap and scams old people out of their money.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/mary-cosby-gives-an-update-on-her-church-in-unseen-reunion-moment/ar-AA1y7gLK

[ZettaK]

8 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

True. I am kind of a softie and feel bad America is the only country Juicy knows and that he got deported and separated from his kids. But like Tre, he was also very dismissive of what he did. 

True. As much as it can be tricky to tell just how much these women are aware of their husbands' crimes, do men like Juicy Joe, Tom Girardi or Paul Kemsley want to live crazy lavishly themselves? Or do they scheme and grift to keep the women in their lives happy with their ridiculous expectations?

I am curious if we're ever going to find out more about Mary and her church. 

I think Tom and PK wanted to live a lavish lifestyle far more than Joe Giudice who wanted to drink his wine with his friends like those said (even on the show).