S15.E15: Paradise Lost

[ZettaK]

As the Puerto Rico trip comes to an end, things go from bad to worse as the Brynn and Ubah feud escalates to the point of no return; a shocking claim leaves everyone speechless and shaken.

First aired on 1/21/2025.

[Mindthinkr]

Let’s see if this episode is worth the hype. 

[Steph J]

"Ubah can apologize and Brynn can receive it, then maybe's there's a chance we can have fun together - which is what we do best."

... Did... did I miss the episode where they have fun together?

[Pi237]

Although, I feel like Brynn is weaponizing her trauma in this fight...Its very Ubah to scream and yell and get mad at everyone instead of jus being concerned and talking to Brynn like a normal person, with compassion.

[snarts]

Ubah's often irrational & extremely volatile but I believe that she was unaware of Brynn's assault. 

Brynn's lied/embellished too many times & I 100% believe she said Ubah knew just to get support from the other ladies. 

[Pi237]

Uh Oh, Hold on!!!  "Ubah maybe didn't clock it?!" Damn. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Pi237

[bosawks]

Well, even for BRAVO, this is fucked up.

[Pi237]

Ew. That Jenna update was uncalled for. Stay classy, Bravo! 🤣

[njbchlover]

21 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Ew. That Jenna update was uncalled for. Stay classy, Bravo! 🤣

Seriously?  Two things that can never be said in one sentence!  🤣

[Baltimore Betty]

I was a little confused about them shooting the apple holding/opening photos, I thought they were getting ready for the reunion but nope, it was the opening photos.

Ubah is so loud and screams at everyone it was hard for me to keep track of what was going on, it took me a while to understand who was supporting who, who was wrong or lying.

[njbchlover]

50 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Well, even for BRAVO, this is fucked up.

Most of us have been saying how boring and how bad this new group of women are, but they certainly were NOT boring tonight.

Sadly, imo, this was really not enjoyable at all to watch.  Brynn needs some intense therapy, as she's obviously not dealing well with her past - everything in her childhood, not just this assault.

Is it wrong of me to think that Brynn is weaponizing what happened to her and using it to garner sympathy?

I just can't understand how someone who has been sexually assaulted would continue to use sexual innuendo and constantly coming on to men (and women) in the way Brynn does.  I guess there's some deep psychological reason that I don't know, but I just feel like that is the case with Brynn.

Edited 2 hours ago by njbchlover

[Baltimore Betty]

Just now, njbchlover said:

Is it wrong of me to think that Brynn is weaponizing what happened to her?

Nope!

I think she is manipulative, probably learned when she was young, learned to lie for attention, got the attention then manipulated people...she needs help.

The one think I rolled my eyes was Brynn yelled her kids will see this someday, what about all the stuff she did that was embarrassing all by herself.

[njbchlover]

2 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Nope!

I think she is manipulative, probably learned when she was young, learned to lie for attention, got the attention then manipulated people...she needs help.

The one think I rolled my eyes was Brynn yelled her kids will see this someday, what about all the stuff she did that was embarrassing all by herself.

I just edited and added more to my comment....hope you're still in agreement!  😊

[njbchlover]

13 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Nope!

I think she is manipulative, probably learned when she was young, learned to lie for attention, got the attention then manipulated people...she needs help.

The one think I rolled my eyes was Brynn yelled her kids will see this someday, what about all the stuff she did that was embarrassing all by herself.

I don't think I would feel this way about Brynn weaponizing her assault if she didn't seem so laissez-faire about things in the morning when talking to the producers.  She seemed well rested and not troubled at all by all that had happened.  Everyone else seemed shell-shocked but Brynn was all about going horseback riding and moving on with the day.

Maybe it's a coping mechanism, but I just don't trust anything with Brynn.

[QQQQ]

Hypersexuality as a trauma response

[njbchlover]

1 minute ago, QQQQ said:

Hypersexuality as a trauma response

Thank you - very informative.

I hope that if this is the case with Brynn, that she is getting the proper therapy she obviously needs.

[Marley]

Ubah & Bryn both need to be gone after this season. I think it would get better without them. I can't stand Ubah & her constant screaming.

Bryn needs to get help too. It's horrible what happened to her obviously but she is clearly a pathological liar.

These ladies need to do this stuff on camera all out on the open not this retelling bs. This behind the scenes bs we never see is killing the show.