chitowngirl December 17 Share December 17 Paul encourages Jimmy to seek help. Brian and Derek take Sean to look for a new place. Gaby struggles with her guest list for Thanksgiving. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/
SoMuchTV December 18 Share December 18 Lol, re: thanksgiving. “Brits don’t need a special day to celebrate stealing land from other people. To us, that’s every day.” Very efficient way to call out two cultures in one blow. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8535429
aghst December 18 Share December 18 Wow it's a long season. I still don't recall a story arc that's particularly memorable. These characters are all so overbearing. Wish it was limited to Liz but now Alice is making demands. And they keep adding more side characters, didn't recognize the woman with the dog. Then they go back to the patient who pushed her husband off the cliff instead of leaving him. Paul is trying to help both. But Paul still has his own problems. I know that therapists still get therapy themselves, for instance Melfi on The Sopranos. Still Paul seems pretty messed up to be trying to counsel to her people. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8535827
Blakeston December 18 Share December 18 2 hours ago, aghst said: But Paul still has his own problems. I know that therapists still get therapy themselves, for instance Melfi on The Sopranos. Still Paul seems pretty messed up to be trying to counsel to her people. You mean Jimmy, right? I'd say Paul is very well-adjusted by the standards of therapists! Jimmy had a rough breakdown here, which wouldn't have happened if his daughter hadn't behaved like an entitled, insufferable brat. I get that teenagers are often bratty, but I really hope Alice gets called out on how completely out-of-line she was to try to guilt her father into giving therapy to the man who killed his wife. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8535932
aghst December 18 Share December 18 Yeah Jimmy. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8535933
Good Queen Jane December 18 Share December 18 Jimmy didn’t break down because of Alice. Jimmy broke down because he never really dealt with the death of his wife. He covered it up with women and alcohol at first and then by “jimmying” his patients. But, as Paul said, that wouldn’t be enough until Jimmy finally admitted he wasn’t okay. The final scene brought me to tears. I never thought I would say that about Jason Segel. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8535992
AheadofStraight December 19 Share December 19 Poor Jimmy. I do not get how everyone has been ok with Louis. We know he's actually a very nice guy but if someone killed my spouse, I would not want my daughter hanging out with them and certainly wouldn't treat them. Wouldn't there be ethics issues around that anyway (not that this show isn't loosely goosey already)? I also didn't buy Sean with the doctor for even one second. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8536176
aghst December 19 Share December 19 2 minutes ago, AheadofStraight said: Poor Jimmy. I do not get how everyone has been ok with Louis. We know he's actually a very nice guy but if someone killed my spouse, I would not want my daughter hanging out with them and certainly wouldn't treat them. Wouldn't there be ethics issues around that anyway (not that this show isn't loosely goosey already)? I also didn't buy Sean with the doctor for even one second. They should call this show Incestuous or Who Needs Boundaries? Sure people have mutual acquaintances or friends but they take it to the next level, every character has several ties to each other through relationships which most people would keep at arm's length. Sean went with Paul to Paul's doctor and now he's dating her or maybe it's a booty call thing with him willing to close his food truck immediately whenever she becomes available. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8536196
juno December 19 Share December 19 This is really Harrison Ford's season. He has become the star of the show. I really noticed they adjusted his completely grumpy character in season 1 to show more depth and fit in more with the characters around him. Paul also seems to be the only support system for Jimmy as well. All the other characters seem to help and support each other and yet they have nothing but derision and apathy towards Jimmy. I am hoping that there is a bit of an adjustment of the characters towards Jimmy. This show has gone off the rails regarding Louis and Alice and the baffling amount that he has been welcomed into the gang, while Jimmy is melting down and the only one there for him is Paul. 2 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8536504
Dminches December 19 Share December 19 Jimmy’s storyline is heartbreaking but also very realistic. He will always be processing his wife’s early death and his recovery is compounded by Alice’s lack of understanding of how difficult it is for him. However, Alice is acting like most teenagers in this regard; she can’t only see things from her perspective. For her to suggest to Jimmy that he try to help Louis shows her blindness. The final scene was very emotional. For Jimmy to realize he was falling apart was really telling. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8536847
Blakeston Friday at 10:33 PM Share Friday at 10:33 PM I remember when Brian seemed like an actual human being, and not just a hodge-podge of over-the-top neuroses. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/151129-s02e11-the-drugs-don%E2%80%99t-work/#findComment-8537692
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