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S01.E08: The Lovesick Widow


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I truly love this show. It gets one thinking. I’m not a medical person but have/had enough medical bs (yeah, my technical term) in my life that I appreciate so many things shown on Brilliant Minds.   I’ve finally watched Roman/John Doe’s story and am trying to formulate the many emotions going through me still. 
 

Regarding June and her journey I am mixed. I love that she is living her life and enjoying it fully at her age but personally my sappy side says ‘my sons come first’.  Is that right or wrong?  I don’t know.  If grandchildren are involved, I’d live to hug and love them and teach them whatever I could and then hug them some more.  
 

I can’t imagine that that wouldn’t fulfill me.  
 

So again, right or wrong?  I don’t know.   
 

What am I missing?  Not thinking of?  I’d love to read what everyone thinks. 
 

Oh — love that it was Van and not Jacob.   Not sure what I think about doctor’s ex-husband’s ‘girl’ situation but I’m sure there is more to come on both storylines.  

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I saw Susan Bay Nimoy in the opening credits and wondering if she was Leonard Nimoy's widow. I don't know how everyone else feels, but I don't think she's a very good actress.

However, I found her story interesting. I think it was a good decision to allow her her sexuality and "twinkle" rather than subdue her into a typical, traditional grandmother. I didn't catch everything Oliver said, but I think she would be on medication that wouldn't stifle her sexual drive, but would in some way control it? Maybe someone else can clarify this.

I don't get what's going on with the psychiatrist and her patient. If I were the doctor, I would have insisted that I couldn't treat her any more. I would probably even be upfront with her and say that I knew she had had an affair with my husband. 

As for ... (checking characters' names) ... Ericka and her choice of Van, I'm confused. She was always looking at Jacob and seemed infatuated with him. What happened?

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On 11/19/2024 at 12:46 PM, Ellee said:

Regarding June and her journey I am mixed. I love that she is living her life and enjoying it fully at her age but personally my sappy side says ‘my sons come first’.  Is that right or wrong?  I don’t know.  If grandchildren are involved, I’d live to hug and love them and teach them whatever I could and then hug them some more.  

I don't see why she can't hug, teach, and love her grandchildren and also explore her sexuality. She can't be around her sons and grandchildren 24/7.

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As for ... (checking characters' names) ... Ericka and her choice of Van, I'm confused. She was always looking at Jacob and seemed infatuated with him. What happened?

I felt like she was using him a little bit and it is not going to end well. He seems to have stronger feelings than she does.

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On 11/20/2024 at 7:12 PM, Ellee said:

@KaveDweller  That is so true.  I was under the impression that June was behaving uncontrollably for the most part.  Maybe I misunderstood. It could have been that the sons were getting reports of her behavior and not witnessing her behavior. 

My take was that the retirement place she lived had rules she was breaking, but not that she was doing anything that crazy. Her sons just seemed horrified hearing about their mom having sex.

But I could have missed some parts at the beginning.

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They really didn't tell us enough to know whether her behavior was actually compulsive, or just enthusiastic and liberated. She seemed to me to be fine, but they really leaned hard into the sons being condemnatory, rather than showing the point of view of any of patient's partners.

If she was in flagrante with other residents, perhaps they were consenting, which as far as I'm concerned means it's not a problem. If they had said she was harassing people, that would be different. But at least two men showed up to embrace her. So I think it was just prudery on the part of the sons and social control on the part of the place they had been housing her.

 

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I liked that the "misunderstanding" between Wolf and Dr. big hands was short lived. A lesser show would have dragged that out for half a season.

That scene between Wolf and his mother and the flashbacks were heart wrenching. I dind't have the same experiences, but having been a gay kid in the 90s I still feel a certain connection to this storyline.

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On 11/17/2024 at 1:58 PM, peeayebee said:

Were you able to watch the actual "The Man from Grozny"?

I’m in Canada, too, and my provider labeled this episode as “The Man From Grozny,” as well as repeating this episode (under its proper title) the following week. Needless to say, it definitely felt like I had missed something as I watched this episode. (I’ve since discovered that the actual “Man From Grozny” episode is still available on demand. 

Speaking of missing something, no boundaries and poor communication skills? Dr. Landon is a mess! This character is becoming less believable with every episode.

And I don’t understand why Pierce didn’t just say “It’s inappropriate for me to continue treating you”? The patient, Alison, is clearly manipulative, absolutely knows who Pierce is, and her veiled threat to harm herself, even if it’s genuine, could have been countered. This seems like a situation that actually should involve Dr. Landon as Chief of Medicine, as opposed to, say, her son’s love life!

I’ll admit it was a cute bit having Susan Bay Nimoy say that Oliver reminded her of a young version of her late husband, but I begin to think the show’s writing is just a little too much in love with its own cleverness. 

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On 11/19/2024 at 9:08 PM, peeayebee said:

However, I found her story interesting. I think it was a good decision to allow her her sexuality and "twinkle" rather than subdue her into a typical, traditional grandmother. I didn't catch everything Oliver said, but I think she would be on medication that wouldn't stifle her sexual drive, but would in some way control it? Maybe someone else can clarify this.

The medication was to help with a low sex drive. However, I think most of those medications are for pre-menopausal women (from what I have heard from women in the young adult cancer community who are in chemo induced menopause, those medications can not be used once you hit menopause)

In Menopause Manifesto (book about menopause written by a gynecologist). there is a chapter on post-menopausal sex and she does say that most of the time the solutions are not pharmaceutical. However, there are some situations where there are some meds that are useful. 

We never really found out what the exact medical issues were for the patient of the week, so it's hard to say what would or wouldn't fix it. Was she depressed before? Was she having pain? Was she having problems with blood flow? There are lots of different possibilities. I think the network probably didn't want to get too explicit. 

13 hours ago, possibilities said:

In Menopause Manifesto (book about menopause written by a gynecologist). there is a chapter on post-menopausal sex and she does say that most of the time the solutions are not pharmaceutical. However, there are some situations where there are some meds that are useful. 

We never really found out what the exact medical issues were for the patient of the week, so it's hard to say what would or wouldn't fix it. Was she depressed before? Was she having pain? Was she having problems with blood flow? There are lots of different possibilities. I think the network probably didn't want to get too explicit. 

Yeah they skipped over a lot of it and just went "neurosyphilis"

I was half expecting them to bring up the Tuskegee Study when they mentioned the neurosyphilis

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