RealHousewife November 25 Share November 25 1 hour ago, ww92 said: This is the same Kyle who made fun of Kathy for not knowing how to plug in a fan. I forgot about that! I think since Kyle wasn't living the lifestyle of a crazy rich person as long as Kathy, for awhile she was more one of us. She knew how much milk cost at the market for example, but she relates more to Kathy now. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8517638
hottesthw November 27 Share November 27 On 11/25/2024 at 10:22 AM, SweetieDarling said: Kyle is very good at playing the 1970s stereotype of the clueless wealthy housewife: She has no idea how to do anything- she has people for that- she throws her head back in laughter, always drives a different expensive car, and flits around town shopping in her designer labels. The only thing missing is the martini or wine glass, but since Kyle doesn't drink anymore, it would be replaced with an edible. What’s even more odd to me is watching past episodes, Kyle knocked Mo for not knowing how to do anything and she was the one to either do things or call their handyman to do whatever they needed. I guess she forgets she’s had cameras following her around for years. 2 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518750
Keywestclubkid November 27 Share November 27 Dorit is ACTIVATED.. lol I kinda live for it 2 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518776
Keywestclubkid November 27 Share November 27 Why do these woman NOT trust Sutton with this divorce stuff .. the woman literally knows what the hell she is talking about .. listen to her Jesus 4 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518786
RealHousewife November 27 Share November 27 10 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said: Dorit is ACTIVATED.. lol I kinda live for it I was wondering if any of you were watching, no thread for this ep, is there? I have stuff to say but don't want to spoil! 1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said: Why do these woman NOT trust Sutton with this divorce stuff .. the woman literally knows what the hell she is talking about .. listen to her Jesus I would definitely take her advice with divorce over anyone else's. She did good! 7 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518788
RealHousewife November 27 Share November 27 50 minutes ago, hottesthw said: What’s even more odd to me is watching past episodes, Kyle knocked Mo for not knowing how to do anything and she was the one to either do things or call their handyman to do whatever they needed. I guess she forgets she’s had cameras following her around for years. I remember that too. I think Kyle took on the traditionally female stuff (cooking, cleaning, laundry), and Mauricio took care of the traditionally male stuff. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518824
ZettaK November 27 Share November 27 (edited) On 11/25/2024 at 9:55 AM, Mr. Miner said: Or use the TV remote or adjust the thermostat. What did Kyle do when her husband was in one of his many trips all over the US, and the world (before he moved out)? Edited November 27 by ZettaK 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518845
RealHousewife November 27 Share November 27 Just now, ZettaK said: What did Kyle do when her husband was in one of his many travels all over the US, and the world (before he moved out)? I wondered that with things like the TV. Did she not watch TV by herself? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8518848
nicole21290 November 27 Share November 27 2 hours ago, RealHousewife said: I wondered that with things like the TV. Did she not watch TV by herself? She's actually talked a lot in the past about not really watching much TV so probably wasn't an issue, tbh. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8519026
dmeets November 27 Share November 27 I noticed in the rerun of this episode before the new one, that all of Garcelle’s scenes were cut showing her career thriving. The only time we saw her at all prior to Sutton’s party was her comment to Oliver about how even Dorit’s separation announcement was long-winded. Yet the bro lunch between PK and Mau, which never should have been aired to begin with since no HWs were present, was left in its entirety. Probably doesn’t bode well for how this season’s going to go. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8519027
Avaleigh November 27 Share November 27 On 11/20/2024 at 12:50 PM, RealHousewife said: I've noticed a pattern with Kyle not seeing the other women as close of friends as they see her. Vanderpump always seemed more invested in the friendship until Lisa prays on the weak and all that. She seemed to adore Kyle that first season and referred to her as her "best friend." I do believe their friendship was played up for the show but that Lisa did consider her a bestie. Kyle once yelled at Erika something like "do you not have good friends?" when the women were discussing her close friendship with Teddi. Erika responded that she did and that she considered Kyle one of them. Sutton said something about Kyle not losing another sister by losing her as a friend. Kyle responded with "don't flatter yourself." Ouch. Regarding Dorit, Kyle said their families have only been on one trip together. I'm sorry, but while that doesn't necessarily make for best friends, for most people it does still take a friendship of sorts to go on even a single trip together. I wouldn't do that with just anyone. I get that it could be annoying when you feel like it's disingenuous of someone to portray you as their best friend when you're not or act like you're as close as sisters when you're not. (I feel a bit awkward when I know someone doesn't like me that much but refers to me as a sister or says they love me.) But this pattern of women thinking they're actually good friends with Kyle and Kyle being like nope, it's not pretty. It seems like unless you're her lifelong friend, you don't mean much to her. Interesting analysis on Kyle in terms of her friendships with the other ladies. Her friendship with Teddi seems genuine, but I also think it's because Teddi happened to be the right friend for her in this stage of her life and that's why she didn't drop her once Teddi was fired from the show. Teddi makes her feel younger, she's the friend who was most supportive of Kyle when she decided she wanted to have a sober lifestyle. Other women that she was friendly with while they were on the show, she mostly dropped once they were no longer on the show. Obviously people like LVP and the lady who was into witch stuff (can't remember her name) weren't interested in maintaining a relationship, but other women who seemed to have a friendship with her didn't really stay in the picture the way that Teddi did. Adrienne, Yolanda, Rinna, Eileen, Marisa, etc. Even Joyce, it seemed like they were genuine friends even after her time on the show finished, but it doesn't seem to have lasted unless I missed the memo there. Entirely possible, I don't follow the Housewives as much as I used to. Honestly though, Kyle can't even maintain functioning relationships with her sisters for long, I guess it shouldn't be that surprising that she struggles with maintaining genuine friendships with the ladies on this show. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8519475
ZettaK November 28 Share November 28 7 hours ago, Avaleigh said: Interesting analysis on Kyle in terms of her friendships with the other ladies. Her friendship with Teddi seems genuine, but I also think it's because Teddi happened to be the right friend for her in this stage of her life and that's why she didn't drop her once Teddi was fired from the show. Teddi makes her feel younger, she's the friend who was most supportive of Kyle when she decided she wanted to have a sober lifestyle. Other women that she was friendly with while they were on the show, she mostly dropped once they were no longer on the show. Obviously people like LVP and the lady who was into witch stuff (can't remember her name) weren't interested in maintaining a relationship, but other women who seemed to have a friendship with her didn't really stay in the picture the way that Teddi did. Adrienne, Yolanda, Rinna, Eileen, Marisa, etc. Even Joyce, it seemed like they were genuine friends even after her time on the show finished, but it doesn't seem to have lasted unless I missed the memo there. Entirely possible, I don't follow the Housewives as much as I used to. Honestly though, Kyle can't even maintain functioning relationships with her sisters for long, I guess it shouldn't be that surprising that she struggles with maintaining genuine friendships with the ladies on this show. These women were not friends in real life before the show. A HW might become friends with one, or two at most of those, like Sutton and Garcelle, and Emily and Gina from the OC HWs, but it's not common. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8519940
hoodooznoodooz November 28 Share November 28 I just rewatched the Morgan Wade music video with Kyle. It’s even worse than I had remembered. Kyle is a terrible actress. Morgan’s acting is better and more nuanced. Thank you, Garcelle, for reminding Kyle that she’s full of caca. 3 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8520266
ZettaK November 29 Share November 29 8 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said: I just rewatched the Morgan Wade music video with Kyle. It’s even worse than I had remembered. Kyle is a terrible actress. Morgan’s acting is better and more nuanced. Thank you, Garcelle, for reminding Kyle that she’s full of caca. Do I have to watch it now? I don't really want to. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8520483
hoodooznoodooz November 29 Share November 29 1 hour ago, ZettaK said: Do I have to watch it now? I don't really want to. No! Don’t watch it! It’s terrible! Many, many shots of Kyle just mooning over Morgan! And I don’t know who wrote the script, but it was something an 8-year-old could have written. 2 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8520523
lemoncake November 30 Share November 30 On 11/21/2024 at 9:17 AM, AnnMarie17 said: My take on the Kyle/Morgan relationship hinges on the fact (is my opinion a "fact"...yes, yes it is) that Kyle is so emotionally stunted. Kyle has always presented herself with all of the maturity and emotional depth of a middle school girls locker room; she's blatantly attention seeking, but then awkward as hell once she's the center of attention, making messes everywhere she goes, and then regrets/can't explain her actions so the vocal fry and tears hit full effect as she's "done" for the zillionth time - lather, rinse, repeat. I remember being a middle school girl and becoming infatuated with different people...dressing like them, talking like them, liking the things they liked, liking the people they liked...wanting to be just like them. But then I grew up and realized I'm the bees fuckin' knees and I want to be ME. Kyle hasn't ever grown up and this whole Morgan situation was an infatuation that at 50-whatver years old Kyle STILL doesn't understand. Absolutely. The Richards girls never had normal childhoods, so they never learned how to go from middle school mean girl to almost human high schooler to actual human adult. Guessing they never developed friendships organically, as everything revolved around show business. Then the second the girls reached adulthood, Big Kathy made sure to marry them off to rich men and create spawn immediately, so there would always be a meal ticket. The fact that Kyle married Mo at 23 and it was her second marriage was crazy. 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8521369
ZettaK December 1 Share December 1 9 hours ago, lemoncake said: Absolutely. The Richards girls never had normal childhoods, so they never learned how to go from middle school mean girl to almost human high schooler to actual human adult. Guessing they never developed friendships organically, as everything revolved around show business. Then the second the girls reached adulthood, Big Kathy made sure to marry them off to rich men and create spawn immediately, so there would always be a meal ticket. The fact that Kyle married Mo at 23 and it was her second marriage was crazy. All three first married when they were teenagers, more, or less. Kim was considered to be the most "successful" because her first marriage was to a millionaire (Monty Bryson, the guy we saw on the show living with her when he had cancer before he passed), and the billionaire oil heir Gregg Davis. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8521594
RealHousewife December 1 Share December 1 I think that's part of why Kyle may be struggling. It's not unusual for parents to want their daughters to marry men with good jobs and give them grandkids someday. Big Kathy wanted her girls to marry very young, to very rich men, and to have kids right away. This thing with Morgan is not what Kyle was brought up to do. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8521626
nicole21290 December 1 Share December 1 (edited) 5 hours ago, RealHousewife said: I think that's part of why Kyle may be struggling. It's not unusual for parents to want their daughters to marry men with good jobs and give them grandkids someday. Big Kathy wanted her girls to marry very young, to very rich men, and to have kids right away. This thing with Morgan is not what Kyle was brought up to do. I find the language Kyle has been using in the press (and the reunion) this year about this whole thing fascinating, to be honest. There's still so much we don't know about her upbringing and it's clear she's basically having to re-evaluate everything she was taught to believe was true about herself, which is why I get frustrated when people don't think she's sharing enough on their desired timeline. The idea of being on 'autopilot' or being a 'robot' for over five decades of your life is kind of a lot. ------- "I have changed. I mean, I grew up with - you know, everything had to be, like, you know, by the book, and everything your mom teaches you, that's what you have to think and believe, and in this last year and a half, I have changed and I don't know what the future holds. So why wouldn't I say maybe [to dating a woman]?" "You’re raised a certain way, or at least for me, just on autopilot, that this is how life is." Richards says she began to reflect on how she was “raised a certain way with certain beliefs,” which led her to reframe the way she thought about various topics. “Regardless of whether it's getting a tattoo at my age or my sexuality, whatever it is, I was like, you know, I have my own thoughts and my own beliefs on this." "And obviously I was raised a certain way and was like a robot, like this is what you're supposed to do and this is how you act, this is how you behave. I think it got - A couple of years ago, I just was like, you know what, I have my own thoughts and feelings." "I really never thought like this before. This was not the way I was raised, that's not the way my mind even operated. And all of a sudden I was thinking like that." "A lot of things in this last couple years made me see things differently. I just realized that I had one way of thinking, the way I was raised, and was just on autopilot. And all of a sudden I was like, 'Wait, I have my own thoughts, my own feelings that have nothing to do with the way I was raised or what I was taught and it's okay. Whether that's getting a tattoo at my age or whatever, my sexual orientation, it's okay." Edited December 1 by nicole21290 2 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8521643
ZettaK December 1 Share December 1 2 hours ago, nicole21290 said: I find the language Kyle has been using in the press (and the reunion) this year about this whole thing fascinating, to be honest. There's still so much we don't know about her upbringing and it's clear she's basically having to re-evaluate everything she was taught to believe was true about herself, which is why I get frustrated when people don't think she's sharing enough on their desired timeline. The idea of being on 'autopilot' or being a 'robot' for over five decades of your life is kind of a lot. ------- "I have changed. I mean, I grew up with - you know, everything had to be, like, you know, by the book, and everything your mom teaches you, that's what you have to think and believe, and in this last year and a half, I have changed and I don't know what the future holds. So why wouldn't I say maybe [to dating a woman]?" "You’re raised a certain way, or at least for me, just on autopilot, that this is how life is." Richards says she began to reflect on how she was “raised a certain way with certain beliefs,” which led her to reframe the way she thought about various topics. “Regardless of whether it's getting a tattoo at my age or my sexuality, whatever it is, I was like, you know, I have my own thoughts and my own beliefs on this." “I really never thought like this before. This is not the way I was raised. That’s not the way my mind even operated." "And obviously I was raised a certain way and was like a robot, like this is what you're supposed to do and this is how you act, this is how you behave. I think it got - A couple of years ago, I just was like, you know what, I have my own thoughts and feelings." "I really never thought like this before. This was not the way I was raised, that's not the way my mind even operated. And all of a sudden I was thinking like that." "A lot of things in this last couple years made me see things differently. I just realized that I had one way of thinking, the way I was raised, and was just on autopilot. And all of a sudden I was like, 'Wait, I have my own thoughts, my own feelings that have nothing to do with the way I was raised or what I was taught and it's okay. Whether that's getting a tattoo at my age or whatever, my sexual orientation, it's okay." One of her few close friends died, she was getting older, her daughters were leaving home, and she started rethinking her life. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8521661
dmeets December 2 Share December 2 On 11/27/2024 at 11:45 AM, Avaleigh said: Even Joyce, it seemed like they were genuine friends even after her time on the show finished, but it doesn't seem to have lasted unless I missed the memo there. Entirely possible, I don't follow the Housewives as much as I used to. Joyce was pretty disgusted with the Brandi/Kyle/Yolanda gang-up on LVP in Mexico. After the season ended, Joyce became really good friends with Lisa, I think Lisa's mentioned her as the housewife she remains closest to. I never got the sense Kyle and Dorit were real friends. While Lisa was there the two of them were snarling at each other over who would be Lisa's top minion. They didn't become "best friends" until they were left alone with two tighter pairs: Sutton/Garcelle and Rinna/Erika. Their dynamic now reminds me more of their old frenemy relationship. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8522531
hottesthw December 2 Share December 2 On 12/1/2024 at 3:30 AM, nicole21290 said: I find the language Kyle has been using in the press (and the reunion) this year about this whole thing fascinating, to be honest. There's still so much we don't know about her upbringing and it's clear she's basically having to re-evaluate everything she was taught to believe was true about herself, which is why I get frustrated when people don't think she's sharing enough on their desired timeline. The idea of being on 'autopilot' or being a 'robot' for over five decades of your life is kind of a lot. ------- "I have changed. I mean, I grew up with - you know, everything had to be, like, you know, by the book, and everything your mom teaches you, that's what you have to think and believe, and in this last year and a half, I have changed and I don't know what the future holds. So why wouldn't I say maybe [to dating a woman]?" "You’re raised a certain way, or at least for me, just on autopilot, that this is how life is." Richards says she began to reflect on how she was “raised a certain way with certain beliefs,” which led her to reframe the way she thought about various topics. “Regardless of whether it's getting a tattoo at my age or my sexuality, whatever it is, I was like, you know, I have my own thoughts and my own beliefs on this." "And obviously I was raised a certain way and was like a robot, like this is what you're supposed to do and this is how you act, this is how you behave. I think it got - A couple of years ago, I just was like, you know what, I have my own thoughts and feelings." "I really never thought like this before. This was not the way I was raised, that's not the way my mind even operated. And all of a sudden I was thinking like that." "A lot of things in this last couple years made me see things differently. I just realized that I had one way of thinking, the way I was raised, and was just on autopilot. And all of a sudden I was like, 'Wait, I have my own thoughts, my own feelings that have nothing to do with the way I was raised or what I was taught and it's okay. Whether that's getting a tattoo at my age or whatever, my sexual orientation, it's okay." Nahhh she is just saying the same nothing over and over again to keep viewers hanging on without having to really do anything. Because she’s got nothing going on to do. Kyle is very happy having the hot husband making millions so she can strut around town on her bicycle with her Hermes bags hanging off the back. She just can’t come out and say it. 6 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8522641
Dr Mama December 2 Share December 2 On 11/20/2024 at 7:45 PM, swankie said: All of this and she ends up looking exactly the same. We got a glimpse of Kathy pre-glam at the reunion show last year, I believe, and it was SHOCKING how different she looked with no makeup. The transformation was unreal. Made me wish I could afford to have full glam on standby! 😄 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8522733
Dr Mama December 2 Share December 2 On 11/22/2024 at 5:17 AM, Keywestclubkid said: she would have been aghast if someone was at her function and acted a fool with pulling their hair out... the more i watch her the more she annoys me .. its the entitlement that she can do these things in public and its ok .. ugh even if it was a hot flash excuse yourself dont start frantically pulling at your hair like a loon :) When I was watching that scene, I started to wonder if maybe Kathy is starting to have some cognitive issues. She's on the young side for that, but I thought I noticed her hand sort of shaking as someone else was trying to help her with her extensions. I don't know--something about that scene made me think there was something more than hot flashes involved. 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8522758
Natalie68 December 2 Share December 2 On 11/28/2024 at 6:48 PM, ZettaK said: Do I have to watch it now? I don't really want to. You do. So do I! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8522798
Natalie68 December 2 Share December 2 3 hours ago, Natalie68 said: You do. So do I! Follow up: Watched it beginning to end (which I had not done before). M'kay. Kyle does not exude sex appeal. AT ALL. Maybe she was holding back or she is a terrible actress or she just wanted to stir up some controversy. Don't know. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't like age differences so large you could have parented your partner. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8522914
ZettaK December 3 Share December 3 On 12/2/2024 at 6:17 PM, Natalie68 said: Follow up: Watched it beginning to end (which I had not done before). M'kay. Kyle does not exude sex appeal. AT ALL. Maybe she was holding back or she is a terrible actress or she just wanted to stir up some controversy. Don't know. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't like age differences so large you could have parented your partner. I didn't watch it yet. I think she is a terrible actress, and she wanted to stir up controversy. She has a storyline for a couple of seasons already, and she probably helped Morgan's career a little. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8523916
Rahul December 10 Share December 10 (edited) This show is still so dull. I did a time check and was only 22 minutes in. Even this "new" unfiltered Dorit vs Kyle feud is not holding my attention. Save me. Edited December 10 by Rahul 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8529110
RealHousewife December 11 Share December 11 On 12/2/2024 at 5:17 PM, Natalie68 said: Follow up: Watched it beginning to end (which I had not done before). M'kay. Kyle does not exude sex appeal. AT ALL. Maybe she was holding back or she is a terrible actress or she just wanted to stir up some controversy. Don't know. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't like age differences so large you could have parented your partner. I only saw pics, but I've thought the same about Kyle. I'm not sure why. It kind of perplexes me because she is a beautiful woman, is in amazing shape, great skin, glorious hair, etc. Like, don't most of those traits make for a sexy woman? She looks an awful lot like Demi Moore, and Demi is a literal sex symbol. As a Housewives fan, I've wondered if Kyle is just too Kyle for me to see sex appeal. lol She goes back and forth between bully and crybaby, and neither is attractive now matter how pretty you are. 6 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8529849
hoodooznoodooz December 11 Share December 11 (edited) 6 hours ago, RealHousewife said: I only saw pics, but I've thought the same about Kyle. I'm not sure why. It kind of perplexes me because she is a beautiful woman, is in amazing shape, great skin, glorious hair, etc. Like, don't most of those traits make for a sexy woman? She looks an awful lot like Demi Moore, and Demi is a literal sex symbol. As a Housewives fan, I've wondered if Kyle is just too Kyle for me to see sex appeal. lol. She goes back and forth between bully and crybaby, and neither is attractive no matter how pretty you are. For me, it’s because Kyle is very transparent. I can see when she’s feeling insecure, envious, spiteful, resentful, smug. I can see her trying to manipulate. I can see how much she TRIES to seem nice. And how much she TRIES, in general. And she’s extremely high-maintenance. And shallow. And materialistic. None of these qualities is sexy. Edited December 11 by hoodooznoodooz 5 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8529852
Chalby December 16 Share December 16 On 11/19/2024 at 6:07 PM, Straycat80 said: Not that I care but why are they still beating this is Kyle Bi or not storyline to death? And we still don’t know right? Exactly! Thank you. Did Bravo not get last year's memo that the viewers don't care who Kyle canoodles behind closed doors. I wish the other HWs would not acknowledge the rumours, or Morgan, for that matter. No one cares. If we can't watch a reality show w/o the HWs wanting to control the narrative (or lack thereof), I'm going to just read the comments, sans show. On 12/10/2024 at 9:31 PM, hoodooznoodooz said: I can see how much she TRIES to seem nice. And how much she TRIES, in general. And she’s extremely high-maintenance. And shallow. And materialistic. Yes, Kyle has had a rough couple of years, but I keep waiting, and hoping, for her fun and hilarious interactions with the others. She is very funny, and I enjoy her impersonations. I want that Kyle back, although I understand divorce doesn't put one in a celebratory mood. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/150557-s14e01-grace-time-is-over/page/5/#findComment-8533949
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