The View: Week of 10/7/2024

[GHScorpiosRule]

19 minutes ago, Axie said:

The term “sandwich generation” has been around for, um, generations. It’s nothing new,

And yet, in all my years, I've never heard of it, or seen it referenced in articles, media, whatever. And my head hasn't been hiding under a rock. 

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, Snapdragon said:

I'm in my early forties and I have a couple friends who have kids at home but due to age/health problems, also have their parents living with them or are responsible for handling their parents' health needs.  

Yep.  I am older than you and still find myself worrying about my kids and now about my grandkids even though they don't live with me.  And  at the same time I am more and more responsible for handling my dad's increasing needs as he ages.  Sandwich generation, to me, simply means you're in the middle with people on both 'sides' relying on you for help, even if all that help  sometimes amounts to is a listening ear and a shoulder to cry on.

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

Yesterday Sunny asked Whoopi if she would be OK with her grandchildren being atheists. 

I wished they would push back on her more.  What does OK even mean?  Would Sunny cut them off and never have contact again if her kids married out of their faith or :gasp: became an agnostic or an atheist?   My kids were both raised somewhat Catholic and went to Catholic schools and they are both raging atheists.   Only difference it's ever made to my life is...hmmm,  it's never made a difference.  Sunny will cope.

Edited October 10 by Dimity

[bluegirl147]

21 minutes ago, Dimity said:

What does OK even mean?  Would Sunny cut them off and never have contact again if her kids married out of their faith or :gasp: became an agnostic or an atheist? 

How would Sunny feel if someone treated her faith as something that should be looked at as not worthy? If she wants respect then she needs to respect other people's beliefs or lack thereof.  More and more people are identifying as non religious whether she likes it or not.

[Shrek]

1 hour ago, Axie said:

The term “sandwich generation” has been around for, um, generations. It’s nothing new,

If you so say, I've never heard it until today & neither has Fiona.

[Axie]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And yet, in all my years, I've never heard of it, or seen it referenced in articles, media, whatever. And my head hasn't been hiding under a rock. 

I can’t help you with that.  It’s not new.

[Shrek]

21 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

How would Sunny feel if someone treated her faith as something that should be looked at as not worthy? If she wants respect then she needs to respect other people's beliefs or lack thereof.  More and more people are identifying as non religious whether she likes it or not.

Sorry for the laughing face but thinking that Sunny would ever respect anyone else's beliefs made me laugh.

[Haleth]

16 minutes ago, Axie said:

I can’t help you with that.  It’s not new.

I can vouch. It’s not a new term. 

[Axie]

2 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I can vouch. It’s not a new term. 

Also not a hill worth dying on.

[Dimity]

3 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I can vouch. It’s not a new term. 

Sandwich generation

According to this I guess I can consider myself a "club sandwich"!  Not sure I like that idea...

[Axie]

1981.  Not new.

[Shrek]

4 hours ago, Haleth said:

Trump is in for it now. He insulted Whoopi’s humor and Sunny’s intelligence.

Trevor Noah is such a cutie pie. 

I can't wait for Howard Stern to be back after Trump had a go at him as well, he's not exactly known for being shy when on the radio.

Edited October 10 by Shrek

[GHScorpiosRule]

Caught some bad n YouTube today and not gonna lie: I LOVED Sunny’s personal note.

And Trevor is such a cutie patootie!

[maggiemae]

Sandwich generation has been around since the early 80's; it is about people in their 40's and 50's with parents over 65 and still raising children or supporting a grown child financially. Pew Research said it was true for 47% of that segment of  adults in 2013. 

I can see that.

What I can't ever understand is a very quick trend for adults in their 40's and 50's saying they were now orphans back about 15 years ago since both parents had died.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sugarbaker design]

I loved that Trevor Noah didn't let Whoop have the last word on "because I said so".

[Mollywolly555]

Is it just me or does anyone else HATE the way they complain about Trump by repeating, repeating, repeating, quoting, and acknowledging his lies, word salads, and actions while complaining about him and all the media coverage of his lies, word salads and actions??? 

They are just doing what they are complaining about. Just like most other media. It's not humorous or news when it's the same old insult schnick.

Yes, I know controversy gets more attention..... but for God's sake,  talk more pointedly about Harris's platform, plans and experience v. His Craziness.

Or point out specific parts of Project 666 that relate to women, hurricane help, senior aid, etc., i.e., as related to current news and  viewers. 

Inform intelligently. 

I know the View is news cum entertainment, but have some perspective on what you all... the hosts...are perpetuating.....normalizing  immature, derogatory, hypocritical  namecalling  at the least and promoting dangerous rhetoric for the US as a nation and world leader,  and people with different views and of different ethnicities.

Stop giving him more press. 

 

 

[Haleth]

I know the idea is to shed light on the outrageous to ridiculous stuff, but yeah, we’ve already seen it and Trump fans are not watching this show. 

[Sue in her 60s]

On 10/10/2024 at 9:45 AM, KittyQ said:

RE: Sandwich generation - I wondered about this as well. My understanding of the term is it applies to people who have children who require more hands on care (not typically college age) and parents who require more substantial care (perhaps with health issues), not people who have kids who are out of the house and parents who are able to care for themselves. 

I was doing sandwich duty with parents and grandchildren. Not full time care with both generations at the same time, but driving for parents one day, watching the grands the next day, etc.

[Sue in her 60s]

On 10/10/2024 at 10:17 AM, bluegirl147 said:

Yesterday Sunny asked Whoopi if she would be OK with her grandchildren being atheists.  She also said she wanted to marry a man who shared her faith because of morals and values.  I got news for Sunny you can be an atheist and still have values and morals. She can practice her faith but she doesn't need to be so smug and judgmental about it. I find her more unlikable by the day. 

I get what you're saying, but as an atheist myself, I acknowledge that what I value may not be what others do. As long as they don't impose their values on others, I have no problem with them. Sunny has said many times that she opposes abortion personally but is not opposed to others making a different choice. I can understand her wanting to order her life by marrying someone brought up in the same faith. Her children may test her rigidity about faith if they decide to step outside Catholicism.

[GHScorpiosRule]

I've noticed that Sunny keeps making the same mistake: When she says that Harris plans on having a Republican "candidate" when she means having a Republican in her cabinet.

No one corrected her today.

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

I got news for Sunny you can be an atheist and still have values and morals. She can practice her faith but she doesn't need to be so smug and judgmental about it. I find her more unlikable by the day. 

I agree, especially with your last sentence.  Today's show (Friday) was a great example of "Resting Sunny Face." Judgmental "I was a prosecutor," can't accept that others' opinions are valuable and she needs to STOP interrupting. 

Some cameraperson must not like her; we catch "that look" much too often these days.

She presented her sour look when ANYONE at the table tried to make a point that didn't focus on her "Black men" topic today. She was actually INSULTING to Sara--who can probably give it back but is too smart to  do it on the air.  Sunny presents an attitude that Sara is just some bubble-headed blonde.  Her jealousy of everyone is palpable. I especially enjoy the attention and TV time Alyssa is getting on the news channels.  She IS considered an expert by the experts.  Sullen Sunny is NOT and her jealousy is obvious.

Edited October 11 by Back Atcha

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

As long as they don't impose their values on others, I have no problem with them. Sunny has said many times that she opposes abortion personally but is not opposed to others making a different choice.

For several years, Sunny did NOT add that qualifier.  She was morally adamant in her stance AND judgmental about anyone who did not share the "absolutely no abortion rule" 100%.  I don't appreciate Whoopi much, but I think Whoopi kept nudging Sunny until she decided to present a more acceptable opinion.  I'm not so sure she believes it.   

 

3 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

I can understand her wanting to order her life by marrying someone brought up in the same faith.

Those of us who went to Catholic schools...for eight years, twelve years, or longer had that guideline drummed into us all the time--at school, definitely.  At home, probably.  Some didn't question it...until they did.

[Gemma Violet]

1 hour ago, Back Atcha said:

Her jealousy of everyone is palpable.

I thought of Sunny immediately after what Brian said to Alyssa on yesterday's podcast.  They were discussing the live podcast event the hosts did a few days ago in front of a big audience, and Brian said, "I wouldn't say it's a surprise but one of the big revelations was that there are a lot of Alyssa fans out there and you got a rousing amount of applause."  I'm assuming this was when Alyssa was introduced.  The reason I thought of Sunny was that it probably irked her that Alyssa got so much applause.  BTW, that live podcast show will be streamed at a later date, so I'm looking forward to seeing it.

[Sue in her 60s]

1 hour ago, Back Atcha said:

I agree, especially with your last sentence.  Today's show (Friday) was a great example of "Resting Sunny Face." Judgmental "I was a prosecutor," can't accept that others' opinions are valuable and she needs to STOP interrupting. 

Some cameraperson must not like her; we catch "that look" much too often these days.

She presented her sour look when ANYONE at the table tried to make a point that didn't focus on her "Black men" topic today. She was actually INSULTING to Sara--who can probably give it back but is too smart to  do it on the air.  Sunny presents an attitude that Sara is just some bubble-headed blonde.  Her jealousy of everyone is palpable. I especially enjoy the attention and TV time Alyssa is getting on the news channels.  She IS considered an expert by the experts.  Sullen Sunny is NOT and her jealousy is obvious.

Oops. In your recent post it seems as though you quoted me but you accidentally quoted BlueGirl147. I don't find Sunny unlikable. But I wonder if it is exhausting being her friend.

 

[Back Atcha]

 

6 hours ago, Sue in her 60s said:

Oops. In your recent post it seems as though you quoted me but you accidentally quoted BlueGirl147. I don't find Sunny unlikable. But I wonder if it is exhausting being her friend.

Yes, Sue, you're absolutely correct. I'm usually better at this QUOTE stuff.  So sorry.  I've repeated blluegirl147's comment (and my comment) below.  SO SORRY.------------------------------------

On 10/10/2024 at 8:17 AM, bluegirl147 said:

Yesterday Sunny asked Whoopi if she would be OK with her grandchildren being atheists.  She also said she wanted to marry a man who shared her faith because of morals and values.  I got news for Sunny you can be an atheist and still have values and morals. She can practice her faith but she doesn't need to be so smug and judgmental about it. I find her more unlikable by the day. 

Then I (BackAtcha)  get snotty in my response (hope these "repeats" aren't confusing):

I agree, especially with your last sentence.  Today's show (Friday) was a great example of "Resting Sunny Face." Judgmental "I was a prosecutor," can't accept that others' opinions are valuable and she needs to STOP interrupting. 

Some cameraperson must not like her; we catch "that look" much too often these days.

She presented her sour look when ANYONE at the table tried to make a point that didn't focus on her "Black men" topic today. She was actually INSULTING to Sara--who can probably give it back but is too smart to  do it on the air.  Sunny presents an attitude that Sara is just some bubble-headed blonde.  Her jealousy of everyone is palpable. I especially enjoy the attention and TV time Alyssa is getting on the news channels.  She IS considered an expert by the experts.  Sullen Sunny is NOT and her jealousy is obvious.

[Mollywolly555]

I admire Sunny for her intelligence, experience, and  strong opinions, and I still appreciate her somewhat for those qualities, but she  has grown increasingly  rigid, and markedly less diplomatic ... which will win her few new advocates or opportunities to chime in or share her views on other news shows. I really dislike her smarmy, coy  sucking up to celebrities. I also really want her to change her Barbie ponytail hair.

Sunny could have framed her description of Sara as a genuinely kind person who sees the good in everyone,  instead of "puppy dog tails, etc"... making her sound like she's a dimwitted Pollyanna whose opinion is obviously naive or uninformed. That description to Sara's face was not smart or nice toward a supposed friend or coworker you have to work with regularly. Kind of mean girl, actually. 

I have noticed recently that on several occasions, Joy steps on or talks over Sunny's final words on a subject with a joke or comment thus not allowing Sunny to drive her oh-so- serious point home. It is kind of funny for me to see that happen. 

Alyssa fits the bill handily for those other news shows and for gaining followers...attractive, personable, and a seemingly middle of the roader, but also a master in double speak. I don't trust her at all.

[Back Atcha]

7 hours ago, Mollywolly555 said:

I admire Sunny for her intelligence, experience, and  strong opinions, and I still appreciate her somewhat for those qualities, but she  has grown increasingly  rigid, and markedly less diplomatic

This is excellent...as is your entire post.  Early on I gave Sunny a little "grace" for being new at the table. Then I bent a bit because she seemed SO NEEDY (and jealous...especially since Farah joined the table). More than a couple of years ago she wore out her welcome for me.  Her NEED to "educate" us too often. We know, Sunny.  We know...

• The celebrity "friends" she hangs with
• She was a PROSECUTOR or sex crimes
• Her family is Perfect in Every Way
• She owns and USES every product presented on View Your Deal
  • (oh...and that she STOLE Gretta Monahans "delivery" of "Let's Get Shopping")

Someone she admires needs to sit her down and explain BRAGGING...and, while they're at it...interrupting (especially Farah).  Not intentionally, but she's finally showing that her perfect little family ain't so perfect; she can't control everyone.

 

[Mollywolly555]

Thanks, Backatcha!