Season 26 Live Feeds Discussion

[Rodney]

From around 11:15 PST/BBT:

Kimo and Angela talk some game.

Kimo asks Angela if there's anyone in the house whom she trusts one-hundred percent.  She thinks for a moment and says Tucker, for sure, that she could get there with T'kor, and that she likes Leah, but she knows Leah is gunning hard for that money.  She is a smarter player than she looks.

Angela saying people keep taking "him" (I think Tucker) upstairs, and she has to let it go and not worry about it, because it's not her game, it's his.  Says that she knows that he will have more options and get people to come to talk to him, so she's going to let it go.  She can just keep fighting and trying to win competitions and hope that things work out, but she can't control other people's games.  She just has to control hers, and keeping her paranoia down is a good way of doing that.

Kimo talks about getting friendly with people and such, and how now in life, he uses the word "friends" less often.  Now he thinks of friends as people with whom he goes through "the fire," and he feels that this house is one of those situations.  He wants to align with people in whom he can invest deep time and connections, so he's been very slow to make that happen.

Angela says that she understands that perspective.  Sometimes, she feels like a guest in the house and not a player, largely because of her first-week meltdown, but she has to keep telling herself not to.  Promises that if she hears things about Kimo, she will always come and talk to him about it.  He says that he genuinely hasn't heard her name since last week, and they talk through why and how Tucker set the game off.  She says that that's nice, but that if there are three nominees rather than two, then she understands that she'll always be a priority and an option in that regard.

I've got to say that it's good to see that Angela's calmed down considerably from the first two weeks and is focusing on trying to rebuild her game.  Her paranoia-driven breakdown really damaged her game early on, and she's trying to recover and get her bearings back rather than give up (like Kenney), so I respect that.

[peachmangosteen]

Angela needs to go crazy again because this shit is getting real boring lol. The body on the ground, listening under the door, begging to be in the alliance stuff was great. More of that!

I'm excited to see what the new twist is tonight. I'm really hoping it'll kill or at least wound Collective/Pentagon. But who am I kidding, it'll most likely just make a steamroll even more probable.

Edited August 13 by peachmangosteen

[Rodney]

6 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Angela needs to go crazy again because this shit is getting real boring lol. The body on the ground, listening under the door, begging to be in the alliance stuff was great. More of that!

I'm excited to see what the new twist is tonight. I'm really hoping it'll kill or at least wound Collective/Pentagon. But who am I kidding, it'll most likely just make a steamroll even more probable.

I think that it'll depend upon who gets the twist or power, if there is one.  If someone outside of it, then maybe there's a chance.

[30 Helens]

I’ll be a little shocked if it doesn’t benefit Tucker and/or Angela. I think Grodner is Team Tucker. 

Tucker and Angela: the new Danielle and Jason, lol.

[peachmangosteen]

16 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

I’ll be a little shocked if it doesn’t benefit Tucker and/or Angela. I think Grodner is Team Tucker. 

Him ranting and raving at Production just now for daring to tell him not to crack Rubina’s neck may have them rethinking this lol.

[peachmangosteen]

Now this Chelsie is funny!

[Rodney]

Brooklyn and Chelsie are anticipating Makensy going home, arrogantly presuming that Cedric will win the AI Arena.  Brooklyn, if she wins, will put up Tucker, Angela, and Cam.  They want to maximize one of their people winning the Veto.  She just as arrogantly says, "Angela's not winning a thing."  Girl, she's won two HoHs Competitions, which is two more competitions than you.

Edited August 14 by Rodney

[Rodney]

Sheesh.  Chelsie's mother has M.S. that's progressed fairly far.  That's horrible.

[Lamb18]

Tucker was indignant that he couldn't give piggy back rides! BB won't let him! Gee, I wonder why??? (squeak squeak)

Just before then he was doing something with Rubina's neck that just icked me out, as I've had decades of neck problems and pain due to whiplash. She was lying down on her back and he had his hands around her neck. He was feeling around with his fingers and pressing at times, sometimes pulling. She would react when something hurt. I just shuddered because I only let a trained professional do anything like that to my neck. Later on I heard someone--I believe Cam--say that the wrong turn could make her neck break. He didn't think Tucker should be doing this.

Just now I was listening to Chelsie talking about her prison ministry, the first time she preached there was a fire. The second time, a girl had a seizure. She did this for several years while attending college.

46 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Him ranting and raving at Production just now for daring to tell him not to crack Rubina’s neck may have them rethinking this lol.

That was also included in his complaining about not giving piggy back rides. I thought I heard him allude to the neck cracking. I guess production agrees with me about trained professionals.

[Rodney]

Well, Brooklyn just confirmed that if Makensy wins the AI Arena on Thursday that she will, in fact, vote out Rubina over Cedric.

Like, really, Brooklyn?  Your F2 over Cedric?  Is Cedric that important to you?  This woman's as two-faced as Chelsie!

[30 Helens]

Brooklyn and Rubina? That's news to me. I don't think I've ever even seen them talk. I think Brooklyn is banking on a F2 with Chelsie. 

[Brian Cronin]

The funny thing to me about Brooklyn and Chelsie is that it is the sort of "Mean Girl" (quotes because I don't really think they're THAT mean) duo that they THOUGHT they were going to get in BB15 with Candice and Aaryn, before it turned out that Aaryn was a super-big racist (remember, Candice came into the house hoping to do the Britney/Monet thing from BB12, but, well, you know, the BB15 house wasn't interested in doing that with a Black woman). 

But now, 11 years later, Brooklyn and Chelsie are giving them their mean girl duo!

[30 Helens]

Now Tucker is working his chiropractic magic on Kimo. There is no neck cracking, but there is definite shoulder squeezing. He's putting a lot of pressure on one spot. We have shirtless Tucker kneading and pressing from behind, Kimo with his eyes closed, moaning and sighing, and I'm guessing a lot of fans who haven't enjoyed feeds as much since Frankie and Zach.

[Rodney]

1 hour ago, 30 Helens said:

Brooklyn and Rubina? That's news to me. I don't think I've ever even seen them talk. I think Brooklyn is banking on a F2 with Chelsie. 

Oh, I've seen them talk plenty of times since the feeds first started for this season.  Mostly in whispers for game talk.  Rubina brings Brooklyn info all the time, and vice versa (though Brooklyn doesn't bring Rubina nearly as much).  They formed their F2 early on.

But in retrospect, it seems like Brooklyn relegated Rubina to more of a back-pocket F2 after she got scooped up by the Pentagon, seeing as how she is now prioritizing Cedric and the rest of the Pentagon over Rubina.

Well, this is new.

Kimo is, sort of, maybe, opening the door to voting out Cedric? . . . No, no, wait.  He's acting like he has a battery in his back now.  He really is trying to rally votes against Cedric.

This would be major, as I'm not sure that the Pentagon would hold without Cedric keeping Cam attached to it.  (Have we ever seen Cam meet with them with the frequency of Chelsie, Brooklyn, Cedric, and Quinn meeting up?)  Cam and Joseph might go over to Tucker, Angela, T'kor, and Kimo, Brooklyn and Chelsie might panic and try to solidify the women more with Leah and Makensy (and probably try to pull Rubina over to them), and Quinn may be out on a ledge by himself, facing Tucker and his potential numbers.

If this really works, then this could be the first really good house flip since . . . well . . . Izzy's eviction last season, or going way back to Zakiyah's fully-deserved eviction in BB18.

[30 Helens]

So Quinn and T-Kor are talking about flipping on the Pentagon. The two of them plus Kimo plus Leah (?) will start something new. There is also talk of working strategically with Tucker short term, which will somehow result in Angela going home. I don't really understand the plan, other than Quinn doesn't want to involve Joseph other than lying to him so he thinks he's involved. And somehow he has to convince Tucker to work with Leah. They're going to have a secret meeting about it in the morning.

Earlier, Joseph was musing to himself about maybe working with Tucker, because he doesn't trust Quinn. For being such a pariah, Tucker is quite the man of the hour!

Quinn to camera: On second thought, teaming up with Tucker doesn't help him. It only helps Tucker. So he's only down with the plan if Tucker wins HoH. Unless... it would make such good TV! He mentally goes through the seasons to see if enemies have successfully teamed up before. Nope. So he's not trying. He refuses to look stupid. He's been outsmarting Tucker, so why stop now? Not even the siren song of Good TV can sway him. (Unless Tucker wins HoH.)

[peachmangosteen]

T'Kor and Kimo talk to each other literally every single night about flipping on Collective and then never actually do anything about it so I imagine this is just more of that.

I actually think Cedric going over Rubina would be a pretty decent possibility if there were no AI Arena but with that it'll be too hard to convince people to commit to completely flipping the game just on the chance Cedric loses the AI comp. That's pretty risky even for players who aren't as risk averse and passive as the ones this season.

Edited August 14 by peachmangosteen

[Jillibean]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

T'Kor and Kimo talk to each other literally every single night about flipping on Collective and then never actually do anything about it so I imagine this is just more of that.

Yes, every day they have all these ideas for everything they're going to do, and then they actually follow through with none of them. Their stock is dropping every day with me, because they just sit around and lament that people aren't doing what they want them to do when they in fact have not actually asked anyone to do anything. It would have been so easy for them to get Quinn NOT to nominate Rubina this week, and they just didn't even try at all. It is unreal to me that Quinn, who was effectively HOH this week, STILL has no idea that Leah is not his ally when there is zero reason for T'Kor and Kimo not to give him that information. 

Quinn is really a disaster. He is so aware of "Quinn playing Big Brother" that he's making a complete mess of actually playing Big Brother. That said, I really wish anyone would tell him that Leah isn't into the flirting, because it's uncomfortable, and I believe he would stop immediately if he realized Leah didn't think it's fun. I'll feel bad for him if he eventually exits the house to the "Quinn is a creep" narrative Leah has been pushing when he explicitly asked for consent to flirt with her and also asked her to please withdraw that consent if she wasn't enjoying it. 

[Neveragain]

17 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I'm excited to see what the new twist is tonight

Girl you’re a long time watcher, you’ve been at this forum since I can remember. I love your perspective, clarity, sarcasm and lack of BS ( the New Yorker in me, I guess) I am shocked, SHOCKED, to read that you’re excited to see the new twist! Come on Peach. It’s either going to be insignificant, stupid, boring or ridiculous, and either way will fizzle out within two weeks

[Rodney]

2 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

T'Kor and Kimo talk to each other literally every single night about flipping on Collective and then never actually do anything about it so I imagine this is just more of that.

 

1 hour ago, Jillibean said:

Yes, every day they have all these ideas for everything they're going to do, and then they actually follow through with none of them. Their stock is dropping every day with me, because they just sit around and lament that people aren't doing what they want them to do when they in fact have not actually asked anyone to do anything.

Actually, Kimo spent a good part of last night actually doing his damndest to shore up votes against Cedric in the event of him staying on the block (and he easily could, as Makensy has proven that he's beatable, if the third Veto Competition is any indication).  I do get the frustration with T'kor, though, because yeah, she only finally got the motivation to do so when even Quinn started showing interest in flipping on the Collective/Pentagon.  But Kimo's at least woken up to where he and T'kor stand, so I'm at least glad about that.

[Lamb18]

Good morning, all! I just turned on the feeds, expecting to see house guests buzzing around the kitchen and bathroom, but no, just snores from the hallway room. Cameras 1 and 2 are focused on the hallway bedroom. In #1, the view is from the camera in the corner overlooking Tucker's, Cedric's and Joseph's beds. We can only see Tucker but we can hear . . . someone. And I think it's Tucker, not Joseph. We can hear the snoring when Tyler is inhaling. I maligned Joseph. Camera 2 shows a closeup of Tucker from a different angle. Then FISH! The other two cameras were on the Rugged room with the stone coffin beds. Now all four cameras show blue fish swimming around in a background of equations.

[Lamb18]

Everyone's up now. Joseph is wearing something that looks like a blue and white tie dye body suit. Wait--I thought Cedric was sleeping in the corner bed of the hallway room, but this person's (who is bent over making the bed) hair is too long to be Cedric, and is too tall to be Quinn. It's Makensy!! She had to stand on Joseph's bed to make her own bed. (Joseph was no longer in the bed.) Makensy goes into the kitchen and gives Tucker a hug. He's busy opening and closing drawers and cupboards looking for something. Tucker reports there are ants everywhere. Joseph and someone Cedric are talking while brushing their teeth. 

Edited August 14 by Lamb18

[Lamb18]

Quinn, Cedric and Kimo are discussing the types of competitions they've had so far and what the next comp might be. Quinn said he had a dream about being in a comp with a rope tied around his waist for a double eviction and he had to unwind himself. He said Vince is a wrestler and he would be fast at that.

Joseph's outfit is actually a matching T-shirt and pants - both tie-dyed blue and wait so it looks like a full bodysuit.

[Lamb18]

Quinn says Paul - 5'7" - f'in' royalty. Now Kimo, Quinn and Cedric are talking about Nicole being in three seasons and now is an influencer and Victor being a cop. About how they'd be scared seeing this big dude coming up to their car.

[Brian Cronin]

I love how this is the season of the HGs all nailing each other's personalities...while missing that the things they are accurately making fun of also applies to them!

[TimWil]

I hope tomorrow’s episode includes Tucker’s attempt to crack Rubina’s neck, complete with 1970s porn music soundtrack (chick a WAH WAH) followed by a needle drop when Tucker is told by Production to stop it. I’m on the fence as to whether there should be 1970s porn music soundtrack when Tucker cracks Kimo’s neck, though.

[Lamb18]

Well, now we have kittens! Little orange fluffy guys!

Now what could be taking place that we'd have kittens instead of fish?

[Callaphera]

I dunno but I'm gonna guess that it involves Angela in some way.

ETA: apparently they're getting a catered lunch. That's two meals in two weeks - I think Production is thanking them for giving them a good show this season.

Edited August 14 by Callaphera

[Rodney]

Campaigns and game talk abound this morning in the house!

Cedric starts out by giving Kimo a pitch about why it's best for his personal game to keep him.  So far, it's that Tucker is a competition threat, and if Cedric is in the house, they're after each other, and Cedric is going to be one of Tucker's nominees, no matter what, and vice versa if Cedric wins the next HoH Competition.  (How about you promise him that you won't nominate him no matter what?)

Quinn walks into the room, and Cedric doesn't even slow down his pitch.  He just keeps it going.  T'kor is also in the room, though I didn't notice her till now.  She's asking Cedric a follow-up question about if Rubina comes off the block from the AI Arena.  If she does, has he pitched to her to make sure that he'll get her vote?  He says he will do some campaigning, but he has a different relationship with her, so his pitch will be different to her.

And now Chelsie joins them, as well, so Cedric updates her on how they're discussing his campaign.  He has a "her" to do in addition to Makensy ("her" being either Leah or Rubina, I guess).  Quinn is faux-upset that people didn't campaign to him, and T'kor says, "You put them on the block!"

T'kor then goes on to say thta people haven't campaigned yet to her, either, and now Quinn is giving tips for Cedric to sell his soul to get votes from Rubina or Makensy, whoever gets off the block if he doesn't.  But he does back it up and say that he shouldn't give the exact same pitch to both in case they compare notes.

After a detour to talk about other things, Cedric says, "And what about everyone in this room?"  Chelsie immediately confirms that Cedric has her vote.  Kimo and Quinn nod along, but T'kor says nothing.  They laugh and talk for another minute or so, and Cedric says "T'kor?"  She says, "What?"  He asks, "Do I have your vote?"  She smiles and nods yes, then lays her head back down with a very unexpressive face.

She's now getting up and leaving the room to get the day started.

Maybe I'm hopeful, but the fact she didn't jump in to say he had her vote and the face she made after saying yes is making me think she's just not tucking and rolling in with these people.  That, and the fact that she hasn't squealed anything to Cedric or Chelsie in terms of what she, Kimo, Quinn, Tucker, Angela, and Rubina were planning.

[Rodney]

More campaigning and game talk.

T'kor is talking to Rubina in the workout room now.  Rubina is running over those to whom she's talked.  T'kor asks about how the conversation with Cedric was, and Rubina says that it was a very simple "I scratch your back, you scratch mine."  T'kor encourages her to talk to Quinn, whom Rubina had kinda written off (since she knows that he was the one who nominated her in the first place).

She says that she's not too sure about Joseph and thinks that he has an allegiance to Quinn.  (He does not.  Joseph actually doesn't trust Quinn, but is just letting him think that he does.)  T'kor is telling her to keep talking and said, "Honestly you never know.  It's not a lost cause."  She adds that it's important to keep fostering relationships in the house, but Rubina is worried that she'll look fake if she hasn't talked game to people and asks for their votes.

I think that T'kor is trying to push her to talk to some of those people that could be votes against Cedric, which confirms to me that she's definitely all in on this house flip now.

T'kor asked Rubina to practice her pitch, but she said that it would be different for each person.  She didn't like how Quinn did his very templated speeches to people last week and wants to avoid coming off that way.  T'kor said that she is honestly going go and start having conversations with people, so let's see where those go!

I do like Rubina, but she is very lucky that she has other people to do all the heavy lifting on getting their votes for her.

More game talk.

After leaving Rubina, T'kor went back into the sky room and asked where some people were, including Joseph.  She then took Kimo out of the room with her, but the camera left us with Chelsie, Cedric, and Quinn instead.  Chelsie hypes Cedric up that he's going to win the AI Arena, and he said that he's going to put his real competitor face on.  (Hopefully, that face also comes with a new voice.)

Quinn says that the week has been fine.  His main target is still in the house, but oh, well.  He said that if Makensy goes home, then at least it doesn't feel like a waste of a week, whereas Rubina going home doesn't really help the situation at all.  (Then why did he put her up in the first place?!)  They think that Makensy would nominate Quinn and Cedric.  Quinn said that she was super hurt that he didn't share information with her.  Chelsie asks whether she was owed information from him.  He's recapping about how it's been a strained relationship with Makensy since he lied to Matt's face about keeping him.

[Rodney]

All right.  Kimo, Quinn, and T'kor now.  Let's see what's really going on.

T'kor wants to know if the Pentagon is trying to get Rubina out.  Quinn says no.  There was a conversation about it and Chelsie weighing the options, but he (Quinn) said "hell no" to it.  She was only going to go home if there was no other choice.  Chelsie thought maybe they were underestimating Makensy, but he pushed back on that by saying she's smart and was an athlete at a good school.  He believes that the Pentagon wasn't truly trying to get Rubina out, just thinking through the options, and Quinn shut it down.

T'kor and Kimo whisper while TK is also eating cereal, and Quinn speaks at a high volume, so this is super obnoxious with which to deal.  Kimo says that it was always best-case scenario that one of them won, and then they don't have to choose, but not sure which one.  Quinn says that Chelsie is the only one who brought up Rubina's name, so that was good.

Quinn referenced an earlier conversation among himself, T'kor, and Kimo about Tucker, and then we get fish.:(

Back to the trio less than a minute later.  Quinn is saying that they had talked about options for nominations and now he's just going to outright nominate Tucker, since Rubina or Angela would have him play for the Veto if they got Houseguest Choice, anyway.  Quinn talks about how good Tucker is at competitions, and he's better than Jag.

Kimo said if they decide to go in that direction to work with him, then they will be mindful about when to take him down to make sure they have the vote numbers.  Quinn agrees that Tucker would be a good sword with whom to take others down, and they agree to Cedric and Cam being the first ones at whom to aim him.

Kimo says that Quinn had asked if there was anything that he (Kimo) had with Rubina and Tucker.  He's saying no, but he's trying to see if it's feasible to go somewhere in that direction.  He believes that since Tucker blew up, people would never really see Quinn and Tucker happening again.  Kimo thinks that the three of them (Kimo, Quinn, and T'kor) can safely go back into being in the middle without people knowing it. Quinn agrees, but adds that it would take a lot of trust.  But he thinks they can direct both sides by pointing out who the other group is.

Brooklyn comes in, so they pretend that they're talking about the nominations and their campaigns.

Although the game talk has to stop here for the time being, it does sound like the flip is in motion, especially if Cedric stays on the block tomorrow.

[Rodney]

Game talk with Brooklyn.

Quinn says it would be super awkward if Makensy wins tomorrow, and Brooklyn agrees that it's the worst-case scenario if she (Makensy) wins the AI Arena.  They tell her that they think that it would still work for Cedric to stay, though, and then, they start talking about Kimo winning the first AI Arena.  Kimo says that he was very nervous, and that he can see Cedric feeling the same way now.

After Brooklyn leaves, T'kor was thinking that they didn't do a good job when she walked in, but Quinn said that they were still talking about game.  They just shifted to talking about the nominations/votes instead.  He doesn't think that she suspected a thing.  Kimo says how he tries to keep the conversation going and notices when people adjust their volume when other people walk into a room, as well as how obvious it is when they do so.

They all put their heads together, so this should help transcribing a bit.  They're talking more about working with Tucker next week and how it is doable.  Quinn says that Tucker doesn't like the scheme-y stuff, though, while Kimo says that Tucker that thinks he doesn't have the numbers and would realize that he needs help, even if he's the HoH.  They recap how Tucker lied to Quinn about not using the Veto.

Edited August 16 by Rodney

[Rodney]

Quinn says that "he" (not sure if it's Cedric or Tucker) might put up Kimo and T'kor against Quinn if they voted against him.  They're so fucking hard to follow.  T'kor talked for thirty seconds, but I couldn't catch any of it.

Quinn said that when shit goes down, he's curious about Brooklyn.  Either she's going to be the best player in the game and do whatever she can, or stick close to him.  He can't tell, because she's nice to everyone.  But she's here for her mother and children and knows that she will do anything possible.  He's saying that it's shitty, but he can pitch that Brooklyn and Joseph would win more physical comps than T'kor and Kimo.

Says he can't pitch a F2 to Brooklyn, because he has too much going on already.  But if she offers it to him, then he'll accept it, and then they'll be able to get her weaseled into that position.  They're talking about stuff way down the line, though, not immediate.

T'kor says that this week, they hope that Rubina wins so they don't have to show their cards, but if Makensy wins and it's Cedric vs. Rubina, then they have to be prepared to talk to the Collective about the possible split decision.  I didn't catch if she was coming down on a clear side there, because she whispers so much.  However, she said that they have to make sure that Leah and Makensy vote to evict whomever they choose to evict to cover their tracks.

Rubina, meanwhile, has been in the workout room with Brooklyn and they're talking, but I'm not listening so unsure what it's really about.

[Lamb18]

House guests are theorizing that Cedric is related to Terrence Howard, maybe Terrence is Cedric's grandpa. They think Cedric looks like him. 

Quinn and Joseph talking. Joseph's changed clothing. He's now wearing a peach and blue vertically striped shirt. By the way, Chelsie, I think, said that Joseph says he isn't paid for his work at the video store. Quinn thinks Chelsie is the #1 player, followed by T-Kor.

[Rodney]

Now Kimo, Quinn, and T'kor are counting votes.  Quinn doesn't think that Leah is a guaranteed Rubina vote, because Rubina never tries to include Leah in anything.  They count them three plus Tucker and are debating the fifth vote.  (Duh.  They need it to be Joseph, or Makensy if she wins tomorrow.)  Kimo says that he doesn't really want Cedric to go yet, but that he has to if Makensy comes down from the AI Arena, because they need Rubina.  Quinn says he thinks that the F2 that he has with Cedric is real.  Cedric suggested a two-person Diary Room with him and Quinn.  (That sounds like a winning duo.  NOT!)

Kimo, Quinn, and T'kor now talk about two people who are in love, and that it's super obvious, but not sure who, because they then started talking about Chelsie's Bible studies and how people connect over that.  Quinn reiterates that Cam, Chelsie, and Cedric are a tight trio, and he feels outside of that.  Kimo and T'kor agree, and Kimo says he feels like he's the bottom of a group and has no say in it.

Kimo says that he wants Cedric to stay, but strategically, he's one of the best competitors there, and they need to be conscious of that.  Quinn questions if they really do have the numbers to get rid of him.  He thinks that they need six, but they remind him that it could be a 5-5 tie, with Angela breaking it.  (YES!  Somebody finally thinks of that!)  Quinn thinks that Angela loves Cedric, but she also loves Rubina, so they debate back and forth over the past few weeks of it.

[Lamb18]

T-Kor does standing pushups against the kitchen island. And Angela and Tucker are chatting in the bathroom. They're talking about adding someone to their alliance. Tucker has someone in mind, says they'll be loyal, but I ddn't hear who they are.

 

[Rodney]

T'kor wants to give Chelsie no choice but to come to them.  To her, that means getting rid of Cedric (despite her prior promise to not vote him out) and destroying that link to the Pentagon.

Quinn sees Brooklyn as the weakest link in the Pentagon besides himself (in terms of turning on them, I guess).

They discuss the importance of pulling in Joseph.  Quinn thinks he should be the one to pull him in, because he’s closest to Quinn.

Quinn thinks that Chelsie is the best player now, and that Brooklyn is right behind her, so the two of them being tight is dangerous.  T'kor suggests that if they kick Cedric out, then Brooklyn and Chelsie don't really have many choices of with whom to align.  YES!

Quinn is convinced that Cedric will win and is just saying that Makensy will be gone, and Rubina is a number on whom they can work next week.  Quinn thinks he's the Joseph whisperer and is the only one who can get Joseph in on their side.  (Even though he leaves the room every time that Quinn walks in.  Ha!)

Now that I can actually hear T'kor and Kimo voice their thoughts, I like them a lot more.  They really are smart players who've been paying attention.

 

Edited August 14 by Rodney

[Callaphera]

7 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Now that I can actually hear T'kor and Kimo voice their thoughts, I like them a lot more.  They really are smart players who've been paying attention.

In order to play, they'd have to leave their bedroom.

I refuse to get excited about any potential house flip until one or both of them get up and leave the comfort of their bed for more than a meal or a bathroom break.

[Rodney]

Oh, no.  Leah is crying in the HoH room and being comforted by Angela and Makensy. 

She is worried that she is coming across "a certain way."  She just used the words "argumentative" and "rude."  No idea if I missed something last night or not, but she said that she was thinking about it last night.  Maybe she's worried about all the shit that she's been talking about Quinn?

I know that she had a little debate with Cedric a couple nights ago about relationship stuff, but from what I've heard, it didn't get heated or anything.

Elsewhere, Quinn is telling Joseph now about possibly burying the hatchet with Tucker.  But if he's able to backdoor him, then he's going to.  He says that he will agree to it upfront, though.  So I've seen him tell both Brooklyn and Joseph about it now.

Then, for a laugh, Joseph outright, and in all seriousness, says that there's only one person playing a better game than he to Quinn, being Chelsie.  He clapped back after Quinn said that Chelsie was indeed number one, but then Brooklyn as number two, and Joseph wasn't having that.

Joseph still believes he's a bigger player than he is.

Edited August 14 by Rodney

[Brian Cronin]

15 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Now that I can actually hear T'kor and Kimo voice their thoughts, I like them a lot more.  They really are smart players who've been paying attention.

 

They're obviously SMART, they're just kind of useless. 

[Rodney]

Ooh!  Angela is telling Tucker about the Collective.

Tucker had a non-reaction and just started talking about something else.  Angela is pledging her loyalty again.

. . . But she still thinks that the Collective was a fake alliance.  If she gets evicted pre-jury (God forbid), then I hope that Julie sets her straight.  Or if not she, then some interviewer.

Angela talks one-on-one with Rubina next.  She promises her that if she's still on the block against Cedric, then she has no problem breaking a tie against his favor, since he put her on the block and it's a game.

[Rodney]

7 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

They're obviously SMART, they're just kind of useless. 

*headdesk*  They're playing, people!  That's not useless!

[Callaphera]

23 minutes ago, Rodney said:

Oh, no.  Leah is crying in the HoH room and being comforted by Angela and Makensy. 

She is worried that she is coming across "a certain way."  She just used the words "argumentative" and "rude."  No idea if I missed something last night or not, but she said that she was thinking about it last night.  Maybe she's worried about all the shit that she's been talking about Quinn?

Cam called her argumentative this morning. Leah has fought back against the allegations by being whiny and argumentative.

I think Leah has officially gotten the ick for every guy she tried to use her flirting game with. Except Tucker of course. Everybody Loves Raymond Tucker, coming to CBS this fall.

Edited August 14 by Callaphera

[Lamb18]

Leah and Rubina are whispering in the pink pony room. Leah definitely wants Rubina to stay. Leah wants to vote Makensy out because people are always linking Leah with Makensy, like they're a unit, so people don't tell her things. She wants to separated from Makensy. Leah says she refuses to go down as the Robin to a Batman. Leah wants Rubina to play her game and give her to be an indivual in this game. Leah is crying a little. She doesn't want Rubina to fall into the background. Rubina says she doesn't know why Leah feels this way and feels she (Rubina) does not reserve. Rubina says Leah has gotten her from the Day One.

The house guests call the pink pony room the Flower Room. A bunch of people are in the Pandora Room (?). Which room is that?

Joseph is backing Cedric. They are both in the HOH room, Joseph updating Cedric on his campaign. He was Rubina hasn't talked to him at all. Joseph says Makensy knows she has to win or else "her ass is grass."

[Rodney]

Uh-oh.  Leah is talking shit about Quinn's nominations to Rubina and how it made no sense to have Tucker up first and then Rubina after.  She's about to explain the whole game to Rubina, because she's made a whole web of the house and understands things.

Leah tells Rubina that if Quinn is HoH next week, then he would nominate Tucker, Rubina, and Angela, so why the hell would she vote out Rubina and put herself in the line of fire?  Same with Cedric, so why would she want to get rid of Rubina and be a Cedric nominee instead?

Leah is now saying that the house plans to get rid of Makensy if she's left on the block in any combination, and that she already told Makensy that if that's the vibe, then "Sorry, queen," and she's voting her out.  Says she's not getting crucified for voting the wrong way like she did in the first week.

Ugh.  So the flip is apparently only going to happen if Makensy wins the AI Arena.  If Rubina does, then Cedric will be spared, and Makensy will be evicted.  Makensy needs to win this AI Arena for us to have a chance at the Cedric boot.

Moving on.

Leah is pissed about how people are trying to tie Rubina to Tucker and that she refuses to vote out Rubina based on something like that.  She says to not even start with her about targeting someone as Tucker's number, because she will go off.  I hope we get that one day, because she talks a pretty big game, but then doesn't really do any confrontation.

It's been five minutes, and Leah just said, ". . . And that's number one."

Oh, boy.  She has more.

Edited August 14 by Rodney

[Rodney]

Fortunately, we're spared some Leah rantings.

Cedric seems frazzled.  He's walking through the house, trying to figure out where everyone is and says everyone is being sneaky today.  Leah and Rubina in the flower room, Cam and Quinn in the bathroom, Brooklyn missing, Kimo, T'kor, Angela, and someone else in the sky room, Tucker in the Diary Room, Chelsie watching the dining room, and Cedric going up to campaign to Joseph with all four cams on this.

Rubina and Leah were lightly crying to each other about how wonderful they and their stories are.  Blah, blah, blah.  Rubina said that the theme of the season is more than meets the eye, because Leah is not just a Miami girl.

Joseph confirms that he'll be useless to this possible flip as he tells Cedric that he is voting to keep him, because Cedric didn't use him as a pawn during his HoH and respected Joseph's wishes.  He then warns Cedric that he talked to Leah, and she told him that Cedric hadn't campaigned to her, so there's that.  Joseph is recapping his mind-blowingly epic strategy of telling people that he won't vote Cedric out, because he didn't get used as a pawn.  They were about to dash out, and Joseph suggested that they stay in the HoH room a little longer so that people didn't get suspicious that their conversation was so quick.

No one is paying attention to you, Joseph!

Joseph asked Chelsie if Brooklyn feels like she's at the bottom of the Collective, becasue she was the last person brought in.  Chelsie asks if she even knows that, and says that she and Brooklyn "honestly don't even talk like that."

Joseph knows that Chelsie just lied to his face. 

Edited August 14 by Rodney

[peachmangosteen]

I'm gonna need MJ to win AI Arena so there's a chance Ced goes. Sure, it's a .01% chance, but it's something!

[Rodney]

Some talk between Tucker and Cedric now.

Tucker tells Cedric that if it’s he on the block vs. Makensy, then he’s good.  He says if it’s he vs. Rubina, then it’s a split.  Says he believes that Cedric will win the AI Arena, anyway, and then talking about next week and nomination options and such.  He said if the HoH Competition comes down to two of them, and Cedric throws it to him, then he’d count on that.  He then would put someone up for Cedric, because he’s already a loose cannon and no one would believe that the nomination came from Cedric.

Yes, I’m sure that Tucker is bullshitting Cedric in their talk.  He even basically told him that he may have to put him up as a pawn, so I think that they’re just being nice to one another while having zero intention of working with the other.

Cedric is irritated because Leah went past him while he was talking to Tucker and went into the HoH room with Angela instead, and he wanted to campaign to her.  Leah said to give her five minute, which means Angela won’t get a word in edgewise, and Leah will finish maybe two sentences.

In the HoH room, Leah starts with how she loves Makensy, but will vote her out, anyway.  She says that no one on the block is a threat to Leah, but for Angela, the one who has a reason to target her is Makensy (over Matt, whom she knew all of one week).  Leah and Joseph are going on the wrong side on the vote, while meanwhile, Quinn, T'kor, and Kimo are considering going the right way.

Leah talks some more, and then, when Angela starts trying to respond, we lose the feed!

Cedric and Brooklyn are talking about keeping Kimo and T'kor in line if Makensy wins the AI Arena.  She says that if they vote Cedric out, then it proves that they aren’t there for the Collective.  They’re here for their own game (which they should be there to play).

Makensy has been a dud as a player, save for using her America's Veto, but man, am I rooting hard for her to win this competition for anything interesting to happen tomorrow.

Leah apparently told Angela something in confidence and she agreed not to tell. Angela was saying that if she wins and it’s the other two, then she's very obligated to --

And it cuts.  I can’t tell if Angela is trying to let Leah know that booting Cedric is an option, because they keep cutting away.  I think she is, since she told Rubina that, but I don't know.

[Rodney]

Leah tells Angela that she's doing a great job and is really proud of her redeeming herself.  And she was talking game about it being a good thing if Makensy or Rubina stays for them.  Angela must be absolutely, deliriously happy inside that someone chose to talk game with her.  Leah has been one of the nicer people to her after everything.

I do think she's trying to advocate more so for Makensy.  Or at least it sounds like it.

[Rodney]

I hate how paint by numbers these houseguests assume this game is.  Or, really, just the Pentagon members.  Brooklyn is telling Cedric that this week is probably the wall, and once one of them wins, they’ll boot Tucker, and then Angela makes the jury.  But it’s okay, because it’ll be a double, and they can get rid of her then.

I hope they shake it up on these people.

Brooklyn tells Cedric in the unicorn room that she really believes that they can keep the Pentagon hidden until F8, because no one knows about them.  Never mind that in the last few hours, Kimo and T'kor were talking about the Pentagon by name in this very room!  Ha!

Later, Cedric pitched pretty basic stuff to Kimo and T'kor about how he loves them, and if he goes home, then he goes home knowing that he did what he could, etc.  He says that they’re almost to the point where they can lock in a group and coast.  He says that if they want something now, then he’d lock it in!

T'kor asked him about next week, but all he’s done is talk about the wall competition and beating Tucker in it.

Quinn later downloads to T'kor and Kimo about someone telling him how they could lean on their votes, because they feel like they’re in the group, and laughing about how they don’t know that T'kor and Kimo realize what’s really going on.

Oh!  Seems like they were talking trash about Brooklyn.  (Yes!)  They were saying that she was discussing being a competitor and also how she’s a free agent, and Kimo said, “We know that’s garbage.”

Edited August 14 by Rodney

[peachmangosteen]

I've read a few things today that make me think Kimo is over Brooklyn, which I am loving. People are really catching onto her. I need her nominated. She'll lose it lol.