S02.E05: Crown Vic

[Yogisbooboo64]

Heightened police presence threatens Tommy and Diamond's bottom line, and they form a coalition with a rival gang; Jenard hits rock bottom, and the Flynn family loyalties are tested with devastating results.

[Yogisbooboo64]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

(Searches for punchbowl, unable to find one so....)

 

No they didn’t!!  They…did…NOT…kill…my…Paulie!!  I was going to wait until I got home to watch tonight but noooo, I hadda do a watch at midnight, knowing full well that I was going to suffer at work by yawning the next day. 

It’s been a year since Liliana was killed and while her death still stings, I was just coming to grips with it when…..THESE MUHFUCKAS KILLED PAULIE!  MY PAULIE!!  GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!  I’ma miss you Guy Van Swearingen, with your sexy ass.

I’m also gonna miss swooning over Tommy Flanagan’s very hot Scottish brogue.  I was sure Vic would get killed, wasn’t expecting Walter and Paulie. 

Claudia, you faked assed Lucky Santangelo, I hope Tommy puts a cap in your bony ass!  Dang, but she’s cold as ice, 1 minute riding that cute Doyle from Dublin and betraying not only her Da but her own brother?  And then shooting Doyle in the head to get Vic off her betraying scent (though he knows she sold him out)?

Oh Vic….you must want to die quickly, the nanosecond Tommy finds out you are a rat, he’s gonna cancel Christmas on your ass.

When Mireya’s doctor boo put his hands on her and Miguel saw it, I thought he’d be a goner for sure.  But, he just got both hands hurt, lucky you didn’t lose your life!

For a second I thought Jenard was going to have sex with the junkie in the car, he’s so far gone from taking that shit.  I like him re-joining Tommy and Diamond, though I’m sure Tommy’s going to keep an eye on him 24/7.

I’d love it if Cash turned out to be one of D-Mac’s roomies at the place he was taken to by Big Smurf.  He should be old enough by now.

Poor Kate….too bad she has a big mouth, otherwise she would have been put in the plan.

[mxc90]

"He Gone" should have the title of the episode instead of "Crown Vic". See ya and good riddance Walter. Also, See ya Paulie, Big Sid, Kendall's career (can't use those hands for a while), Dumbass Doyle, Mr. Mighty Big Red Apocalypse.  

One Flynn down. Two more to go!!! 

All we get with Bennigan's plot is "He is a dirty cop....CPD won't be looking for Him". That was just wrapped up in one line. Couldn't bother show us what Diamond did with the body. Dirty cop or not CPD will be looking for him and they want their police car back. 

I got nervous for Jenard. When he got into the car, I thought he was going to drop his head in the White Boy's lap to pay for the drugs. Whew, it was just for the necklace.

That "White Boy" junkie looked a little like Tommy.

Manny gets robbed for the drugs and chain by Jenard and doesn't bother run out after he leaves to alert the rest to get him. I'm sure they were all strapped. Jenard shouldn't have gotten out alive.

I knew this show was cruel.  No way "10 day sober Kate" was going to be clean for a season. She kept coke in drawer all that time and never got the urge. It should have been flushed down the toilet during her sober period. The Coke said: "Hello Kate! We meet again."

Not sure why Tommy and JP couldn't be honest with her and say he was alive and not give the impression they killed him. They didn't have to mention he killed a cop. Just say he was sent to "Great Shores" to get away from the streets. How would Kate mess that up?

Isn't JP wrong when he said "Kate didn't raise them". Kate did have Tommy in Queens.

What's with Power having sons kill their fathers.

What was the point of shooting up the diner? Couldn't they just send out flyers or make a statement on TikTok to announce their new affiliation?

Tommy got his car back. Someone in Chicago does fast work getting the bullets out.

DMac wore that yellow shirt for two days. So, he was going to see Genesis, not showered and didn't get the line and fade she requested. No way she can give him another shot after this.

Tseng wanted 10 more minutes with Vic. He wasn't getting anywhere.

Why is Kilo wearing an "Inmate" ID badge in his cell as if we didn't know?

So, Dr. Kendall has been dating Mireya all that time and never meet Miguel. I guess the relationship wasn't real to her if she didn't introduce him to her family.

Mireya is bad news. She tried to get Tommy killed by a train and now she got Kendall's hands broken.

Mireya is worried about life being short and breaks up with Kendall. As if, now being with Tommy is going to be good for her health.

Doyle wants a celebration fuck and the job wasn't done. He is considered to be Dublin's finest??!!! Claudia is nasty! She wore that same dress and never cleaned up after being with Doyle.

This is the second time Claudia murdered someone in her apartment, who is she paying to get rid of bodies???

This is the second time Shanti had to ask Jenard if he is on drugs. I thought she had her ears to the streets. Everyone else knows he is high on the supply.

The hit on Walter was moved up a half hour due to the fog. That night looked perfectly clear. Who gave Doyle/Big Red bad weather information? The show couldn't afford a "Fog Machine"? And shouldn't "fog" be their ally as they are sneaking up on Walter?

Paulie went out loyal to Walter. Came over and apologized for his fuck up. You had your chance to get away Paulie! 

Did JP forget the times DMac came by to shoot up his bar. Now he is blaming Tommy for his behavior. Dmac was already screwed up. Also, it was JP's fault for not hiding the gun in a safe place and not leaving it in the drawer.

Big Red the Great Assassin had to make enough big noise to alert Walter that the Fools are here. The Four Horsemen and the Apocalypse didn't represent Ireland well. Who is next to be sent to embarrassed themselves.

When Walter was getting the guns, he left first, and Vic and Paulie had a talk. Then we see Vic and Paulie walk outside and later Walter grand appearance. Was Walter in the house taking a dump or finishing his meal and drink during the shooting or calling his lawyer to take out Caludia and Vic from his will?

I hope Vic erased the security footage of him shooting Walter.

Stacy found out about Walter's death the next day by getting a text and reading the news. With her high-ranking position, she should have known that night.

Edited September 30, 2023 by mxc90

[mxc90]

45 minutes ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

It’s been a year since Liliana was killed and while her death still stings

Not a year. When this season started, they said it was two days since her death. I guess it's been a month where they are now.

51 minutes ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

I like him re-joining Tommy and Diamond, though I’m sure Tommy’s going to keep an eye on him 24/7.

Rejoining Diamond, I doubt Jenard will ever trust or like working with Tommy. The rest of his crew and maybe Shanti will turn on him.

[Yogisbooboo64]

5 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Not a year. When this season started, they said it was two days since her death. I guess it's been a month where they are now.

I guess I'm looking at it like last year was Season One.

5 hours ago, mxc90 said:

Not sure why Tommy and JP couldn't be honest with her and say he was alive and not give the impression they killed him. They didn't have to mention he killed a cop. Just say he was sent to "Great Shores" to get away from the streets. How would Kate mess that up?

Heh, we're talking about Kate Egan....well meaning in a nutty way but yeah, she wouldn't have been able to keep this secret, she would have tried to visit D-Mac and with the cops on Tommy and Co., it wouldn't have ended well.

[AntFTW]

I don’t know what to think about this episode. I wouldn’t have guessed a couple of episodes ago that this would have been the way Papa Flynn would have died. It seems a bit anticlimactic.

The interactions between Diamond and Big Sid was kinda funny to me. For someone that’s on his way out, he had more than enough energy for talking shit. 😂

Watching Jenard spiral has been fun. It’s been probably been the most entertaining parts of the episodes for me.

DMac keeps reminding me of a game of Monopoly. He just wants to hang out with this girl that he likes, and the universe just won’t let him. It’s like he gets close and he always pulls the card that says “Do not pass go, do not collect $200.” 😂

So Diamond knew to call Shanti to get a message to Jenard, so I guess he knows there is something between them. 🤔

On 9/29/2023 at 10:50 AM, Yogisbooboo64 said:

For a second I thought Jenard was going to have sex with the junkie in the car, he’s so far gone from taking that shit.

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

I got nervous for Jenard. When he got into the car, I thought he was going to drop his head in the White Boy's lap to pay for the drugs.

Not gonna lie, I thought so too 👀

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

So, Dr. Kendall has been dating Mireya all that time and never meet Miguel. I guess the relationship wasn't real to her if she didn't introduce him to her family.

To be fair, that may be for the best. It seems like meeting her family ever turns out good. Dr. Kendall’s hands are exhibits A and B 😂

So I guess we’re just waiting for Miguel to figure out that Mireya is dating Tommy, and for Tommy to have to kill Miguel because Tommy wants to cut out Miguel because Tommy wants to be the connect.

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

Isn't JP wrong when he said "Kate didn't raise them". Kate did have Tommy in Queens.

I guess that depends on who you ask. Didn’t Tommy say that Kate used to get high all the time so she wasn’t around much or am I making that up? 🤔

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

The hit on Walter was moved up a half hour due to the fog. That night looked perfectly clear. Who gave Doyle/Big Red bad weather information? The show couldn't afford a "Fog Machine"? And shouldn't "fog" be their ally as they are sneaking up on Walter?

I completely forgot they said the “fog” thing. There was no fog at all 😂

I keep thinking throughout this show, why no one owns a sniper rifle? Every time someone orders a hit, the hit man has to get up close and personal.

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

Manny gets robbed for the drugs and chain by Jenard and doesn't bother run out after he leaves to alert the rest to get him. I'm sure they were all strapped. Jenard shouldn't have gotten out alive.

I hate calling bullshit on the writing but they just make it so easy.

This had to be the easiest robbery in the Power universe. After Jenard exits the truck, Manny just sits there and says nothing? Jenard just walks into this neighborhood where he’s not supposed to be, and no one has eyes on him? Jenard is able to take his time and walk out of this area with no struggle?

What the fuck…?

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

This is the second time Claudia murdered someone in her apartment, who is she paying to get rid of bodies???

Her cleaning lady must be amazing!!!

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

Stacy found out about Walter's death the next day by getting a text and reading the news. With her high-ranking position, she should have known that night.

She wants Vic to infiltrate CBI in order for Vic to get immunity. I’m sure the Power will somehow make it happen but if my memory is correct, they’ve spent one and a half seasons letting us know that the Flynns and CBI don’t fuck with each other. She’s sending Vic into an impossible mission that will probably be made possible by writers of the Power universe.

On 9/29/2023 at 10:50 AM, Yogisbooboo64 said:

I like him re-joining Tommy and Diamond, though I’m sure Tommy’s going to keep an eye on him 24/7.

On 9/29/2023 at 11:43 AM, mxc90 said:

Rejoining Diamond, I doubt Jenard will ever trust or like working with Tommy. The rest of his crew and maybe Shanti will turn on him.

Jenard is a junkie now so he might get high on Tommy’s supply.

I think Jenard is not going to like being subordinate to Diamond and Tommy.

I can see Jenard’s other people in his Treason  “organization” being willing to go along because they already see Jenard is fucking up, and they aren’t making any money with Jenard.

I guess this is a part of building that coalition that Diamond talked about.

On 9/29/2023 at 11:32 AM, mxc90 said:

Not sure why Tommy and JP couldn't be honest with her and say he was alive and not give the impression they killed him. They didn't have to mention he killed a cop. Just say he was sent to "Great Shores" to get away from the streets. How would Kate mess that up?

21 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

Heh, we're talking about Kate Egan....well meaning in a nutty way but yeah, she wouldn't have been able to keep this secret, she would have tried to visit D-Mac and with the cops on Tommy and Co., it wouldn't have ended well.

I don’t see how they would tell Kate that DMac was at this Youth Academy without telling her the full truth. She would need to understand why he’s there and why he needs to stay there. I also think that she would have tried to visit DMac or reach out to him in some way, and DMac would have gotten Kate to get him back in Chicago. If Kate doesn’t understand that DMac killed a cop and DMac will die if he comes back to Chicago, Kate will help Dmac come back to Chicago if he asks her.

If Kate can’t keep a secret, then it’s best not to tell her.

Edited September 30, 2023 by AntFTW

[mxc90]

8 hours ago, AntFTW said:

DMac keeps reminding me of a game of Monopoly. He just wants to hang out with this girl that he likes, and the universe just won’t let him. It’s like he gets close and he always pulls the card that says “Do not pass go, do not collect $200.” 😂

He was better off not seeing her that night. He wore that yellow shirt and outfit for a few days. I doubt he showered. His abduction spared her from the stench.

8 hours ago, AntFTW said:

So Diamond knew to call Shanti to get a message to Jenard, so I guess he knows there is something between them.

He knows she is part of Treason. Maybe doesn't know the romantic involvement.

8 hours ago, AntFTW said:

To be fair, that may be for the best. It seems like meeting her family ever turns out good. Dr. Kendall’s hands are exhibits A and B 😂

So I guess we’re just waiting for Miguel to figure out that Mireya is dating Tommy, and for Tommy to have to kill Miguel because Tommy wants to cut out Miguel because Tommy wants to be the connect.

If Mireya had introduced him to Miguel earlier, maybe Miguel would have been nice and struck just one hand.

I think Jenard knows Miguel is diabetic. Some way that will play in Miguel's downfall.

9 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I guess that depends on who you ask. Didn’t Tommy say that Kate used to get high all the time so she wasn’t around much or am I making that up? 🤔

He did. As dysfunctional as Kate is, you never heard Ghost say a bad word against her or has Tommy ever got physical with her. Tommy could have abandoned/never communicated with her when he got grown and moved out. So, his upbringing couldn't have been that bad as he is portraying it. I don't think Tommy had father figure.

9 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I completely forgot they said the “fog” thing. There was no fog at all 😂

I keep thinking throughout this show, why no one owns a sniper rifle? Every time someone orders a hit, the hit man has to get up close and personal.

Could Big Red be afraid of the Fog. He must have watched "The Fog" or "The Mist" on the plane ride from Dublin and gotten spooked.

Walter was sitting in the perfect place right behind the window for a sniper. Just sayin!!!!!

9 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I hate calling bullshit on the writing but they just make it so easy.

This had to be the easiest robbery in the Power universe. After Jenard exits the truck, Manny just sits there and says nothing? Jenard just walks into this neighborhood where he’s not supposed to be, and no one has eyes on him? Jenard is able to take his time and walk out of this area with no struggle?

What the fuck…?

Jenard arrived wearing Gucci. No fear on his part.

Manny must be secured with her position to let two bricks get away and not fear the consequences. Whoever is in charge of that crew must be an "Understanding/Loving" boss. If this was Miguel's crew, "tongues" would be taken.

10 hours ago, AntFTW said:

Her cleaning lady must be amazing!!!

Taking out the trash in a barrel. No curiosity from the front desk.

Front desk Guard: Let me hold the door for you!

10 hours ago, AntFTW said:

She wants Vic to infiltrate CBI in order for Vic to get immunity. I’m sure the Power will somehow make it happen but if my memory is correct, they’ve spent one and a half seasons letting us know that the Flynns CBI don’t fuck with each other. She’s sending Vic into an impossible mission that will probably be made possible by writers of the Power universe.

I guess Vic could use excuse: Now Walter is gone, he has taken over the family business and now wants to work with CBI. Anyway, this is the beginning of Vic's end.

10 hours ago, AntFTW said:

Jenard is a junkie now so he might get high on Tommy’s supply.

I think Jenard is not going to like being subordinate to Diamond and Tommy.

I can see Jenard’s other people in his Treason “organization” being willing to go along because they already see Jenard is fucking up, and they aren’t making any money with Jenard.

I guess this is a part of building that coalition that Diamond talked about.

Jenard will go along for a while, but he will be back to his jealous ways.

I just wonder who will be with him. He can't do it alone.

10 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I don’t see how they would tell Kate that DMac was at this Youth Academy without telling her the full truth. She would need to understand why he’s there and why he needs to stay there. I also think that she would have tried to visit DMac or reach out to him in some way, and DMac would have gotten Kate to get him back in Chicago. If Kate doesn’t understand that DMac killed a cop and DMac will die if he comes back to Chicago, Kate will help Dmac come back to Chicago if he asks her.

If Kate can’t keep a secret, then it’s best not to tell her.

Too bad Kate! Your efforts to go to group therapy and regain their trust was all for nothing. 

21 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

I guess I'm looking at it like last year was Season One.

Sorry. I thought you talking Show Timeline.

[AntFTW]

6 minutes ago, mxc90 said:

Too bad Kate! Your efforts to go to group therapy and regain their trust was all for nothing.

At least with regard to DMac, they know Kate is weak when it comes to DMac. This episode shows why.

Granted, Kate didn't know why Tommy wanted DMac to stay in the house, but DMac told her that Tommy wouldn't let him leave. Dmac tells her about a girl he likes, and she caves.

[mxc90]

1 hour ago, AntFTW said:

At least with regard to DMac, they know Kate is weak when it comes to DMac. This episode shows why.

Granted, Kate didn't know why Tommy wanted DMac to stay in the house, but DMac told her that Tommy wouldn't let him leave. Dmac tells her about a girl he likes, and she caves.

At least, she was thoughtful and told him to buy protection with what was left of the money after buying her the Newports. 

Edited September 30, 2023 by mxc90

[Joimiaroxeu]

Things are desperate when you have to beg your gang to stay loyal. Jenard can't be long for this world, and he's going to get his crew killed too unless they go the Ides of March on him first.

"As long as your brother's alive, you'll never be queen." Oops, Brendan accidentally gave Claudia huge incentive to kill Vic after they took out Walter.

Paulie died for nothing, out there trying to act like Tony Montana. But wow, worst hitters ever. They all ended up dead and Walter was still standing. Well, at least he was until he trash-talked Vic to his face.

Apparently White Boy the street dealer didn't know who Jenard was. Interesting. I thought Jenard was a big deal among the Chicago gangs.

Was Dr. Kendall not aware Mireya's brother was a notorious criminal? He should've stayed far away from her. Now his career as a surgeon is finished too because Miguel misread the situation between him and Mireya.

So does Diamond think Tommy actually killed D'Mac? Tommy was rather vague about what "gone" meant.

Lol, Tommy told Kate to shut up or she could be "gone" too. Only she thought he was talking about killing her. Seems like JP knows the truth about Darnell though.

Oh Diamond, you don't want Jenard back mixed up in your business. He's wrecking everything he touches now. Either the drugs will end him or Tommy will.

AUSA Stacy may have just signed Vic's death warrant because Vic ain't taking down Tommy. Plus, she doesn't know it was Vic who murdered his father, not the Irish gang. His #1 incentive is to get Claudia before she succeeds in getting him.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Joimiaroxeu

[Scarlett45]

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Was Dr. Kendall not aware Mireya's brother was a notorious criminal? He should've stayed far away from her. Now his career as a surgeon is finished too because Miguel misread the situation between him and Mireya.

 

I don’t think Miguel misread anything. The way he grabbed Mireya wasn’t okay (it was clear it wasn’t consentual and aggressive), but in Miguel’s world wasn’t worth killing him over or totally destroying him (he’s still a Dr, he can still practice, but yes surgery is done for). That was a “warning”.

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

His #1 incentive is to get Claudia before she succeeds in getting him.

Yup. 

On 9/30/2023 at 3:30 AM, AntFTW said:

The interactions between Diamond and Big Sid was kinda funny to me. For someone that’s on his way out, he had more than enough energy for talking shit. 😂

I thought so too. But he looked awful! So the makeup people did a great job. 

On 9/29/2023 at 9:50 AM, Yogisbooboo64 said:

For a second I thought Jenard was going to have sex with the junkie in the car, he’s so far gone from taking that shit.  I like him re-joining Tommy and Diamond, though I’m sure Tommy’s going to keep an eye on him 24/7.

I thought so too. They were really leaning into that look, them in the car and then getting high together and sharing needles. Please don’t let Jenard be HIV+ by the end of this season- I don’t trust the show to handle that well. But they can surprise me. 

[AntFTW]

8 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

"As long as your brother's alive, you'll never be queen." Oops, Brendan accidentally gave Claudia huge incentive to kill Vic after they took out Walter.

8 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

His #1 incentive is to get Claudia before she succeeds in getting him.

I just keep thinking that Claudia had the opportunity to kill her brother, at the same time she popped one in Brendan's head. She could have did Vic right then and there. I guess she's not cold enough to pull the trigger on Vic herself.

[Joimiaroxeu]

11 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I don’t think Miguel misread anything. The way he grabbed Mireya wasn’t okay (it was clear it wasn’t consentual and aggressive), but in Miguel’s world wasn’t worth killing him over or totally destroying him (he’s still a Dr, he can still practice, but yes surgery is done for). That was a “warning”.

Yes, grabbing Mireya was definitely not right but I saw it as a heat of the moment thing because he wasn't expecting Mireya to dump him suddenly. I think Miguel read it as Dr. Kendall having a pattern of being abusive and that was why Mireya broke up with him. IMO Miguel way overreacted on limited information and could've just beat the guy up instead destroying his career as a surgeon.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Joimiaroxeu

[Scarlett45]

9 hours ago, AntFTW said:

I just keep thinking that Claudia had the opportunity to kill her brother, at the same time she popped one in Brendan's head. She could have did Vic right then and there. I guess she's not cold enough to pull the trigger on Vic herself.

Well Claudia does love her brother. She wants to be Queen, but he hasn’t hurt and mistreated her like their father did. If he died in the crossfire she would use that to further her career, but that’s a very different thing than pulling the trigger and seeing his blood spill herself. 

[luckyroll3]

On 10/2/2023 at 9:25 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Yes, grabbing Mireya was definitely not right but I saw it as a heat of the moment thing because he wasn't expecting Mireya to dump him suddenly. I think Miguel read it as Dr. Kendall having a pattern of being abusive and that was why Mireya broke up with him. IMO Miguel way overreacted on limited information and could've just beat the guy up instead destroying his career as a surgeon.

When doesn't Miguel overreact?????? Kendall could have sneezed on her without covering his mouth and Miguel would have cut off his nose in response.