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Violet: 24 Years Before the Heist


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That was dark. I really hope that Hannah is revealed to be the actually mastermind. I really want her to get a win. 

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I think Lily died.  That was so sad.  I guess being down in "the cave" she didn't smell the smoke until it was too late.  I suppose Ray was blamed for the fire as well as his thefts catching up with him.  I can see how he'd blame himself too.  If he hadn't agreed to do the job there would have been no fire and Lily would have lived. 

I'm surprised she knew about Ray's career as a thief.  Usually on tv the husband will try to keep it a secret.  Poor Hannah. 

Gah.  I hate the format.  I so want to talk context!

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4th episode watched.

That was the best one so far.  Yeah, the hair & makeup was weird, but we got the gist.

Bonus musical points for The Verve, but minus points for calling the song "Praise You" instead of the correct "Bitter Sweet Symphony". 

And Super Extra bonus points for NO BOB.   Thank goodness.  

I'm glad Lily knew about Ray's burglaries, before he opened the shop.  I also hate the clueless spouse trope, who only finds out after their partner is arrested that they were a criminal.  Ava wouldn't have found a foster family for Hannah if Lily had been alive. 

So often it's the smoke inhalation rather than the fire that kills folks.  Poor Ray having to watch her die.  G. Esposito is such a pro at the emotional  stuff.

Is it just me, or does he sometimes sound like Morgan Freeman?

 

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I can't get over how bad the special effects to make Giancarlo Esposito look "young" are. It was distracting. His makeup looked only slightly better than the gangsters from the Dick Tracy movie from the 90s. 

Also anyone rocking that hard to Sugar Ray -- I don't care if you pulled off a heist, there is no excuse for that musical bs, Rufus Sewell's terrible wig! -- is a clear villain. 

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This was my third one and I liked how it didn't go where I expected. I was expecting just a straight double cross where Ray's partner sells him out either to the cops or someone more dangerous. But Ray wanted back in when his business was failing and his wife got fired and he chose to rob the club. Even the guy not saving his wife wasn't super cut and dry.

On 1/8/2023 at 4:54 PM, leighdear said:

Bonus musical points for The Verve, but minus points for calling the song "Praise You" instead of the correct "Bitter Sweet Symphony". 

Do they play different music based on the episode order? Because in the one I watched they were definitely playing Praise You by Fatboy Slim when Ray was cracking the safe and Roger was downstairs with the girls and the guy they were robbing.

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