S16.E18: Give a Little Bit

[ams1001]

33 minutes ago, WinJet0819 said:

What also bugs me to death about this show is how there are no actual ER physicians. Everyone in a form of power has to be a surgeon.

That always bugs me, too. The surgeons there do everything. When the plane crashed, it was Owen who had arranged the thing. No, the head of surgery is not dealing with transportation arrangements for other surgeons. The chief of surgery seems to be in charge of the whole hospital and it makes no sense. And yes, "emergency medicine" is a specialty that people go into. They are the ones who staff the "emergency department." Gah.

[WinJet0819]

9 hours ago, ams1001 said:

That always bugs me, too. The surgeons there do everything. When the plane crashed, it was Owen who had arranged the thing. No, the head of surgery is not dealing with transportation arrangements for other surgeons. The chief of surgery seems to be in charge of the whole hospital and it makes no sense. And yes, "emergency medicine" is a specialty that people go into. They are the ones who staff the "emergency department." Gah.

Or like seeing Richard having to be the one responsible laying off nurses back in Season 6. No Chief of Surgery does that. Their responsibility is to oversee the surgeons. Not the staffing of other departments.

And there are 3 other medical dramas that properly show the hierarchy of a hospital in Chicago Med, The Resident and New Amsterdam. ER also did it right. You have your emergency physicians who will bring in a surgeon for a consult if needed. And there's a director or chief of services or CEO that overseas all departments from nurses to ER physicians to surgeons.

Every time I watch Grey's, I just roll my eyes every time I see surgical interns and surgeons working the ER or waiting for an incoming ambulance.

Edited March 22, 2020 by WinJet0819

[ElectricBoogaloo]

7 hours ago, WinJet0819 said:

Every time I watch Grey's, I just roll my eyes every time I see surgical interns and surgeons working the ER or waiting for an incoming ambulance.

And the stupid thing is that Grey's doesn't have to be this inaccurate. They are constantly bringing in new characters (like Cormac this season, Linc and Nico last season) so they could just make someone the head of the ER. When they brought in new people from the crappy hospital that Katherine bought, they could have included a few ER doctors and then they would interact with the surgeons we already know. Instead they bring in a million more interns, each more annoying, useless, and forgettable as the next (as always, Casey Parker is exempt from my intern complaints - please come back soon and continue being quietly awesome!).

Edited March 22, 2020 by ElectricBoogaloo

[readster]

41 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

And the stupid thing is that Grey's doesn't have to be this inaccurate. They are constantly bringing in new characters (like the Cormac this season, Linc and Nico last season) so they could just make someone the head of the ER. When they brought in new people from the crappy hospital that Katherine bought, they could have included a few ER doctors and then they would interact with the surgeons we already know. Instead they bring in a million more interns, each more annoying, useless, and forgettable as the next (as always, Casey Parker is exempt from my intern complaints - please come back soon and continue being quietly awesome!).

Right and when they DID have a "board" they were the biggest set of morons too. I mean the plane crash was the biggest example of How NOT to run a hospital. That's what has made NO SENSE on the show. They had surgeons doing anything and IF there are other doctors or higher ups. They come across as morons or people you just ask of HOW they ever got into the medical field. Like that ONE head doctor in pysch they used on and off when Ben went mental or those "old" surgeons that Christina or Alex at times said: "They just need to retire." 

[Daisy]

9 hours ago, readster said:

Right and when they DID have a "board" they were the biggest set of morons too. I mean the plane crash was the biggest example of How NOT to run a hospital. That's what has made NO SENSE on the show. They had surgeons doing anything and IF there are other doctors or higher ups. They come across as morons or people you just ask of HOW they ever got into the medical field. Like that ONE head doctor in pysch they used on and off when Ben went mental or those "old" surgeons that Christina or Alex at times said: "They just need to retire." 

 

it's really like Shonda made a mistake - noone had the heart to correct her and now 16 seasons later....

[WinJet0819]

On 3/22/2020 at 4:40 PM, Daisy said:

 

it's really like Shonda made a mistake - noone had the heart to correct her and now 16 seasons later....

Yep, somebody needed to whisper in her ear: "Shonda, the chief of surgery only manages the surgeons, not the hospital. You also need to add emergency physician characters to work the pit and wait for ambulances bringing critical victims. Surgeons don't do everything."

[statsgirl]

1 hour ago, WinJet0819 said:

 Surgeons don't do everything."

They have on this show since the pilot episode. I remember fuming when they set the five brand new surgical residents to keep the five preemie babies alive as if there was no such thing as a neonatologist in that universe. Or really anyone who knew what they were doing. Nurses would have been better.

[readster]

9 hours ago, statsgirl said:

They have on this show since the pilot episode. I remember fuming when they set the five brand new surgical residents to keep the five preemie babies alive as if there was no such thing as a neonatologist in that universe. Or really anyone who knew what they were doing. Nurses would have been better.

Yep and it just never stopped. I even remember when they had the press conference and I was like: "Why the hell is Richard there?" Later on with Owen over the girl who escaped from 10 years of being assaulted. He would have NOTHING to do with it! Same with him saving money on the plane crash and then magically the board was: "Well, we need to hide this." Why? Even after they bought the hospital, they still don't run it realistically at all. It's like on the Good Doctor, they have the chain of command better structured on the show, but at times you go: "Why would he being calling the shots? That's not his job or area."

[RedbirdNelly]

14 hours ago, statsgirl said:

They have on this show since the pilot episode. I remember fuming when they set the five brand new surgical residents to keep the five preemie babies alive as if there was no such thing as a neonatologist in that universe. Or really anyone who knew what they were doing. Nurses would have been better.

I remember that. It just jumped out so much as not something they would do

[LeGrandElephant]

On 3/19/2020 at 7:31 PM, Bulldog said:

That human chain thing cannot be an actual hospital protocol. 

I don’t buy it. Are they telling us all these highly trained surgeons with million-dollar hands are supposed to play Red Rover with a psycho? What if the guy runs through the human chain and wrenches one of their hands and they can’t operate? No way is that protocol. I’m not sure it would make sense for non-surgeons either. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by LeGrandElephant

[readster]

34 minutes ago, LeGrandElephant said:

I don’t buy it. Are they telling us all these highly trained surgeons with million-dollar hands are supposed to play Red Rover with a psycho? 

The fact it should have been Carina talking Andrew down and doing everything, since she is HIS DAMN SISTER! And has had to go through it tons of time with their father, or did she just make up all those stories?