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Honestly, I thought the expression came from Oprah, which is probably why I didn't find it witchy or have much of a reaction to it. The phrase sounds so familiar it didn't ring as a negative to me.

But the premise is that the Bachelorette has 29 men competing for her affection and the Bachelorette can see all these men with their consent (and the premise is designed by producers, not the person being competed for). They go in knowing that's how it works, and that she can eliminate them at any time. In her case, her placement as the Bachelorette is upfront about this. I'm not really sure if Peter's reasoning was necessarily as upfront as the premise of the show itself (which, yeah, is sleazy, but there are no illusions about what you're getting into).

Maybe I just don't think she said it in a witchy way in general either. She said it the way I imagine a comment like that was meant to be said, as in "this is how I determine what my life is, not you." The words themselves call for some level of expression. Anytime I've seen someone say something like that, they tend to say it that particular way with some degree of emphasis. To say it in a flat manner of speaking (the way Peter seemed to be the whole evening) doesn't go with how the sentence is constructed, imo. On another note, I guess he looked a little depressed, and perhaps that makes people feel sorry for him, but I don't understand why any guy would go on THIS particular show if they think they can convince a woman not to want to get engaged. The women who go one this show go in with the mindset of nabbing a ring. The premise of the show is somewhat like the idea of going for an arranged marriage....except with, er, sex and televised loud open-mouthed kissing. Maybe she went for her second-choice, as people have speculated, but sometimes that happens with arrangements.

Maybe I think she sounded fine because I've seen so many way witchier women on this show. Peter did have a somber face on, so I tend to think anyone would have looked a little wound up next to him. But overall her demeanour seemed kind of poised by this show's standards of weeping women. If someone told me I was living a mediocre life, I'd have gotten more agitated than she did.

I had no idea 17 year old guys were into watching The Bachelor in 2004. So this revelation that he wrote about being on The Bachelor in his yearbook will continue to be funny to me, even if he was 17 when he wrote it.

Hilarious. I had no idea this is a thing guys actually aspired to. Weird.

Yeah, that's why I said that most people will probably hate Peter by the end of his season and that most people don't come out of this show looking good anyway.

They could get a really bad edit if they don't follow the producers wishes, I would assume. I'm just guessing though...I could be wrong. Though it's not like anyone ever comes out of this show looking good anyway. I'm surprised Peter has so many fans. I think the guys who go on this show are a little weird in general. I get why women would want to give it a try, but not so much with men. I figure that once he gets his own season everyone will be hating him by the end of it.

Wasn't the fairy-tale narrative of this show destroyed a long time ago? Anyone remember when Jason first picked Melissa, changed his mind, and then picked Molly?:

I don't know...I thought the delivery was fine. Unless you're gifted with a completely flat affect, I think it's impossible to say anything without some level of expression. Peter did seem somewhat flatter and lower energy, but then I wasn't sure if he was depressed and on Prozac. If he's going to be the next Bachelor anyway, I don't see anything wrong with her delivery or what she said.

I guess I can understand describing her as frosty or slightly icy. But angry, I don't get. I feel frosty is a different kind of descriptor from angry. When I think of angry, I think of Deanna from several seasons ago.

Like I said, I would have asked him the same question. By this show's standards, she seemed calm and perky to me. By real-life standards too, she seemed calm and perky to me. Whether she actually feels this way, I'm not sure, but her presentation for tv looked rational and composed.

I thought she asked him why he's feeling attacked because HE was the one who said he felt attacked. Honestly, I would have asked the same question, because she seemed so perky. I suppose I, too, was perplexed as to why he felt attacked since her general demeanour seemed nice enough to me. I have no idea which guy she's actually in love with as I did not watch the whole season, and pretty much everyone on this show is kind of fake anyway, but I thought she had a composed and calm demeanour. Whether she's masking other feelings, I have no idea. But her actual presentation struck me as calm, especially by this show's standards where people look like they're crying buckets or look like they want to shoot daggers. She might have been hyper-aware of how she should come across and maybe she has other feelings she might be hiding, but overall she seemed like a calm, rational person to me in terms of presentation. I didn't think she really let on how she felt in terms of anger (even if they might be hidden in her somewhat, based on the speculation everyone is posing about her feelings about Peter vs. Brian).

I thought the "I'm living my best life" comment was fine. I don't get what's so offensive about it. She didn't throw a dis at him -- she simply contradicted the "mediocre life" comment.

I didn't watch the whole season so I'm not sure what Rachel was like, but she didn't seem angry to be. She seemed kind of perky and peppy to me. I'm confused when people say she acted angry. This Peter fellow is handsome enough, but he seemed kind of depressed. I'm surprised he'd want to be the next Bachelor because he seemed somewhat melancholy about the process.

I do think Rafe is a hypocrite, but Dario's blackmailing of Abigail seems somewhat reminiscent of EJ, and I just can't fathom why he hasn't noticed that his brother is somewhat weird in that regard. I feel he should at least notice a little bit. Well, since he's a police officer and all. Maybe it's the fact that he hasn't noticed that's bothering me more than the possibility that Rafe might be an anomaly in his family.

Has it ever been explained how Dario turned out so different from Rafe? Ugh, has Rafe not noticed that his brother is a bit psycho?

Why is Gunnar in love with Scarlet? I never thought of her as a bad person, simply confused. But now I'm not so sure.

I find Dario somewhat annoying to look at. It's like he's simultaneously old and young looking at the same time, and it's distracting. Obviously, my post on this matter is pretty useless and pointless, but I had to get this off my mind. It was bothering me.

This actress is so different from KM I forgot why Kate would find Abigail preferable over...Gabi. Maybe if the dialogue brought up the fact that Abigail likes cheating with attached men and people related to Chad, Kate nosing into Chad's business would make more sense to me, but I can't tell if the writers want me to remember any of Abigail's past history. Also, Kate liking Gabi doesn't really make sense because of the Nick mess, so that doesn't help matters either. Although I suppose anybody is more likable than what KM's version of Abigail was like. This version of Abigail seems even less snooty and stuck-up than...Jennifer. Something about her seems actually humble? And I can't remotely imagine this version of Abigail actively going out of her way to sex up EJ in a shower. I mean, yeah, most women, in theory, might want to sleep with EJ as a hypothetical fantasy or whatever ...that I know...but this one seems like she does have actual self-restraint and wouldn't act on her imaginary temptation. She doesn't seem like a dog in heat like KM's version of Abigail was.

The actress playing Abigail now is so much less detestable than the last one, I actually found myself feeling a bit sorry for her when she overhead Chad's conversation. I was like, "What is wrong with me??" If KM were still in the role, I'd be laughing my head off with glee.

Did Abigail ever express interest in Dario? I find Dario positioning himself as a threat in the same vein as Gabi a little strange. I know Abigail has a certain reputation that precedes her, but I can't recall this version of Abigail being interested in anyone but Chad

I have no words to describe how much Laurel annoys me. Sure, some of it isn't her fault, but she's always casting fingers at everyone else. Well, looks like Wes would have been better off if he'd never slept with her. In the end, it seems it was her wackadoo family, not all the things they had to do to protect their hides, that marked his demise.

That prosecutor always seems like she's about to burst into tears or whine about something. Bugs me to no end.

Why DID Bonnie kill Rebecca? Like, what was the point? Why did she think it was a good idea? Frank's murders kind of made sense in that he was already a criminal to begin with and felt a sense of obligation to Sam. But no one was going to be doing the happy dance that Bonnie murdered Rebecca. Even if Analise is willing to cross ethical lines to protect her clients and proteges, I've never gotten the impression she's thrilled with murder. She clearly wasn't doing the happy dance when Sam died -- the only reason she covered it up is because she didn't want her young'uns or herself going to jail. I don't think Michaela really cares anymore if she ticks people off. Maybe Asher's sex isn't good at calming her down. That prosecutor has to be the most annoying prosecutor of all time. There's a desperation to her that I don't get - she seems desperate to have sex with Nate, she seems desperate to get back at Analise, she seems desperate to have lunch....I don't know ...something about her always seems weird. The weirdness I can forgive. The desperation, not so much.