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She's been with John 7/12 years, but it looks like she aged 15 years since they first started dating. He looks the same.

Agreed. I think that's what we're seeing on social media. It's easy to be a fan favorite if you are taking down Sonja, Lu, Ramona. But Tins is like kicking a puppy dog. She got way too full of herself for being loved that she didn't even see how this would go over so badly.

So when you watch RHONY when Dorinda joins, it's really interesting in retrospect. For someone who talks about she's finally mourning Richard, my God she was mourning Richard her first season. It never ends. She def. was not as mean. She was very relatable. The other thing that strikes me is that she came on in 2015, just five years ago. She looks like she aged 15 years since that time. She went from looking pretty youthful to looking like she could be a grandmother. There's an episode I think 2 season she was on, where she tells Luann she's been day drinking by herself. As we all know, she's got a real problem with alcohol.

I thought that was bad too. I enjoyed Carole burning the fuck out of the Beth bridge but why do that to Tinsely?

Right? I always wanted nice arms. And long legs. The arms of mine will always have those bat wings. I liked her when she was tamer her first couple of years. The Sonja of the last three or four seasons no.

Ha, I forgot about her lipo belly in the bikini! And the break implants. But nice legs and arms!

I think it's a combination of being a drunk and then being a reality star. She still thinks that people want to see her breaking bad on cast members. i suspect after all the grief she's getting about Tins, she'll end up next season having her redemption season. She won't be able to have an on screen apology to Tins, but I'll bet she has a nicer season where she blames the way she treated Tins on grief and BSM. I would say she'll pull a Lu and claim she's not drinking any more but will drink off camera, but I think she'd rather blame her behavior on grief and BSM stress versus coping to problems with alcohol.

Sonja had a stunning figure for so long. Still looks great. Getting older sucks! Before she went down the Grey Gardens path, she had such a charming personality. I could see why an older man met her as a hostess and fell for her.

RHONY is on now, and a couple of episodes ago, Dorinda said that her daughter told her she "met John too soon after Richard's death." Interesting since the season Carol and Dorinda went to London, she said that she met John through Richard who loved John. Makes me wonder if the truth is she met John after Richard's death and whether Richard and John ever were friends. Maybe she introduced it that way to make John sound like he'd run in Richard's league.

Ha, Sonja isn't fat, but she's def got some chunk on her now. And since she's managed to stay thin for so long, it's just a little shocking. But the bigger issue is what is going on with her face. The eyebrows are drawn on weird and it looks like the they are collapsing on her face.

This is totally off topic, but every time I see your avatar I think that Neurochick is so beautiful.

I just watched the episode with Dorinda and Carol in London and it was interesting: (1) She made it sound like London was all about Richard like they were the ones that spent the time there -- not that she lived there with her ex. (2) She said met John through Richard and that Richard loved John. (3) When Carol was talking about how her husband had cancer when they married and talked about it draining through the end, Dorinda makes it sound like Richard's illness was a long one. That his death was actually a relief b/c she finally slept. I always thought Richard's illness was not a long, drawn out one.

I'm sure Avery is too smart for this, but I'd love for a "daughters of" RHONY where the moms are the "friends of." Avery, Lu's kids, Dorinda's daughter. It could be a classier version of younger reality show and give the older RHO's a more graceful exit. They could add a few 30 something singletons. This show hasn't been had an actual housewife in ages. Most of the franchises too.

For sure. I do think they all get into these feudal situations with a wink and nod. Just like politics where they bash their opponent and then party with them at night. There's a part of me thinking I shouldn't get that upset with Dorinda over her arguments. We aren't going to watch a show where they all just get along great and never argue. I think where she miscalculated was in going so far below the belt, esp. she won't be able to get the make-up next season edit with Tinsley. But we've seen her slut shame Sonja one season, now they're friends. She drunk-shamed, arrest shamed Lu, but they're friends. Every franchise, two castmembers are at each other's throats a season. Then they magically make up! Then a couple of other seasons they are back at it again. They are all playing a role. Dorinda's drunkness is just giving her poor judgement on how far to go.

It doesn't take an education to know that drinking to excess and using drugs isn't a good thing. People that have worse circumstances than Kim's get clean. People have been richer, a better hustler than Dorinda and end up where Kim was. Dorinda just hasn't gotten to the point Kim did. She may never end up where she was. She's still a drunk. She just is functioning better.

She should sober up. She shouldn't try to get back with John. She doesn't love him that way. He deserves better and she deserves someone she isn't constantly comparing to her dead husband.

He just has to have a wallet. I love Tins, but I seriously doubt she'd be dating him if he was a GS-12. She could very easily have found someone by now, had a kid, if it weren't for chasing the major dough. On the off-again, on -again, I think it would be very difficult to have a steady relationship with someone doesn't live in your state and it take a plane ride to be together. If they were together, same state, same city and can't stay together, then that is problem. It sounds to me as if Tins finally decided she could live in Chicago full time and therefore, marriage can now happen.

Avery might have indeed been concentrating on a career: A reality show career. I wouldn't be surprised to see her be another Darcy of this franchise where she looks for love again! I liked Avery too. I haven't really read anything about her life off screen. I'm not going to assume having 2 children with 2 fathers = bad life decisions. Or living in an apartment = bad life decisions. Some people chose to live in apartment so they can pick up and leave in a year if and live somewhere else. Some people like testing out a location to see if they could hunker down in that town. It's not my lifestyle, but some people like being able to pick and up leave. What we saw of her onscreen, I saw someone who wasn't blinded by love or dick that she didn't overlook his issues. We've seen others that won't even overlook love messages and are easily convinced that the messages are just part of him being local talent. That said: If you've broken up with someone multiple times, don't travel overseas and consider a life with this person. But I'm sure 90 day Fiance offered her reality fame.

Dorinda is bad, but Kim was way worse. She wasn't showing up, she was spending a lot of time in bathrooms likely doing drugs in addition to alcohol. Remember that weird guy Ken she met briefly and moved in with? Kim got arrested several times. The worst thing Dorinda has done so far is just be a flaming asshole when drunk. She has an alcohol problem yes, but she her life is not where Kim's was.

That's why Beth fits right in with them. I loved Beth. But wow, the first episode of her return was something else. It was full of her talking about her "empire" and being the richest homeless person. I was really shocked while rewatching her first season back how full of herself she became. Me too! I want a RHOCH show badly!

As I said before, I was waiting for someone to drag her on this!

Dorinda has jumped the shark.

I really don't think Aaron is abusive. She seems to rule the roost.

Totally agree. That house just screams "old guy lives here and hasn't updated it in 80 years and won't update it." The house is just big. That's it. It's ugly.

Her body is INSANE. Best body out of all franchises. She can't be long with her grifter husband right?