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I could not stand him and I completely agree to every single word you just said! My issue with this show is the editing: We do not need to hear each cast member repeat who the couples are, or who just showed up on the beach, ad infinitum. When something happens, we don't need a cast member to parrot it back to us after the commercial break, and then three more times. Yeah, WE GET IT. Also, editors: as viewers, this is what it sounds like to us when you edit the show in such a way: Clay: It is difficult for me to see my ex on this beach. (Different camera angle) Clay: You know, my ex is here and it's hard for me to see her because I still care for her. It's difficult. *****Commercial break for some ridiculous cop show starring Cobie Smulders********** Clay:(this time with even less feeling in his voice) Angela is here on this beach and it's very difficult for me. We were just in a relationship only months ago. (Mike comes to "chat" with Clay just in case the audience needs another reminder of what's going on) Mike: How do you feel about seeing Angela here? Clay: (still monotone) it is very difficult for me to see Angela because we were just in a relationship only months ago. It is just very difficult for me. Editors....please... This isn't fun. I've heard this person repeat the same line 6 , 7, 8 times now!

I think we think he chose her, because she will do anal...

Maybe Lexi is the personality, and the twin is just the person who parrots everything-- so getting her alone might just result in silence

I am always horrified to hear these stories, and I am horrified that Bravo would actually name the first episode "Choo Choo Train" or whatever it was. Not funny, Bravo. Too low and too vulgar.

Shane is terrible and I agree with everything all of you have mentioned...but, devil's advocate: Maybe this guy doesn't want his wife grinding around in lingerie on public television-- especially as a Mormon. Maybe it would've been different in private. Even if she looked perfect (not that she doesn't) or they had a perfect marriage-- maybe he is regretting all of this being filmed, and this is something he realizes he doesn't want people watching. Maybe this went further than he thought it would and he no longer wants Emily to film, but she is insisting, and his mother is all for it-- she likes the glitz/glamour, as does the sister. Maybe Shane is the odd man out and realizes he wants privacy-- but it is too late. We forget that spouses are not always game-- they get embarrassed, they get pissed, they might think "What has my spouse signed us up for!? This is beyond my limit!" I can't believe I just defended Shane, I truly think he is a cretin.

I hate that I know the reference-- but it would be "running" a train. The things you pick up from rap music (hangs head in shame).

Is Dean wearing a cardigan.from the Lisa Rinna collection? I thought he was wearing a duster at the rose ceremony. Sydney and Mike look great together. With all due respect, I did not need to hear Katie repeat herself 27 times throughout this episode. We get it. We are following. With that being said: Peace out Jen!

I live in L.A. and the older Persian women dress as such--might be a cultural thing? Here is my take: Shane is gay. Very gay. His mother wanted him to marry/have kids, and he did, to please his crazy-ass mother. So now, he has dumped his wife off on his mother like, "here, you wanted this, here you go." All parties are moving forward without him.

I have a friend who lived in Coto, who went looking for such a place without "riff raff"....and lo and behold, behind both sets of gates, her neighbor is a pretty well-known rap artist-- one that is considered dirty/street (but who has enough money to live there). Along with said rapper, is said rappers "hood" friends, and God knows what else, next door to my friends young kids. Not sure if it was disclosed, or how such things work, but there you go. This also happens a lot behind the gates in Calabasas and other CA places. Lots of rap stars, or other Riff Raff with money. Aside from that-- it doesn't mean there isn't crime and drugs either. The crime is just white collar, and the drugs are just Rxs.

Stephanie: "F*ck Brody! F*ck Audrina! I don't have time for them in my life!" Bitch... You've got nothing *but* time in your life... You literally have all of the time in the world for both of them, hence the choice you made to have a job revolving around the both of them.

Jennie said it was because Shannen flipped up her skirt as a joke-- and she didn't find it funny. Apparently it happened in front of people.

Kelly's new boyfriend is *so* trying to pimp out his face and neck tightening procedure. This is pathetic. Hope he's not totally using her for exposure on this show.

Maybe the bod/height? I think it is because he made final two in another franchise...that seems to add "value" to these people.

Caelynn is so busted. She literally texted him that she was only coming over there for s*x, they have the whole thing screenshotted (is that a word?) here in People magazine. And for once, People actually brings the receipts instead of doing a fluff piece....https://people.com/tv/blake-horstmann-shares-texts-caelynn-miller-keyes/

Caelynn... You, as a grown ass woman, chose to sleep with a guy who you are not in a relationship with. A guy who was single, who was not committed to you. I'm not saying what he did was right, but on the other hand.... She has the option to only sleep with men she is in a relationship with, and I think she should choose that option moving forward. She is too emotional to do the whole player thing, and just hook up with people (I can't do it either.) She needs to take some accountability that she *chose* to have sex with this guy all on her own. And furthermore, he called it a mistake, because maybe it really *was*. Maybe he felt like shit afterward because he actually really did not want to hurt Kristina's feelings. Caelynn isn't cut out for this mess. And for the rest of these women: Blake cannot be a player, unless you are also playing *with* him. Could Wills be any more stoned during his talking heads? The guy looks as high as a kite!

I had to rewind it to look again, but they showed Piper in a law class learning about civil procedure--does she end up in law school? Is it possible that she was speaking to Alex as a lawyer? I'm sure she couldn't become one with her felony background, but I was interested as to why they showed her with that Civ Pro book. Edited to add: oh it looks like you guys already figured this out, I did not see it in the comments previously, sorry about that.

I was so happy to see her as well! However, when they cut to Piper at the gala, her hair looked absolutely terrible! It look like Sophia added three inches of black roots to her hair. Yes! If you knew you could be separated from your kids, wouldn't you do everything you could to be a legal citizen?

This show is making me feel GREAT about my less than stellar bikini body. Wish they would have shown less-than-perfect bods on TV in the 90s-- maybe I wouldn't have been bulimic, shit.

Hannah's dad had hearts in his eyes for Tyler when he first walked in--I think it was her dad that was falling in lust 😆

If these are selling...Ill bet it's for snark. People buying them as jokes for their fellow Hills hate-watchers.

I just listened to a podcast (I think it was Wells from the Bachelor franchise-- it was on YouTube) with Stephanie, and she was doing a lot of tea spilling. Enough to where Wells was asking her if she really wanted to say everything publically-- he was trying to stop her. Anyway, she said: Heidi and Spencer were arrested when they lived in Costa Rica a number of years ago. The Pratt's father sent a private jet to go get them (he affords this on an ortho salary?) and moved them into their family beach house in Santa Barbara (she said it was a five million dollar beach house, or something outrageous), which is where they stayed for seven years. Stephanie was furious that they got to stay there rent free, and that Heidi remodeled her mother's master bedroom and added a walk-in closet, without consulting the Pratts (besides Spencer I guess.) Heidi apparently put this on Father Pratt's credit card. Stephanie was very pissed about this. What else...Oh, After all of the private jet, beach house, etc, Heidi would barely let Mother Pratt see baby Gunner, even though they were funding them for a time. Also: When they were doing a photo shoot for the new Hills promos, Heidi bought a bunch of champagne, poured some for everyone but Stephanie. Stephanie very offended by this and going on and on about it (although, for all we know, Heidi had her reasons-- was Steph trying to stay sober? etc? Who knows.)

I agree-- I think they screwed themselves big time.

He bitched them out for not turning off their phones during the break, and they were telling him it wasn't them. It turned out to be Andy's phone that was going off, and they were like, "See?!" Andy was realizing it was he who hadn't turned off his ringer.

I think it was just part of contract negotiations, and the others hadn't thought of asking for it. You can ask for anything you want in a contract--the other party may not always say yes.

With all due respect...I think we are all being too cruel. Ladies, this is a fellow woman we are talking about. Annoying, yes-- misguided, yes-- and many other things. But this woman, as privileged as she is, lost her pregnancy. It's painful, no matter your social class, no matter your political affiliation. The NYT chose to publish her story, or possibly even asked her to do a story. They haven't asked those of us who have miscarried, because we aren't public figures. I give her a pass on this whole thing. Do most of us deal with this sort of thing better? Yes. Have many of us lost our fathers already, and went to work within days? I have. I know many of you have too. We have dealt with cancer (I've had it twice, stage four.) We have dealt with far worse, in a far better manner. But a woman losing a pregnancy is a sad situation and everything else aside, my heart goes out to any woman who deals with this. I love the snark as much as the rest of you, but these are some low blows here.