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ADDENDUM #2 (TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED ADDENDUM #1 AND SUMMARY OF S4 SPOILERS) (cont'd) Damien Darhk -- Per MG, DD has been operating in Starling City for the past three months. (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- One of the great things about all of Arrow’s previous big bads is that, despite their evil deeds, they all had a soft spot we could sometimes root for. They all thought they were doing the right thing. That won’t be the case for Damien Darhk, former friend and rival of the late Ra’s al Ghul. WM: “Damien is a full-blown megalomaniac... someone who is willing to go to any lengths to gain and maintain power. (Yahoo article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Although renaming Starling City is not DD’s handiwork, you can be sure that he will cast a long shadow - though never skulk in one - on the rebranded Star City. MG: “He’s very different from our previous Big Bads in that he’s not hiding in the shadows... But at the same time, he doesn’t have a public persona.” That, however, won’t keep him from crashing VIP gatherings. Per MG, in 4x01, DD "shows up at a very public meeting that Lance is present at... If Darhk wants to show up somewhere, he’s certainly going to!” (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On magic coming into play in S4, SA: "The Damien Darhk character is cut from the same cloth - no pun intended - as the Ra’s [al Ghul] character when it comes to elements of the Lazarus Pit. You can see very early on there is still so much to do for us. The contrast between the Green Arrow and Damien Darhk - his methods of evading arrows and the way that he handles Green Arrow - sets the tone for a different season. I think people are going to enjoy it. It gives us an opportunity to introduce some familiar characters and explore some new things and it’s interesting, magic or not, the way we set up the problems for the team this year. " (TeleVixen article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- DD will be gunning for Oliver on more than one front. WM: “Oliver’s going to be taking up more of an overt role in terms of the city is in a bad space... He’s going to be taking on Damien Darhk, and he’s going to be fighting him not just as Green Arrow, but also as Oliver Queen. It’s public and it’s part of him stepping into the light.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Shots of DD opening a cabinet, walking into city offices where people are seated around a table, and putting his hand on soldier's chest, with voiceover saying "Oh, you don't know who I am, do you?... I'm Damien Darhk." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- DD says "So you're all fretting about this city dying. I'm here on behalf of an organization that wants you to let it die." (SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- DD tells Lonnie Machin aka Anarky "I respect order, discipline. All you represent is anarchy." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- In this episode, DD says to Oliver/GA: "You can't be the Arrow because he died, so who are you?" Oliver replies "you're about to find out" as he draws an arrow out of his quiver. He shoots the arrow, but DD puts up his hand and stops the arrow in mid-flight. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread, kalichica12 tweet of SA video, page 593 of Spoiler Discussion thread, and video of Arrow "Embrace Your Dark Side" promo, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- DD says "I want to know everything about this Green Arrow. Where he lives, and who he loves." (Video of Arrow "Embrace Your Dark Side" promo, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and 2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Curtis Holt AKA Mr. Terrific -- Per MG, they do make an effort to have a diverse cast. With the Yamashiros’ story arc having ended last season, they needed to replace the diversity that was being lost, so they brought in Mr. Terrific because they wanted someone in Felicity’s life that could replace Ray, not in a romantic way, but that she could banter with and that was also intelligent. The idea for Mr. Terrific came at the end of S3, and they ended up casting the first person to audition for the role, Echo Kellum. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "That’s a character that I’ve long wanted to bring to the show and something that we were talking about with Geoff Johns last year. I wrote Mr. Terrific when I did Justice Society, and just had a blast working with him … Echo’s terrific and I’m really excited for people to see him. They got a good glimpse of him in the trailer, but there’s more to come. And if you sort of freeze frame on that little ball that Felicity tosses up in the trailer in front of Curtis, comic books fans might notice a little Easter egg there.” In the comics, Mr. Terrific uses flying metallic balls he calls his “T-Spheres.” The T-Spheres have such capabilities as creating holograms, forming a laser grid, recording, interfacing with other technology, or even acting as weapons themselves. (Den of Geek article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Basically, Curtis and Felicity are going to be best friends. (Den of Geek article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Felicity and Curtis play around with a spherical metal ball (future T-Sphere?). (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Curtis and Felicity hide under a table, with Curtis saying "what's happening now, it is not in my job description." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Double Down approaches elevator which has Curtis and Felicity in it. Felicity kicks Double Down back just as elevator doors close. Curtis asks "since when are you such a badass?" Felicity answers "since always." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- In response to fan asking if Curtis will interact with Oliver/Diggle or TA or just with Felicity, and saying that he'd like to see him hit on Oliver, MG said: "He’ll interact with Oliver. But won’t hit on him. There will be a good reason why." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Liza Warner -- Liza Warner (Rutina Wesley) may be making her debut in the 4th episode, "Beyond Redemption". (RW tweet and instagram pic, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Arrow Production Offices tweet, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Pic of RW as Liza Warner posted. (Velocity23 post, page 593 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- B-t-s pic of RW as Liza Warner with PB and SA posted. (PB instagram, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Roy Harper AKA Arsenal -- CH: “It’s one call away. You will definitely be seeing me back on Arrow and possibly a few of the other spinoff shows going forward.” (Rappler article, page 21 of Spoilers thread, and LifeStyle article, page 616 of Spoiler Discussion thread) Crossovers with Flash/LoT/Vixen -- Remember, 4x08 is the Flash crossover ep. -- Per MG, the LoT spinoff will take shape in the early episodes of both Arrow and Flash, but our heroes won't be edged out by the returns of CL and BR. MG: "There is a weird contingent on the Internet who think the first seven or eight episodes are all leading up to Legends... And what I like about this batch of episodes is that Sara's return is central to the arc for Laurel (Katie Cassidy) and Ray's return is essential to Felicity and Oliver's storyline. There is a lot of Arrow story to be told with these characters coming back." (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, we will see both Hawkman and Hawkgirl on Arrow and Flash before seeing them on LoT. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, whereas in Legends of Tomorrow the character dynamics are more like a chemical equation of how each reacts with one another, in Arrow every character has a “moment to shine.” (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On possible WC/BC fights on Arrow and LoT, KC: "I don’t know. I think you’re going to have to watch both of them. I can’t tell you. As much as I’d love to tell you. What’s great about this whole universe and what our producers did so brilliantly with three shows, we’re all in Vancouver, we all are in the same world. And it’s obviously definitely a possibility to do – everyone to be crossing over. And first, Sarah being my sister, you’d think that at least, Paul [blackthorne] and I at some point would probably be involved in their show, and hopefully they are involved in ours. And I am just so happy to have more friends in Vancouver." (MarySue article, page 78 of Starling City Times thread) -- Vixen happens around Arrow Ep. 315. (MG tumblr post, page 1 of Vixen Media thread in Vixen forum) -- Per MG, a Vixen crosover is something that they “constantly talk about,” but that they “don’t want to do something just to do it,” and that instead they “want it to happen organically.” For example, in the S4 episode of Arrow when Constantine shows up, he has a real role to play. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) (the end)

ADDENDUM #2 (TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED ADDENDUM #1 AND SUMMARY OF S4 SPOILERS) (cont'd) Laurel Lance AKA Black Canary -- Per WM, having "fully arrived as Black Canary" when the new season opens, Laurel will be focused on her work (at night and during the day), and not so much her personal life. There's no plan to introduce a love interest for the unlucky-in-love gal. WM: "I think there’s some virtue in having a female character on the show who’s not necessarily involved with a man... She has a lot of business to deal with in terms of her sister [sara] and also finding a new relationship with Oliver now that Felicity is in the picture.... It’s more [about] her finding her place on the team." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per KC, Oliver’s absence provides the heroine an opportunity to reach her potential. KC: “I definitely think these past few months she’s been able to come into her own... I feel like this is her time to shine. She’s going to do whatever it takes, especially when it comes to saving Starling City — [which is] something that she’s always done by the book. Being an attorney and working at the District Attorney’s Office, she’s been very involved on the legal side of things, and I think that this is her time to shine being a part of the A story and the action.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On doing her own stunts and Laurel's fighting style, KC: "As much as they let me do. For insurance reasons, obviously they’re not going to let me jump off a building. But I would love to – it would be fun, for sure. But they let me do as much as I can. And my stunt double, Atlin [Mitchell], she is fantastic. And I always say, like, I watch her – she’s really good at morphing herself to the actor. Because she’s also doubled Caity Lotz before. And Caity Lotz and I, we have different mannerisms, obviously we’re different people. And when she doubles Caity Lotz, she does a really good job at sort of forming and morphing into that. And when she doubles me, same thing. We get to talk – and what’s cool about it is, I spoke with her the other night – she shoots, you know like when they do giant masters? It’s normally – during fight scenes – it’s normally the stunt team because they want to go all out. And I get that, that’s totally fine with me. But we’ll discuss if the Black Canary is going to jump off the roof and onto the ground, I am trying to – I’ll talk to her about picking up mannerisms for Caity because we’re sisters. So, even just like the way she falls, she lands, and the way she looks up, and the way she kind of crouches – just small little things just to sort of tie us together and create that, I guess, sisterly bond." (MarySue article, page 78 of Starling City Times thread) -- KC: "I’m really happy because I like the direction they’ve gone with my character. I’m not the girlfriend or the love interest, I actually have my own storyline. I’m not just there to serve as a love interest. Yeah, I’m sure at some point, hopefully … not to be selfish on a personal level, they’ll cast someone to potentially be my love interest. It’ll probably happen and I like that I have my own storyline aside from Team Arrow as well; I have my own identity.... Honestly, I don’t know when they would do it because Laurel, right now, being on the team and being a part of it is still so new to her, that’s just where she’s focused, owning what she’s doing, owning herself, the Black Canary, and proving herself. I think she’s living that world and is supportive of Oliver and Felicity." (Collider article, page 76 of Starling City Times thread, and MarySue article, page 78 of Starling City Times thread) -- In response to a female fan asking if he thinks Oliver will never have a romantic relationship with Laurel or Sara again, SA said that on a show where people come back to life, you wouldn't be that smart to use the word "never". But that being said, SA thinks it's important "that we establish relationships for Oliver, specifically relationships with female characters that don't involve him sleeping with them. Right? Because there are real relationships in the world where men and women can work together without going home together, or having sex on the floor of the Arrowcave.... I don't know. I doubt it, but I will never say never. Plus I don't write the show." (Video of SA panel at Wizard World Chicago Comic-Con 2015 and tv echo recap, page 188 of Behind the Mask thread) -- Per MG, the premiere episode will include a pivotal Black Canary moment. (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- BC gets a motorcycle. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Storyboard drawing of Laurel/BC riding a motorcycle alongside a Kord Industries truck. (MG tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Shot of Thea/Speedy riding behind Laurel/BC on her motorcycle. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Laurel says "the Ghost is like nothing we've seen before, well trained, well armed. We need the Arrow." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- SA mentioned the "good" hallway scene between Oliver and Laurel in S2 and then said "we have the opposite scene this year... which is actually really cool." (Video of Arrow Sunday panel with SA, JB, KC and MN at Dragon Con 2015, page 196 of Behind the Mask thread) -- From journalists' on-set interview with KC: She "doesn't plan to go back to being Oliver's love interest" and "you don't always end up with the love of your life". Also, KC talked about Laurel's relationship with Sara and that Laurel will have to help her sister find herself after she comes back. (dtissagirl posts, page 598 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- MG: “[sara’s resurrection] very much comes about because of decisions that Laurel makes and choices that Laurel will then have to live with.” Also, MG: “The episodes dealing with Sara’s return are amongst probably the heaviest material that we’ve had for Laurel. We’re using Sara’s return to really get underneath not just Laurel as a person, but the relationship that she has with Thea and the friendship that she has with Oliver.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "Sara's return is central to the arc for Laurel..." (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- On possible WC/BC fights on Arrow and LoT, KC: "I don’t know. I think you’re going to have to watch both of them. I can’t tell you. As much as I’d love to tell you. What’s great about this whole universe and what our producers did so brilliantly with three shows, we’re all in Vancouver, we all are in the same world. And it’s obviously definitely a possibility to do – everyone to be crossing over. And first, Sarah being my sister, you’d think that at least, Paul [blackthorne] and I at some point would probably be involved in their show, and hopefully they are involved in ours. And I am just so happy to have more friends in Vancouver." (MarySue article, page 78 of Starling City Times thread) Quentin Lance -- Per PB, Quentin and DD have shot scenes together. "It’s all rather interesting; a peculiar relationship." (GreenArrowTV interview with PB, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per WM, Captain Lance is still "very opposed" to the costumed crimefighters. WM: "He still traces back every bad thing in Starling City to Oliver’s arrival and the arrival of the masks." However, given Damien Darhk's arrival and "how dire the straits are for the city, he’s going to start to see them as a necessary evil, something that he doesn’t love or embrace but recognizes might be the only answer to saving his home." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Quentin tells Oliver "this city started to go to crap the moment you put on that hood. You brought madness into all of our lives, and the monster you were inspired other monsters." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- On Oliver having a new alter ego, the Green Arrow, PB: "Quentin’s actually not massively enamored with the idea that the man suddenly has to give himself a color. We actually had a funny scene the other day where Lance, in his own inimitable fashion, did remark upon how cute that was. 'You should now have a color.'" (GreenArrowTV interview with PB, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- SA: "There's really good Diggle-Lance stuff this year, which has never happened. I don't know if they've even ever met." (Video of Arrow Sunday panel with SA, JB, KC and MN at Dragon Con 2015, page 196 of Behind the Mask thread) -- Quentin knocks out Diggle by hitting him on the back of his head. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) Thea Queen AKA Speedy -- Per MG, Thea’s storyline helps in bringing the show back to its roots as she faces the difficulties of being a hero. MG:“Since season 1, we really haven’t done that much with Oliver trying to keep his secret identity secret on the show... But that’s something we’re going to be playing around with Thea as we get deeper into the season and she tries to balance hopefully a personal life with being a superhero - something she’s never had to deal with before.” That personal life includes a new love interest in Alex Davis (Parker Young), though Thea will also have an unexpected connection to Lonnie Machin, a.k.a. Anarky (Alexander Calvert), a psychotic criminal who poses a major threat in the second episode. (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Thea has a new love interest, and the show fully intends to tap into Parker Young's skills as a comedic performer on Suburgatory and Enlisted. WM: "It’s still going to be dark and gritty, but he’s one of those places [where] we’re bringing [humor] in... [Thea] is going to have the challenge that Oliver had in the first season of, she’s now a superhero and she wants to have a normal life. She’s got this guy. How does she balance both of those things?" (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Shot of Thea/Speedy riding behind Laurel/BC on her motorcycle, exclaiming "This is so cool". (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Shots of Thea/Speedy fighting and acting a bit crazy, with voiceover saying "when people go in the Pit, they don't come out the same." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Pics of Thea's place taken by international reporters touring the Arrow set on Sep. 8, 2015. (dtissagirl post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Malcolm Merlyn AKA The Dark Archer AKA The Magician AKA Ra's al Ghul -- Per MG, we will see a lot of JB in S4 as Malcolm, relishing his role as Ra’s al Ghul. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "The best way to put it is its father knows worst... Malcolm comes into the story very much more in the role of Thea’s father than in the role of the Head of the League of Assassins. It’s so much fun to play with Malcolm as dad because his choices are just very unusual. Much to the chagrin of Thea, he doesn’t handle things the way a typical father would.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Malcolm may be the new leader of the LOA, but he won't be saying goodbye to his old life entirely: Per MG, he'll "get back into the hood for Episode 3." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- There is a tense confrontation between Nyssa and Malcolm/Ra's. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Shot of Nyssa and Malcolm fighting. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) (to be continued)

ADDENDUM #2 (TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED ADDENDUM #1 AND SUMMARY OF S4 SPOILERS) (cont'd) Team Arrow -- SA: "There's no leader of the team this year. It's an actual team, which is cool." (Video of Arrow Sunday panel with SA, JB, KC and MN at Dragon Con 2015, page 196 of Behind the Mask thread) -- Oliver presents the new Arrowcave to the rest of TA. (dtissagirl post, page 598 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- The new Arrowcave was built with help from Cisco and Star Labs. (dtissagirl post, page 598 of Spoiler Discussion thread) John Diggle -- MG: "Andy’s death is a big mystery that will occupy the first half of Season 4." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, DR suggested the actor who played Andy Diggle, and it worked perfectly. (youmademeafan tumblr post, page 581 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per MG, they didn't do enough to service Diggle's character in S3. However, S4 is Diggle's year and fans of his will be happy. (youmademeafan tumblr post, page 581 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- WM: "One of the things we’re really excited about in the first half of the season is, how does Oliver win [Diggle] back?"... "When they meet again at the top of Season 4, it is frosty. It is not good. In the past, Oliver would have been very defensive and maybe written Dig off or really defended his position. What’s interesting now is that he’s in a different place. He’s happy with Felicity. He’s more willing to say, 'Maybe I made some mistakes.' Their reconciliation, how they get there, is going to be a bumpy ride. It’s not going to be fully resolved." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per WM, the connection between his brother Andy's death and H.I.V.E. "is going to be a huge piece of Dig’s story and will really take up most of his emotional arc for the season... He wants answers. He’s up against some pretty bad guys. But he’s going to get them." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Pic of Diggle's new suit with helmet posted. (MG tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread and Soulfire post, page 587 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Diggle's new supersuit has a visor over the face. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Diggle's helmet can do a lot of stuff, and they'll keep adding functions with time. Also, his new weapon looks like the one from Blade Runner. (Cooperativa article, page 607 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per DR, Diggle will get a new weapon, developed by Star Labs. (Omelete article, page 599 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- MG: “I don’t think Diggle looks at it as a costume per se... Oliver [stephen Amell], in the last season, gave him advice in terms of concealing his identity, and so Diggle approaches it from a very practical standpoint. He followed Oliver’s advice and he’s got a means of concealing his identity, but I think Diggle would probably react to anyone calling it a costume.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- From journalists' on-set interview with DR: It's alright that his helmet looks like Magneto's. He might get a superhero name this season, but he doesn't know what it is. (dtissagirl post, page 599 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per MG, not everyone is happy about Oliver returning. “[Diggle] was the one who was most angered over Oliver’s choices at the end of season 3... And he’s certainly the one who’s most against Oliver returning and him being forced to work with Oliver.” But Diggle — who’s also sporting a new suit this season — is also raring to face off against DD, whose shadowy organization put the hit out on his brother all those years prior. MG: “It’s something that will drive Diggle in the first half of the year... It’s very tied into what’s going on between him and Oliver.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Diggle says "Oliver walked away" to Thea and Laurel. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Diggle tells Oliver "even when we are out there, we are not out there together." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Diggle (helping Oliver up) says "You took a bullet for me." (Video of Arrow "Embrace Your Dark Side" promo, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- SA: "There's really good Diggle-Lance stuff this year, which has never happened. I don't know if they've even ever met." (Video of Arrow Sunday panel with SA, JB, KC and MN at Dragon Con 2015, page 196 of Behind the Mask thread) -- Quentin knocks out Diggle by hitting him on the back of his head. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Per WM, Diggle & Lyla's relationship is "so solid. Oliver and Felicity might go through some ups and downs this season, but Lyla and Dig, they’ve seen it all." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Pics of Diggle & Lyla's place were taken by international reporters touring the Arrow set on Sep. 8, 2015. (dtissagirl post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Lyla Michaels -- In response to fan saying that Lyla will be over what Oliver did before Diggle will, MG responded: "Ep. 403 holds your answer." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per WM, Lyla will "have a new place of employment.." WM: "There are going to be things that happen that motivate her to maybe not return to A.R.G.U.S., but certainly to take up the mantle and come back into the fight." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) (to be continued)

ADDENDUM #2 (TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED ADDENDUM #1 AND SUMMARY OF S4 SPOILERS) (cont'd) Oliver & Felicity -- In response to fan asking what Billy Joel song would he use to describe Oliver & Felicity this season, MG said: "'You’re My Home.'" (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Felicity is a positive impact on Oliver. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: "Oliver being in a relationship with Felicity is obviously a huge component of season four... And now that Oliver's faith in humanity has been restored via his relationship with Felicity, that will be challenged by our new villain Damien Dahrk, so how will he maintain his faith in people over the course of the season?" (Hollywood Reporter article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On Oliver & Felicity's five-month getaway, MG: “They have been all over the world traveling... They’ve had a grand old time going to different places and have since settled down in another city and [are] living under very different circumstances.” So different, in fact, that our retired hero has actually embraced the joys of curling up on the couch. (TVInsider article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Pics of Oliver & Felicity on vacation were posted by MG. (MG tweets, page 20 of Spoilers thread and page 192 of Behind the Mask thread) -- On when Oliver is going to propose to Felicity, SA: "When he gets his shit together... There's no way that I can answer that question." (Video of Arrow Saturday panel with SA, JB, KC and MN at Dragon Con 2015, page 195 of Behind the Mask thread) -- When S4 starts, Oliver plans to propose to Felicity at a special dinner, even hiding an engagement ring in her souffle(?), when they are interrupted by Thea and Laurel coming to him for help. (2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per journalist visiting the Arrow set, the dynamic between Oliver and Felicity is like a married couple. (wonderwall post, page 598 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Shots of Oliver & Felicity kissing on the outside balcony of Thea's loft at night and in bed together in the morning. (Video of Arrow "Embrace Your Dark Side" promo, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- When asked how long Oliver and Felicity could last as a couple, MG joked that they’ll make it “longer than the first episode, which would beat our record!” Actually, the EPs plan to “explore the nature of their relationship as a couple and we have no desire to break them up before [that]...one of the fun parts of the season is the will they stay together or break up.” (TVInsider article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- When asked how long Oliver & Felicity could last as a couple, MG joked that they'll make it "longer than the first episode, which would bear out record!" Actually, the producers plan to "explore the nature of their relationship as a couple, and we have no desire to break them up before [that]." (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Oliver will be supportive of Felicity being CEO. (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- In response to fan saying they miss Olicity/Felicity sexual innuendos and asking if we'll see any funny scenes next season, MG said: "Yes." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: "Oliver and Felicity might go through some ups and downs this season, but Lyla and Dig, they’ve seen it all." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Fan who interviewed MG: "Lastly, I know that Marc is a big fan of Sons of Anarchy as I am. I compared Jax and Tara’s relationship to Oliver and Felicity. If you’re not familiar with the show, it is a must watch. If so, you’ll be thrilled to know that Marc was in agreement with me that Jax & Tara had a relationship that didn’t interfere with the story telling and Jax remained true to his character. At the end of the day, Jax was still ruthless, badass, and not to be taken lightly; but, his love for his girl was amazing. Marc liked the comparison. So I continued that I thought Arrow has what it takes to continue making Olicity goodness while Arrow maintains its gritty storytelling with no interference. He agreed whole heartedly." (youmademeafan tumblr post, page 581 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- MG: "Ray's return is essential to Felicity and Oliver's storyline." (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) Oliver Queen AKA Green Arrow -- On Oliver, MG: “We played him as a guy who was returning home from war with PTSD for the first three years... Now he’s put those demons to rest, or so he thinks, and there’s a lightness to him as a result of all the things he learned last year.” Per WM, suiting up with a new lighter costume (and fully loaded lair) to match the season’s tone, Oliver “has more faith in humanity than he did in the past... It’s less about erasing his father’s legacy and more about establishing his.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, Oliver is still Oliver, just so much more fun. MG complimented SA on his interpretation of the new and improved Oliver. There will be more scenes between Oliver and Ray. (youmademeafan tumblr post, page 581 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- MG: "“It still feels like Arrow, but at the same time, Oliver’s got a new outlook on life.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "He has healed and is now, like Felicity [Emily Bett Rickards] said in the season finale, a different person... A great surprise this season is Stephen's performance. He's done something really, really hard, which is to correctly adjust for Oliver's [healthier] mental state." (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, at the beginning of S4, Oliver is going to try to be both the GA and Oliver at the same time, but Felicity says that at least this time he's not doing it alone. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On Oliver's being in a good place when S4 begins as a nice change for his character, SA: "Yeah, it was for me, too. He hasn’t had too many good breaks, basically since the mid-way point of the second season when Slade Wilson shows up at his house. That can become a little tiresome for me creatively, and just in general it’s nice to see him [happy]. But because our show is our show, there are going to be problems, there’s going to be life and death stakes. One difference this year is how Oliver deals with them, and it’s certainly not the only difference. For me, it’s interesting to watch him rely on other people, counsel with more than himself, and ask people for help. All of those things make a richer character." (TeleVixen article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- DD will be gunning for Oliver on more than one front. WM: “Oliver’s going to be taking up more of an overt role in terms of the city is in a bad space... He’s going to be taking on Damien Darhk, and he’s going to be fighting him not just as Green Arrow, but also as Oliver Queen. It’s public and it’s part of him stepping into the light.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- One element from the Green Arrow comics that may or may not show up in season 4 of Arrow is Oliver Queen’s chili, famous in the DC superhero world for being one of the hottest entities known to man and generally only being enjoyed by Oliver himself. According to MG, we’re moving “closer and closer” to the introduction of the chili in season 4. MG: “I’m surprised [and] I think you’d be surprised at how much Oliver’s culinary skills play a role in season 4... My answer probably seems weird and stupid right now, but it will all actually make a lot more sense when you see the season premiere.” (Den of Geek article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On the popular fan theory about Oliver running for Mayor, WM: "He will definitely be coming more to the fore as Oliver Queen and balancing that with his new role as the Green Arrow. He'll be bringing some light to the city. I can't say exactly how, but that's his goal." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Oliver will be running for Mayor. (Pic of SA and PY, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Oliver says to Felicity, "I don't want to be that type of person anymore." Felicity replies, "Maybe you just need to be a different kind of person." (2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Shot of Amanda Waller telling flashback Oliver "you have certainly chosen an unusual hobby, Mr. Queen." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Waller says to flashback Oliver "Embrace your inner darkness." (Video of Arrow "Embrace Your Dark Side" promo, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Waller voiceover: "The world is too small for someone like Oliver Queen to disappear." (2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Oliver: "The only way I know how to fight the darkness is to be darkness." (2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- In response to fan asking if Oliver will finally dance this season, MG said: "No plans as yet. Stay tuned." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Felicity Smoak -- In response to fan complaint that Felicity should be given a codename so bad guys won't hear her name over the comm link, MG said: "Keep watching." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- In response to fan asking if they have a backup destiny for Felicity (other than Oracle), MG said: "You'll see..." (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, for Felicity, the show is “not defining her solely by her relationship with Oliver,." Felicity will take over Ray Palmer’s company after his apparent death. MG: “She’s going to encounter some unexpected challenges, but it gives us a chance to really show a different side of Felicity. She’s still her funny, quirky, idealistic self, but she’s also now the CEO of a corporation and she’s also now going to have to be strong, confident and imaginative in addition to her already wonderful qualities.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: "She’s no longer just the IT girl or Vice President under Palmer... She’s the full-blown CEO, and it’s an opportunity to really see that character grow up and be challenged in ways we haven’t seen before." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- From journalists' on-set interview with EBR: Felicity comes back to the heroes business because she feels like it is her responsibility. Her dynamic with Oliver is as a couple. Her favorite moment is when Felicity discovers her sense of justice. She likes Felicity's dresses, they don't make any noise when she walks. She said the suits make noises. (Velocity23 post, page 599 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- SA: "Oliver does not enjoy [Felicity's] cooking. Is that okay? She's a horrible cook. She's good at everything else." (Video of Arrow Sunday panel with SA, JB, KC and MN at Dragon Con 2015, page 196 of Behind the Mask thread) -- WM: “One thing I've learned about Felicity... is that she's more of an adrenaline junkie than I ever would have imagined!” (Yahoo article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Felicity shoots a machine gun in what looks like a shot-out lair. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread, and 2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Felicity angrily tells Oliver and Diggle "you both almost got killed tonight because you didn't have each other's backs". (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Basically, Curtis and Felicity are going to be best friends. (Den of Geek article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Felicity and Curtis play around with a spherical metal ball (future T-Sphere?). (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Curtis and Felicity hide under a table, with Curtis saying "what's happening now, it is not in my job description." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Double Down approaches elevator which has Curtis and Felicity in it. Felicity kicks Double Down back just as elevator doors close. Curtis asks "since when are you such a badass?" Felicity answers "since always." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) (to be continued)

ADDENDUM #2 (TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED ADDENDUM #1 AND SUMMARY OF S4 SPOILERS) (cont'd) Episode 4x02 The Candidate -- Title of 4x02 is "The Candidate" and will be directed by John Behring. (MG tweet, page 18 of Spoilers thread and page 559 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Remember, Curtis Holt aka Mr. Terrific (Echo Kellum), Lonnie Machin aka Anarky (Alexander Calvert), and Jessica Danforth (Jeri Ryan) will debut in this episode. Jessica's daughter, Madison (played by Tiera Skovbye?) may or may not debut in this episode. -- Anarky, a psychotic criminal, poses a major threat in this episode. Also, Thea will have an unexpected connection to Anarky. (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Press conference with Jessica Danforth at podium with "Jessica Danforth for Mayor 2016" banner. Behind her stand several people, including Lonnie Machin. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Aug. 4, 2015 Deadline article stated that Jeri Ryan "recently wrapped a stint on the CW’s Arrow." (Deadline article, page 583 of Spoiler Discussion article) Episode 4x03 Restoration -- Title of 4x03 is "Restoration" and will be directed by Wendey Stanzler. (MG tweet, page 19 of Spoilers thread and page 180 of Behind the Mask thread) -- Remember, Jeremy Tell aka Double Down (JR Bourne) and Conklin (Ryan Robbins) will debut in this episode. Also, flashback villain Baron Reiter (Jimmy Akingbola) will debut either in this episode or in episode 4x01. -- Double Down approaches elevator which has Curtis and Felicity in it. Felicity kicks Double Down back just as elevator doors close. Curtis asks "since when are you such a badass?" Felicity answers "since always." (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- Malcolm may be the new leader of the LOA, but he won't be saying goodbye to his old life entirely: Per MG, he'll "get back into the hood for Episode 3." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MC, "Ep. 403 holds your answer" to whether Lyla gets over what Oliver did quicker than Diggle. (MG tumblr post, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Episode 4x05 Beyond Redempton [WILL AIR AS 4TH EPISODE] -- Title of 4th episode is "Beyond Redemption" and will be directed by Lexi Alexander. (MG tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Remember, "Beyond Redemption" will air as the 4th episode, but is being shot as 5th (production codes are in production order, not air date order). -- Remember, MG said that "the title refers to more than one person or thing... There’s a bunch of things in episode 4 that are beyond redemption. It’s something that keeps coming up in that episode. There’s a bunch of big revelations in that episode, and some key discoveries. It’s an episode where the title pretty much touches on the different storylines to that episode.” -- Liza Warner (Rutina Wesley) may be making her debut in this episode. (RW tweet and instagram pic, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and Arrow Production Offices tweet, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Conklin will appear in this episode (in addition to previous episode). (LA tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Episode 4x04 Haunted [WILL AIR AS 5TH EPISODE] -- Title of 5th episode is "Haunted" and will be directed by John Badham. (MG tweet, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Remember, "Haunted" will air as the 5th episode, but is being shot as 4th (production codes are in production order, not air date order). -- Remember, John Constantine (Matt Ryan) and Alex Davis (Parker Young) will debut in this episode. -- Constantine will be "key" in resurrecting Sara, whose presence will be met by "very different reactions" from her family. (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On Sara's resurrection via the LP, WM: “It’s a different thing than it was with Thea... To put it bluntly, she’s more dead. We needed somebody to come in and basically resurrect her and bring her soul back. We were really thrilled that we were able to get Matt Ryan. He’s the perfect character to do it.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "When you see him in the show, honestly it feels like we’re doing a Constantine/Arrow crossover, and it’s so exciting… We’re just really glad we got the chance to extend Matt Ryan’s run as Constantine by at least one more hour of television. I think you’ll see he fits very neatly into our universe. It never feels forced, it feels right. Stephen’s on screen vibe with Matt is just very natural, it’s as if these guys had been working together forever." (SuperHeroHype article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- This episode wrapped shooting on August 26, 2015, and includes a scene with Quentin and Laurel next to the Lazarus Pit. (PB tweets and pics, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, they've already written and shot the Constantine episode, and Constantine doesn't die at the end. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Episode 4x06 Lost Souls -- Title of 4x06 is "Lost Souls" and will be directed by Antonio Negret. Production began on this episode on Sep. 9, 2015. (MG tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- This episode is the show's 75th episode. (MG and SA tweets, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Remember, Donna Smoak (Charlotte Ross) will appear in this episode. -- Remember, this episode will answer the question of whether the explosion at Palmer Tech is on the same time line as Oliver & Felicity's journey. -- Curtis Holt has scenes with Oliver, Donna Smoak and Felicity in this episode. (CR and EK tweets, page 20 of Spoilers thread, and SA facebook video, page 613 of Spoiler Discussion thread) Episode 4x07 -- James Bamford will direct 4x07. (SA tweet, page 581 of Spoiler Discussion thread) Episode 4x08 [Arrow/Flash Crossover] -- Hawkman (Falk Hentschel) will first appear on episode 408 of Arrow (before going to LoT). (DCLegendsTV article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Remember, Vandal Savage (Casper Crump) will debut in either this episode or episode 2x08 of The Flash (before going to LoT). -- Remember, the first non-Oliver flashback will be in this episode. (to be continued)

ADDENDUM #2 (TO PREVIOUSLY POSTED ADDENDUM #1 AND SUMMARY OF S4 SPOILERS) General S4 Spoilers -- In S4, DD (NM) is a series regular, while the following are recurring characters: Baron Reiter (JA), Curtis Holt (EK), Anarky (AC), Alex Davis (PY) and "a woman from Oliver's past" (ER). (TVLine article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, as season 3 toyed with themes pertaining to one’s identity, Arrow now aims to explore the members of Team Arrow each coming into their own. (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: "We're really exploring the notion of family and what that means... Oliver being in a relationship with Felicity is obviously a huge component of season four. Also, what does family mean to the team and to individual members of the team? And now that Oliver's faith in humanity has been restored via his relationship with Felicity, that will be challenged by our new villain Damien Dahrk, so how will he maintain his faith in people over the course of the season?" (Hollywood Reporter article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- WM: “The theme of Season 4 is family... What it means to be part of a family, what defines family.” That starts with Oliver, “specifically, how Oliver balances his two families [Team Arrow and his personal relationships with Thea and Felicity].” (Yahoo articles, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "How magic and mysticism fit into the universe of Arrow is explored a lot in Season 4." (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: “Ever since Slade Wilson [Manu Bennett] came to town around [season 2, episode 15], the show has been on this very, very dark path, leading to Sara’s [Caity Lotz] death and the culmination of season 3... Our goal was to return the show more in the tone of the first season-and-a-half.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- MG: "“It still feels like Arrow, but at the same time, Oliver’s got a new outlook on life... We’re driving conflict to the show in ways that we never would have in the first three years. So it still feels like Arrow, but it’s a different take on the show.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On flashbacks, MG: “I’ll be honest: The episodic connection, week to week… that cart started to drag the horse for me a bit... So toward the end of last year I said to the writers, 'what we really need to do is not worry so much about the connection between present and past and just tell a really amazing story in the past.'" As a result, the S4 flashbacks, which kick off in Coast City but then head to places unknown, have MG “really happy.” MG: “I feel like we have our best flashback story ever.” (TV Line article, page 19 of Spoilers thread) -- On overall plan, per MG, they have not deviated drastically from their plan for the 5-year arc with flashbacks and present time; if the ratings continue to be strong, they will not have to change, but if the ratings tank, then they will make changes as needed. (youmademeafan tumblr post, page 581 of Spoiler Discussion thread) -- MG: "We finished the first three years like a trilogy. This year, it feels the same and new at the same time. The newness has just been really invigorating, I think for everybody. The show really has an incredible scope this year. We’re all having a lot of fun writing the new, lighter tone. I think the actors are enjoying the dynamics. I think we’re doing a much better job than we have in the past of balancing all of our characters. We have a large ensemble, and I feel like everyone in each episode has their moment to shine, which is something that we’ve always wanted to get to. That’s always just a big challenge. I think we’re coming out of the gate really strong, and I really, really hope that everyone watches it and enjoys it. I think they will. I’m very optimistic about what people will think of the new season." (Nerdist article, page 77 of Starling City Times thread) -- Starling City is renamed Star City. MG (laughs): "The town needed to do something to keep people from moving out because of the past three season finales." The change also honors the presumed-dead Ray Palmer (BR) who had the idea for the name change back in last year's premiere. (TV Guide article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, they're actually trying to work an Agent Carter Easter Egg into Arrow. (GenderBiasedReviews article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) Episode 4x01 Green Arrow -- Title of 4x01 is "Green Arrow" and will be directed by Thor Freudenthal. (MG tweet, page 165 of Behind the Mask thread) -- Remember, Damian Darhk (Neal McDonough) will debut in this episode. Also, flashback villain Baron Reiter (Jimmy Akingbola) will debut either in this episode or in episode 4x03. -- 4x01 synopsis: "Oliver (Stephen Amell) and Felicity’s (Emily Bett Rickards) blissful getaway is cut short when Thea (Willa Holland) and Laurel (Katie Cassidy) pay them a visit and tell Oliver they need his help back in Star City. The city has been attacked by 'Ghosts,' assassins led by a dangerous man named Damien Darhk (guest star Neil McDonough). However, when Oliver returns, Diggle (David Ramsey) makes it very clear that he doesn’t want Oliver on the team. Thor Freudenthal directed the episode with story by Greg Berlanti & Beth Schwartz and teleplay by Marc Guggenheim & Wendy Mericle (#401). Original airdate 10/7/2015." (SpoilerTV article, page 21 of Spoilers thread) -- 26 photos from 4x01 were released by the CW. (ComicBook and TVLine articles, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- SA: "The fundamental part of the season, that nobody is really going to understand until they see the premiere, is that we do something in the premiere that we've never done in the history of the show... It does something for the remainder of the season that there's going to be a constant jeopardy in the show, even if times are good. It's a really interesting technique. I think it promotes a good story. I think it will pique people's interest." (Breathecast article, page 76 of Starling City Times thread) -- MG: "“We’re gonna learn that this villain [Damien Darhk] has been operating in town for the past three months... Team Arrow has basically been trying to keep [him] at bay, but then something happens in the season premiere that’s the straw that breaks the camel’s back and it prompts Laurel [Katie Cassidy] and Thea [Willa Holland] to go find Oliver and get him to return.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- When S4 opens, WM: "The city has declined drastically despite the best efforts of Dig, Speedy and Black Canary... And with the arrival of Damien Darhk... on the scene, it's obviously big stakes." Hence, Oliver and Felicity's return – though not everyone is welcoming back the archer with open arms. Per WM, Diggle is still "frosty" toward his "brother," while Quentin still is not thrilled with the masked vigilantes yet has come to see them "as a necessary evil." (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- On Oliver & Felicity living a very different lifestyle when S4 begins, MG: “Oliver even says in the premiere that he is enjoying making evening plans that don't involve him being shot at.” (TVInsider article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- When S4 starts, Oliver & Felicity are living happily in a nice suburban neighborhood. Oliver returns from jogging to find Felicity in the kitchen trying to cook using a "Cook to Impress" cookbook. They kiss. Later, Oliver plans to propose to Felicity at a special dinner, even hiding an engagement ring in her souffle(?), when they are interrupted by Thea and Laurel coming to ask Oliver/Arrow for help. Oliver & Felicity return to Star(ling) City in a limo, passing by the new billboard that states that the city has been renamed Star City in honor of Dr. Raymond Palmer (1981-2015). Oliver & Felicity rejoin TA. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread, and 2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Oliver says to Felicity, "I don't want to be that type of person anymore." Felicity replies, "Maybe you just need to be a different kind of person." Felicity uncovers glass case containing new GA costume. Oliver puts on new suit, with bow & arrows. (2nd official S4 trailer posted as Arrow facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- In this episode, per MG, DD "shows up at a very public meeting that Lance is present at... If Darhk wants to show up somewhere, he’s certainly going to!” (TVLine article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- In this episode, DD says to Oliver/GA: "You can't be the Arrow because he died, so who are you?" Oliver replies "you're about to find out" as he draws an arrow out of his quiver. He shoots the arrow, but DD puts up his hand and stops the arrow in mid-flight. (Official S4 trailer posted as SA facebook video, page 20 of Spoilers thread, Velocity23 post, page 589 of Spoiler Discussion thread, kalichica12 tweet of SA video, page 593 of Spoiler Discussion thread, and video of Arrow "Embrace Your Dark Side" promo, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- We'll see Diggle's new suit in action in this episode. (CW Arrow tweet, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, the premiere episode will include a pivotal Black Canary moment. (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- In flashbacks, Oliver is facing an entirely different criminal organization this season: Shadowspire, led by Baron Reiter, whom Oliver will come up against in Coast City - yes, Green Lantern’s hometown. MG: “There is a nod or two... There is a billboard that people will get a kick out of, and there may or may not be a ring in the season premiere.” (EW article, page 20 of Spoilers thread) -- Per MG, the Green Lantern will not show up on Arrow this season. (Hollywood Reporter article, page 68 of Starling City Times thread and page 584 of Spoiler Discussion thread) (to be continued)

Two great pics from EBR's instagram...

Yes, at the City of Heroes event in Birmingham (in May), a fan asked when Oliver first realized he was in love with Felicity. SA replied that, in episode 206, when Oliver told Felicity that because of the life they lead, what they do, it's better if they're not together, Oliver wouldn't have said that if it wasn't a tacit admission of his feelings. His comments are sorta contradictory. Maybe he was playing, and the writers were writing, Oliver as having feelings for Felicity starting in 206, but the decision had not (yet) been made to put them together. They could've kept their relationship platonic and slightly flirty, eventually putting them with other people. I don't know. I still think something happened during S2 to explain the drastic change between 2A and 2B in regard to the O&F relationship.

From SA's solo Friday panel (9/4) at Dragon Con (warning - includes footage of S4 trailer)... Dragon Con 2015 Stephen Amell Arrow Panel Published on Sep 12, 2015, by Carmen Alexis -- Fan asked what he did differently to prepare for his WWE match as opposed to preparing for Arrow. SA: "I would've gotten a tan. (audience laughs) I didn't realize all the wrestlers were tanning. I looked like powder [not sure of word] out there.... No, seriously, I looked really white." -- Fan asked if it was safe for him to return to wrestling matches and if Stardust was holding a grudge. SA said that Stardust seems to be holding a grudge and that there wasn't finality to the feud. -- Fan mentioned that SA was the first to audition for the OQ role and was so perfect for it, and asked how he prepared for his audition and also how he prepared in order to get so many layers in his emotional scenes. SA said that PB, for example, is "very stringent" in his preparation for a scene - he's practiced his lines, he has a routine whereby when he returns to Vancouver, he does "very specific Lance things" (like taking the train from the airport rather than hopping a cab, or going to a specific restaurant). SA: "I'm the exact opposite. I have to work so much on the show. I have to work every day, that I can't really focus on preparations so much as knowing the entire story, knowing where my character is, and then figuring out what the scene is and how I'm going to play it once it gets on its feet. And I really think that having that flexibility as an actor is really key. When it comes to auditioning, um, I stopped trying to be incredibly specific to the character. I would just go in for the first read and try to be an enthusiastic, exaggerated version of myself. Because I'm decent at being myself, as is everybody else. So they would go in there, they would say, 'oh, okay, this guy seems comfortable in his own skin, we kinda like the read.' Then they would give you direction and they tell you what they want from the character, as opposed to you trying to guess what they want. So you go in, just be happy Steve, and then they say, 'okay, so um, Oliver's about to kill somebody, so maybe get a little bit more on the level.' Right? So that's my process." -- Fan asked about EBR's character not originally planned to be an integral part of the show and if he knew Felicity was eventually going to Oliver's love interest. SA: "The answer is no and no. The bare bones of making a TV show is that you are going to shoot a pilot, and we shot the pilot in March of 2012. March, April, of 2012. That pilot gets put together, gets picked up by the network, you go to the upfronts, and you announce that you're going to do a series, and you know - the best pilots set the table for a series, but at the same time they really need to be explosive and almost their own story, so that the show actually gets picked up in the first place. Then when you get into the bare bones of television production, we were completed - we had completed episode 9 before the pilot had actually premiered. So how do you know what's going to work? How do you know what's going to pop or resonate with an audience? You don't really know until people watch it. And, in the early going, after Emily's first appearance in the third episode, it was just people who saw the studio and the network cuts going, 'we enjoyed her performance', so we saw her again. And I knew that she was going to be an integral part of the show when all of a sudden they built her a set. (audience laughs) Right? When you build someone a set, they're going to be around for a little bit. (audience laughs and claps) And then she signed on as a regular. But you know, as late as - I don't know - probably the midway point of season 2, it was like, 'do you think that Oliver and Felicity will ever get together?' And I swear to God, the show runner said this, 'Absolutely not. Never.' Which is why you never say never." -- (Joined by RA) SA: "You all know my older cousin, Robbie." (audience laughs) RA: "Stephen is seven years older than me." SA: "Can't tell." RA: "My least favorite question, who's older? Stephen, by a day." -- RA was in Vancouver this week filming two tv shows, another episode of The Flash and the season finale of The X-Files. -- SA did impersonation of RA talking to his agent on the phone: "Hello? Yeah, is it a genre show? (audience laughs) Yeah, I'll do it. For sure. I don't even know what show it is. (pause) Okay. Thanks very much." RA (looking at SA): "There's a genre show I still haven't been on." SA: "Don't look at me. It's not like I have any hand or anything... We'll get you on New Girl." -- Fan asked, if he could pick any villain for the GA to go up against, who would he choose. SA: "Well, I don't know." He then asked RA, who replied, "Who can I play?" SA then said that they have so many great villains still "lurking around", like Deathstroke and the Dark Archer. Finally SA said that he likes the Riddler, "The Riddler's probably my favorite villain." If anyone ever asks him what villain he would like to play, it's the Riddler. -- SA said that you never know what JB's going to be doing. He might be operating a camera when he wasn't even supposed to be on set that day. When they lay down a scene with 6 people, they set down marks on the ground. Everyone has a different color tape. SA's tape color is green, DR's tape color is blue. He doesn't know what everyone else's tape colors are. SA said that the guy who lays the tape down went from Arrow to The Flash, and "when he lay my marks down, he purposely did it in pink to piss me off." SA just looked at him and said, "what are you doing?" and the guy said, "I was just waiting for you to notice" and he put back the green. Anyway, they were doing a scene between 6 people, and everyone's moving around. It's a difficult job to lay the tape down as the actors are moving through. Typically, that person is really conspicuous as they're moving around and you're saying the lines. They finished blocking a scene and, all of a sudden, SA looked down and laying down the final mark is JB. SA: "He wasn't even supposed to work that day. Just in, doing random jobs. And the crew burst out in laughter. He laughs in his loud, maniacal cackly way when he's really excited. And then he was gone. Didn't even say bye. That's the John Barrowman experience, in a nutshell." -- SA said that they have a "super talented group of stunt coordinators and stunt performers." With the expanded universe (to Flash and LoT), former stunt guys (guys he "killed like 9 times" during season 1) are now stunt coordinators, coordinating episodes. -- Fan apparently asked about favorite scenes or great moments. In season 1, SA thought that the episode - where Tommy (CD) found out that Oliver is the Arrow and asked, "Were you ever going to tell me?" - was a real turning point for the show "both stylistically and just from a story perspective and a scale perspective". -- In season 2, when he had a series of flashbacks with Susannah Thompson from before Oliver went on the boat, those were some of SA's last scenes with ST, and he was proud of them. -- In season 3, SA said that he's "most proud of his fight with Ra's al Ghul on top of the mountaintop." Having just complete work on a feature film (TMNT2), he knew that that kind of scene would've taken a week of shooting if done in a movie. As it was, they had to shoot that scene in a day, with not a lot of workable sun, shootable daytime. It was October, November in Vancouver. SA: "What we accomplished in a day, I'm incredibly proud of." -- After SA shot the pilot for Arrow, he was in a store when RA called him and went "Wooo!" SA asked, "What's going on ?" and RA said, "Well, your show got picked up." SA immediately checked on Deadline, put it on facebook, put it on twitter, and then called RA and went, "Wooo!" He then looked at the guy who was standing at the cash register and said, "I'll take everything I was looking at." He then got a screener of the pilot that he watched with RA and their friends. -- Fan apparently asked about Felicity's double entendre line, "It feels really good having you inside me. And by ‘you.’ I mean your voice. And by ‘me,’ I mean my ear." SA: "You just know that the writers have, like, just a giant list - they probably have a chalkboard full of double entendres. Because, listen, a lot of the people who write our show are - were originally sort of, uh, came up in writing stuff that's a little bit more the tone of The Flash in terms of - it's a little bit funny, it's little bit funnier, it's a little bit snappier, it's a a little more quirky. And Arrow was, in many ways, Arrow was a reaction to Smallville, a little bit, inasmuch as, you just wanted to make something different. It's not better or worse. You just wanted to make something different. And so you found - I think one of the reasons that people responded to Felicity, aside from Emily's performance, was that the writers really knew how to write for that character, and write those double entendres and the sentence fragments, and all those things, so um, yeah, that was a good one." RA: "It's much cuter when she says it to you than when Victor says it to me." SA: "Victor Garber can say anything he wants to me." -- Female fan said that her boyfriend asked her to be his girlfriend by saying, "Will you be the Felicity to my Oliver?" (audience went 'ahhh' and clapped) Moderator said, "Hope they stay together on the show." SA: "That's very dark." -- SA said that KC couldn't pronounce Nanda Parbat, she was saying "Amanda Poorbutt", so there's a scene in the blooper reel for S3 "where we're just dying." SA also had a problem with a word. He was weight training, hit his mouth and bit his tongue, and had a lisp for a few days, so he had a line in which he had to say the word "synopsis" and he could not say it. That made people laugh. He'll probably have to dub a few lines, except for one. He had this scene with DR in episode 403 where DR said, "You think?" SA then had to say, "Could be a coincidence" and he said, "Could be a cointhithence" because of his lisp. He asked to change the line to "I don't agree." -- Fan asked if Oliver brushed his teeth on the island. SA said that he probably didn't or he did it like they do on Survivor, using sand, or maybe he just didn't care.

Thanks for the nice comments, but if they kill off Felicity, I'm out of here...

One of my fave media reviewers of Arrow eps - Laura Hurley is joining CinemaBlend as a TV contributor. So she's now writing for Examiner, CinemaBlend and WhatCulture, as well as her own tumblr articles.

Spoiler Room: Scoop on The Flash, Once Upon a Time, Arrow and more BY NATALIE ABRAMS • Posted September 11 2015 — 12:00 PM EDT http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/11/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-arrow-spoilers

Spoiler Room: Scoop on The Flash, Once Upon a Time, Arrow and more BY NATALIE ABRAMS • Posted September 11 2015 — 12:00 PM EDT http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/11/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-arrow-spoilers

Thank you, that's very sweet! But plenty of people here bring news and spoilers, so you'd be fine. :)

I got 9 (out of 12) correct, for a final score of 9-1/2 - enough for Oliver to want to recruit me to his team!... Do You Know Absolutely Everything About "Arrow"? Created byJack Stein on September 11, 2015 http://www.playbuzz.com/jackstein10/do-you-know-absolutely-everything-about-arrow?utm_source=Twitter.com&utm_medium=smff&utm_campaign=do-you-know-absolutely-everything-about-arrow

I have stopped regularly visiting some other show forums here for any of the following reasons: The show went on hiatus and I'm not interested enough to stay invested during the break. I still watch the show but am not interested enough to keep up online via a fan forum. I lost interest in the show, period (for no particular reason). The show did something that was a 'deal-breaker' for me and I stopped watching it. I still watch the show but found the forum's environment too hostile, contentious or stress-inducing to me. For Arrow, I think I'd stop coming to this forum for reasons 4 or 5. Most likely, I'd post a note in the Small Talk thread first.

Lots of fan recognition of SA... 20 Underrated Actors Who Deserve Some Emmy Love Jarett Wieselman posted on Sept. 11, 2015, at 2:54 p.m http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/underrated-actors-who-deserve-some-emmy-love#.nlBKkbkMM

Arrow is currently in 2nd place in this poll for "Which Show has the Most Anticipated Season Premiere?"... Most Anticipated Season Premieres 2015/2016 http://show-reviews.weebly.com/

https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/642408110628298752

More love for Arrow stunts... ARROW'S BEST FIGHT SCENES BY JESSE SCHEDEEN 10 SEP 2015 http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/10/arrows-best-fight-scenes

Bratva will probably come into the flashbacks later in this season - or next season. Maybe it was Oliver's last stop before returning to the island. Maybe I'm slow, but I just realized that the reason Diggle's helmet is open in back is because the visor slides from back, over the head, and onto the front to cover his face - then slides back over to cover the back of his head when he wants to expose his face.... I think.

This was seriously awful - probably the worst series finale of a show that I've ever seen. I've watched series finales that I didn't like because I didn't like where the characters ended up or I didn't understand/like where the story ended up. But this UtD series finale was just bad all around - bad writing, bad execution, bad acting. It's like everyone just gave up and went through the motions of wrapping up this show. Yet they still kept in the teasers as to new storylines that would've continued into next season (if there had been a new season) with Big Jim(!) leading the survivors to find Dawn, Nori (in disguise?) going military to find and rescue Joe, and Dawn planning to start up another Dome - not to mention Barbie's interrupted marriage proposal to Julia! (rme)