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More kudos from the TV Upfronts... Upfronts 2016: The Overachievers by Nellie Andreeva • May 20, 2016 4:56pm http://deadline.com/2016/05/upfronts-2016-the-overachievers-tv-producers-deadline-1201760180/

The Arrow Death That Affected Oliver The Most, According To Stephen Amell BY LAURA HURLEY, REPORTING; GREG WAKEMAN 18 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Arrow-Death-Affected-Oliver-Most-According-Stephen-Amell-139517.html * * * ... Oliver of Season 1 did an awful lot of killing as the Hood, and an awful lot of that killing could have been avoided. The heartbreak of losing his best pal when his best pal thought that his methods were wrong was enough to push Oliver toward the superhero straight-and-narrow of not killing. Oliver has suffered plenty of tragedies in the present over the four seasons so far, but none has changed the course of his mission nearly as much as the death of Tommy Merlyn. * * * The friendship between Oliver and Tommy was actually one of the best elements of Season 1. Stephen Amell and Colin Donnell had a great chemistry as best buddies, and Tommy learning Oliver’s costume-laden secret was a turning point of the whole season. For all that Oliver hopped between beds and love interests in the first season, his most important non-familial relationship was with Tommy. It’s hard to imagine that any other death, circa Season 1 or otherwise, might have had the same effect on Oliver as Tommy’s. Stephen Amell mentioning Tommy as the death that affected Oliver most is a solid reminder that he’s been one of the most consistently good aspects of Arrow from the very beginning. Amell has carried the show through some dark times, and it’s nice to know that all of the magic and all of the superpowers of seasons since haven't eclipsed for him the importance of Tommy Merlyn in Oliver’s journey.

Emertainment Monthly's very positive review of 422... ‘Arrow’ Review: “Lost in the Flood” May 20, 2016 Nora Dominick ‘17 http://emertainmentmonthly.com/2016/05/20/arrow-review-lost-flood/ .

USA Today's mostly positive review of 422... Allison Brennan and Lavinia Kent recap 'Arrow' episode 'Lost in the Flood': Is hope all we have? By: Allison Brennan and Lavinia Kent May 20, 2016 6:00 pm http://happyeverafter.usatoday.com/2016/05/20/allison-brennan-lavinia-kent-arrow-recap-lost-in-the-flood/

jbuffyangel's positive review of 422... TRUE HOPE: (LOST IN THE FLOOD) ARROW 4X22 REVIEW MAY 21, 2016 @ 00:48 http://jbuffyangel.tumblr.com/post/144688204743/true-hope-lost-in-the-flood-arrow-4x22-review Can't watch this enough:

Three If By Space's generally positive review of 422... Arrow 422 Review: “Lost in the Flood” Of Chaos By: Alisha Bjorklund May 20, 2016 http://www.threeifbyspace.net/2016/05/arrow-422-review-lost-flood-chaos/#.V0BocPkrLIU

This looks really good... Star Trek Beyond | Trailer #2 | Paramount Pictures International Published on May 20, 2016

Jessica Breaux's critical review of 422... Arrow “Lost in the Flood” Review (Season 4, Episode 22) Jessica Breaux May 20, 2016 http://www.tvequals.com/2016/05/20/arrow-lost-in-the-flood-review-season-4-episode-22/

I don't have a twitter account and have no problem embedding tweets here. I copy and paste the tweet's url link into a reply here. Then I put my cursor at the end of the url link (not on the next line) and press Enter. The tweet immediately shows up. I do the same thing with youtube links. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I work on a laptop and use a mouse (prefer that because it gives me more control).

Craig Wack & Tatiana Torres discuss Arrow 422 beginning at 1:11:26... Agents of GEEK Podcast Episode 29 Posted on 05/20/2016 http://agentsofgeekpodcast.com/wordpress/ -- Tatiana liked Arrow more than The Flash this week. However, Craig liked The Flash a little more than Arrow this week "just because The Flash was more reminiscent of The Flash he liked [from season 1]" and "that was kind of a nice treat compared to what we got the rest of the season." -- Craig still had problems with Darhk's whole plan, although now they explained how he was going to power the dome. Tatiana noted that he was nuking the Earth in order to give himself more power from all those deaths. -- Craig said that they have these two stories, one of which was "this nice Felicity story" where there were these competing hackers with her old boyfriend and where Curtis finally showed up, after being missing last week when he could've helped them stop that town from being nuked "if he had only been in his f*cking office." However, he also thought that having Curtis present this week helped give a nice perspective of someone watching the Smoak parents bickering. -- Tatiana was really angry at Donna's telling Noah to leave again because she felt that it was Felicity's decision whether or not to tell her father to leave: "She's a f*cking adult, she can decide whether she wants her father to be in her life, she knows what the dangers are, she knows that Noah's a criminal... it's not f*ckin' up to you. And frankly, that wasn't up to you when she was a kid either. Like, you robbed your kid of time with her dad. Yes, would there be a possibility that he would've gone back to his life of crime? ... But you don't know that. That's not your call to play God and make those judgments... So I was very unhappy with Mama Smoak at the end of episode." Craig and Tatiana said that they are very "pro Felicity on her own" so they were happy that she got her own storyline. -- In the other story, Craig noted that Anarky played "a huge role in forming and setting up the finale." Tatiana said that if Oliver and Diggle were trying to find someone and be secretive about it, "maybe take off your masks as you're walking through the middle of the neighborhood." Maybe they should've stolen some of same grey uniforms that everyone was wearing, instead of being so obvious. -- Craig laughed over the obvious body double for Thea's dead boyfriend. Tatiana said: "That was the worst. I mean it was so obvious... Alex had short spiky hair, and this dude had this f*cking Beatles moptop. I mean, they didn't even try." Craig said that "they didn't even try to put any pomade in his hair." It was like they just found someone who fit that shirt and told him to lay there for a couple hours and "let Willa Holland wallow on you for a little while." Craig then said: "Yet they keep bringing Katie Cassidy back. I'm not saying, I'm just saying... That's the end of my tinfoil hat brigade of Laurel's not dead... I'm not letting it go, guys. I'm not letting it go." -- After recapping what Anarky did in the control center because he felt betrayed by Darhk, Craig said: "For all you wannbe evil masterminds out there, always take care of your minions... Give them the love, attention and regular tick baths that it requires to keep them happy." -- They noted that one arrow shot to the coolant tank caused the whole thing to collapse and noted that the coolant tank should've been better protected. Craig thought that Darhk's daughter might be a wild card in the finale. -- Tatiana said that there's one episode left "and clearly there's bigger sh*t going on," but "five percent of my brain, which is the opposite of the other 95%, because I know there's bigger fish to fry ... this is all a very cool story, but when are Felicity and Oliver going to get back together?" They both laughed. She noted that this week Felicity hugged Oliver and said "I'm glad you're not dead," and he's like, 'cool, but expound on that a little bit, baby?' Craig then said: "Can they pull a Flash and go to the other room and have a heart-to-heart?" Tatiana said that they really need that because it'll help her "cope with whatever nonsense we're going to have to cope with next week." Craig asked that the show take care of that, just take a couple minutes: "We could've done without the Mama Smoak folding episode and spent a little more time on Oliver and Felicity, maybe." -- Tatiana noted that there was "only two seconds of Lance" and "why would you have Lance watch the f*cking computers? Lance doesn't know computers." Craig said it was like they had to have him in the episode, just like they had to have John Barrowman in the episode. -- Craig noted that Felicity went from being devastated at having caused thousands of deaths to having to solve this problem with her dad and having a beer with Curtis. Tatiana noted there was so much levity in those scenes, despite the fact that they just nuked a town. Flash: -- Tatiana said that they acknowledged Laurel's death "in the least emotional way ever." Craig said: "We learn the news in the show that Laurel's dead from Laurel's doppelganger, who is Black Siren, who is an evil Earth 2 doppelganger... She's the first one to say, like, Laurel's dead.... And then the most emotional response was, like, when Harry Wells was, like, 'who's this?' ... 'oh, did we know this person?' ... And then we get from Danielle Panabaker, 'oh, not only did we know her, we loved her' ... And that's it." Then Tatiana said: "Except we haven't talked about her at all. We haven't mentioned that Barry went to her funeral. We didn't go to her funeral. We haven't talked about it. She's been dead - where does this put it in the timeline? Like, it raises so many more questions than it answered, you know what I mean?" They noted that Barry had just gotten his powers back at the end of the last episode, so when did he have time to go to the funeral? So, was the funeral before that, but no one happened to mention that Laurel was dead? -- They noted that Black Siren is now "locked up" in the basement because "Katie Cassidy needs a job." There will be more opportunities for her to guest star on the shows, since BS could easily escape and "find her way to Star City or somewhere." Tatiana noted that all of these superhero shows need better security for their lairs, labs and prisons.

Meanwhile, in the Marvel Universe - lots of Thor movie casting news... Cate Blanchett joins Thor: Ragnarok as Marvel Studios' first major female supervillain By Kwame Opam on May 20, 2016 05:21 pm http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/20/11723448/thor-ragnarok-cate-blanchett-female-supervillain-hela-marvel Jeff Goldblum, Karl Urban Join Marvel's 'Thor: Ragnarok' MAY 20, 2016 11:15am PT by Borys Kit http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/jeff-goldblum-karl-urban-join-896085 'Thor: Ragnarok': Meet the Newcomers to the Marvel Cinematic Universe MAY 20, 2016 12:22pm PT by Graeme McMillan http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/thor-ragnarok-marvel-cast-meet-896115

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Good read over at @SmoaknArrow about recent ratings... http://smoakandarrow.tumblr.com/post/144663388089/there-are-some-in-the-fandom-are-freaking-out-over

From that same fan (apparently includes part where DR and EBR crash SA's panel but only audio, which is more than okay ;))...

Comparison of superhero tv show ratings this week: Gotham (FOX) - 1.3 and 3.84 (final) Flash (CW) - 1.3 and 3.37 (final) Agents of SHIELD (ABC) (two-hour season finale) - 1.0 and 3.03 (both hours) (final) Arrow (CW) - 0.7 and 1.94 (final) LoT (CW) (season finale) - 0.7 and 1.85 (final) Last week: Gotham (FOX) - 1.2 and 4.67 (final) Flash (CW) - 1.3 and 3.52 (final) Agents of SHIELD (ABC) - 0.9 and 2.93 (final) Arrow (CW) - 0.8 and 2.16 (final) LoT (CW) - 0.7 and 1.89 (final)

The only way to reconcile the inconsistency would be if The CW sold fewer ads to run during The Flash (and used more promos). ETA: I meant to say "sold" but originally wrote "purchased" instead.

I don't think the Hawks are returning to LoT anytime soon, but did you notice the following dialogue at the end of last night's episode? Kendra: "Well, actually... we're not coming with you. With Savage gone, we want to start fresh, see what happens." Rory: "I give it three months, tops." Hmm... about the length of a summer hiatus, right? ;)

After all that spoiler speculation about Jara Zeimer's role as "Daughter" in 422, I don't think she even spoke a word!

More from The CW Upfronts... TV upfronts: CBS promises Good Wife spinoff; the CW goes big on superheroes Brian Moylan Thursday 19 May 2016 17.38 EDT http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/may/19/cbs-cw-tv-upfronts-good-wife-superheroes The 10 Most Memorable Moments From This Year's Upfronts Which network was the funniest, and which had the best Hamilton parody? By Jason Lynch May 20, 2016, 8:49 AM EDT http://www.adweek.com/news/television/10-most-memorable-moments-year-s-upfronts-171596

This is interesting, although I'm not sure what "marketer spend" means (I think it means what the companies - the "marketers" - are spending to advertise during that show)... Upfronts Spotlight: AT&T, Ford Among Top Marketers on The CW 5/19/2016 01:25:00 PM Eastern http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/currency/upfronts-spotlight-att-ford-among-top-marketers-cw/156662

And here's the Variety article that goes with the above pic... 10 Things We Learned From the CW Upfront Presentation Cynthia Littleton MAY 19, 2016 | 10:03AM PT http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/cw-supergirl-season-2-crossover-the-flash-arrow-1201778750/

Here's another pic where SA appears to be grimacing smiling...

It's interesting that the mystery writers were Arrow fans, @thegirlsleuth. Remember this 2012 interview with MG (before Arrow debuted)?...

I'm not a comics reader. So when I see a guy in a hood appearing mysteriously out of the dark on a superhero tv show, I think "Arrow" now.