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jbuffyangel got tix to SA's "second Nerd HQ Panel" (I'm assuming she means the Friday one) - which I'm glad about, because it means we'll get a detailed recap of that panel... http://jbuffyangel.tumblr.com/post/147601540653/i-got-stephen-amell-nerd-hq

What a shipper...

Lexi Alexander will not be directing an episode this season...

CR is Charlotte Ross (Donna) and AMA is Audrey Marie Anderson (Lyla). SDCC is also an opportunity to introduce new cast members - for JS, RG, MMcL, CLC, CP and TR, see Spoilers thread. Other regular cast members may be attending - I just haven't seen any confirmation yet. Maybe in the next few days (check tweets)?

Arrow people that we know for sure (based on panels and tweets) will be at SDCC - SA, DR, EK, JB, KL, Blake Neely, Beth Schwartz Arrow people that we expect will be at SDCC - GB, AK, MG, WM Arrow people that we don't know for sure yet will be at SDCC - EBR, WH, PB, CR, AMA, JS, RG, MMcL, CLC, CP, TR

SA facebook video from yesterday (the only spoilers mentioned in this video are about the )... ...

UPDATED! All SDCC 2016 and related events* featuring Arrow cast and/or crew this upcoming weekend... THURSDAY, JULY 21: 11:00am - The 4th Annual Musical Anatomy of a Superhero (panelists include Blake Neely (Arrow, Flash, LoT, Supergirl)) *11:00pm - Conan (TV): The CW Heroes (guests include Stephen Amell, Grant Gustin and Melissa Benoist) http://teamcoco.com/schedule FRIDAY, JULY 22: 10:30am - Intro to TV Writing (panelists include Beth Schwartz (Arrow)) *3:00pm - Nerd HQ: A Conversation with Stephen Amell [sold out] http://registration.thenerdmachine.com/conversation-schedule 4:15pm - TV Guide Magazine's Fan Favorites (panelists include David Ramsey (Arrow), moderated by Damian Holbrook) 8:30pm - Romance in Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror (panelists include Katrina Law (Arrow)) SATURDAY, JULY 23: 3:30pm - Doctor Who and Torchwood Comics (panelists include John Barrowman) 5:45pm - Arrow Special Video Presentation and Q&A (panelists not yet identified, moderated by Jarett Wieselman) SUNDAY, JULY 24: *9:00am - Nerd HQ: Stephen Amell [sold out] http://registration.thenerdmachine.com/conversation-schedule 2:00pm - Anything Goes with John Barrowman ETA: Nerd HQ's website (under "Event Info") has a map that shows The Children's Museum as not that far from the San Diego Convention Center.

I actually agree that Arrow deserves an Emmy nom for stunt coordination, if you're going to nominate shows like Gotham, Rush Hour and The Blacklist in this category... 5 Biggest Snubs of 2016 Emmy Nominations By Amanda Joyce Jul 18, 2016 05:00 PM http://www.themovienetwork.com/content/5-biggest-snubs-2016-emmy-nominations

So we get production art of and LoT gets production art of this...

Based on the EnStars spoiler (assuming it's true), I wonder if they're going to set up Tobias Church as the presumed Big Bad early on, but then it'll turn out that Adrian Chase is the stealth Big Bad for S5 - like, he starts off as a friendly, frenemy-type adversary for Oliver but you think he'll end up becoming an ally to Team Arrow, and then there's a 'shocking' reveal - perhaps at the end of the mid-season finale - when we find out his real agenda is to destroy the Green Arrow.

This is also a way to tell WBTV to stop overlooking Arrow maybe?...

I just edited my post above to add a transcription of BN talking about the flash forward scene.

From this Comic Book Central interview with BN (this interview took place right after 416 aired)... -- BN said that his first comic book was Aquaman and that he also loved Batman and Superman, but he never got into Green Arrow until he was scoring Arrow. -- BN said that "music has a way of dropping hints" and therefore he asked GB not to tell him anything or else he might drop hints in the music, even subconsciously. But if GB wants him to do that intentionally and if he fully knows where they're going, then he can allude to that (like add a sting if a character is going to become a villain). He likes to score shows from the audience's perspective. -- BN said that he's never done music for shows with such "rabid fanbases" before, who look for everything and comb through everything. He said he got a tweet the other day that said, 'We noticed that you added one piano note to Felicity's theme in episode whatever'. In that case, it didn't mean anything - maybe his finger slipped or lingered too long on one note. -- BN said that he does leave clues. His most fun clue was when Slade first appeared and he laid hints that he would be Deathstroke. So when you watch the first full Deathstroke episode, you'll note musical elements that were there when we first met Slade. In The Flash, he set up a clue for the Reverse Flash's theme in the pilot scene where Barry's mother was murdered. -- BN said that the history of comic books is built on a mythology, so if they're not all doing their part to make sure that mythology is right, then they're "busted." (For example, you can't use the sister's theme for the girlfriend.)* He has no idea how the LoT writers are pulling it off with three different shows and different timelines. (* If I had the time and the inclination, I'd track the music for Felicity from S1 to S4, to see if it changed over the course of the show.) -- Interviewer noted that movies used to have memorable character themes (like Superman and Indiana Jones), but now he can't think of an Iron Man theme or a Captain America theme. BN said that he thinks that there's now an oversaturation of comic book movies, with many more comic book movies coming out each year than there used to be. He also noted that Iron Man has had three movies and three composers and that Avengers has had three movies and two or three composers, so there's some oversaturation and confusion. He also said that traditional film scoring was all about the theme, but modern film scoring is all about the mood. -- BN said that GB is "insistent on iconic themes," memorable and classic themes. -- BN did the score for Everwood, which started his association with GB. He had a fear of scoring two superhero shows when The Flash started because it was so different from Arrow. But now he's scoring four superhero shows. Supergirl was a kind of different show and different style. And he had already written themes for a lot of the LoT characters, so he couldn't turn that down. -- When he first got the gig for Arrow, BN and GB were just coming off Brothers and Sisters and some family dramas and comedies and Eli Stone. So BN was told by GB that Arrow "is very different" and he was directed by GB to go "dark" (biggest adjective) and "very emotional." BN: "Greg's thing is, he's always pushing the human element through his stories. I don't care whether we're dealing with comic books or teenagers or, you know, vampires - he hasn't done that yet but - um, it's always going to be about the human drama and if you don't have the emotion, you lose the audience, that's - he always says that. Um, even in the comedic moments - like find the way to - it's got to be emotional comedy. So it was always supposed to be emotional and dark. And then what I wanted to do with it is make it sort of like a comic book opera, so it's a little bit over the top in every way. Um, but the best direction Greg ever gave me is, once we got started, we got to episode 2, and he said, 'as we get into this series, don't ever forget that we're making a comic book.' And that was it. He left it to my interpretation and I've always thought that was great direction because it's basically saying, 'make it big, make it fun, make it entertaining,' but also leaving it to me what that was." -- When Arrow started, BN said that there were certain things that the audience expected and if you watch the pilot, there are elements there that were influenced by The Dark Knight, which was very popular then. He was definitely influenced by Hans Zimmer's score because the audience expected "big brass themes and chugging strings." But then he also wanted to make Arrow different by adding in "elements of electronic music and dub step and crazy stuff like that." He did that on every show, like for example, he added in elements of Bach to The Flash score. -- When asked to describe the "the Arrow sound", BN replied: "I describe it as heavy, um, mostly triumphant - although it's a dark, brooding triumphant. Um, yeah, it's always pretty heavy." (Then BN played a segment of the Arrow music to show what he always thinks of as the Arrow theme.) -- When BN first scored the music for the flash forward scene in 401 when Oliver and Barry are standing in front of the mystery gravesite, he didn't know who was in the grave and told the EPs not to tell him. But when he scored the flash forward scene that appeared in a later episode during the season, he had guessed who was in the grave. So he scored the scene a certain way based on his guess, alluding to the possible theme, and asked the EPs if it was okay to score it that way. He was told, "we aren't saying you're right or wrong, but choose a different theme."

From this Comic Book Central interview with DR (this interview took place right after 315 aired)... -- DR talked about two things that he never saw coming on the show: Sara's death leading to Laurel's becoming BC, and Oliver & Felicity's romance. DR: "No one saw Felicity and Oliver coming. Nobody saw that. I mean, Emily, to her great credit, was hired as a guest star on the show. And, um, no one saw that character morphing the way it did. And I've said publicly before, thank - I mean, thank God she did because me - you know, for the first several episodes, even half the season, it was just me and Stephen kinda brooding around Starling City fighting crime. And then you have, thank God, this comic relief in Emily Bett (interviewer interjects, "uh, breath of fresh air") coming in really - breath of fresh air. And - but even with that - and she could very well have stayed in that place where there was some comic relief and you kinda give her some one-liners and it really would stay that breath of fresh air, like you said . But to see the chemistry that she had with Stephen, and that kinda morphed into a romance between Felicity and Oliver - I don't think anyone called that. I think people - I think the fans probably hoped for it, but - but to see it really happen and become something else [unintelligible word] - nobody really knew that was coming." -- Interviewer asked if he thought Felicity should get together with Oliver or with Ray. DR: "Well, you know something? I think - I think Emily is such a - you know, she's one of these actresses that have - it's almost like she has chemistry with everyone that she works with. She has chemistry with Stephen. She has chemistry with - I mean, Oliver. She has chemistry with Ray Palmer. She has chemistry with Barry Allen. You know, so it's - she is one of those characters that Emily brings to Felicity that she could go around with any of these guys and you'd believe it. I can't say I don't like her with Ray Palmer because they really are kinda good together. Um, I think Diggle obviously sees Oliver and Felicity together - I think. Um, and to be honest with you, I had - David Ramsey had some questions with that as it began - I saw it written in the script - Would Diggle really be that way because wouldn't he see her as more of a liability? ... Because that was my concern with this... Would he fall in love with Felicity because Felicity, at the end of the day, working this closely, would she - because Diggle is an army guy, right, he's a military guy - would she be a liability ultimately? And, um, you know, I talked to Marc for awhile about it and he said, 'I think Diggle's position is that he's always kinda wanted Oliver to embrace his humanity.' And he took me back to that first speech when I joined the crusade and I said that 'whether you know it or not, killing people scrapes a little bit off your soul each time you do it, and you're going to need me to help you with that, to regain your humanity, to keep a hold of your humanity.' And he sees part of what he's doing with Felicity, in embracing a woman that he truly does love, as keeping that humanity intact and being closer to himself as a full - being closer to a full, rounded person. That's Diggle's position. That's part of what he helps Oliver become is a more fleshed-out human being. And, um, so I think, yes, Diggle probably does want the two of them together more than anyone else. I had some problems seeing that at first. But I think that ultimately she's a better match. And now that I 'm looking at the way - at what Ray Palmer's issues are - I think that he's really the same person as Oliver Queen, you know what I mean? She's - she's really attracted to the same guy.... What's pushing him is the grief that he has for the death of his wife... He hasn't dealt with his anger and his loss, the same way that Oliver hasn't dealt with all the things he's suffered with through the island, so they really are kinda of mirroring each other in a way. But I think that Oliver has the team, and Ray hasn't yet found his team. And in that team, there's a safety net, whether Oliver realizes it or not. And ultimately, I think that's the thing that Oliver has - he has a family. And, um, I think John Diggle recognizes that, probably more than anyone else. So I think he sees Oliver and Felicity together ultimately."

'Arrow,' 'The Flash,' 'Legends' and 'Supergirl': Ranking All the Crossovers So Far 9:00 AM 7/17/2016 by Sydney Bucksbaum http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/arrow-flash-legends-supergirl-ranking-911270 24. 'Vixen' – Season 1 23. 'The Flash' – "Power Outage" 22. 'Arrow' – "Beacon of Hope" 21. 'Arrow' – "Broken Arrow" 20. 'Legends of Tomorrow' – "Left Behind" 19. 'Legends of Tomorrow' – "Last Refuge" 18. 'Arrow' – "Taken" 17. 'Legends of Tomorrow' – "Legendary" 16. 'The Flash' – "King Shark" 15. 'The Flash' – "Who Is Harrison Wells?" 14. 'The Flash' – "All Star Team Up" 13. 'The Flash' – "Pilot" 12. 'The Flash' – "Going Rogue" 11. 'Legends of Tomorrow' – "Pilot, Part 1," "Pilot, Part 2" 10. 'Legends of Tomorrow' – "Star City 2046" 9. 'The Flash' – "Invincible" 8. 'Arrow' – "Haunted" 7. 'The Flash' – "Rogue Air" 6. 'Arrow' – "My Name is Oliver Queen" 5. 'Arrow' – "Green Arrow," "Canary Cry" 4. 'The Flash,' 'Arrow' – "Legends of Today," "Legends of Yesterday" 3. 'The Flash' – "Flash vs. Arrow" 2. 'Supergirl' – "World's Finest" 1. 'Arrow' – "The Scientist"

Note the Arrow poster hanging on the wall...

I can't believe I'm posting this, but TS responded, “Where is the video of Kanye telling me he was going to call me ‘that bitch’ in his song? It doesn’t exist because it never happened”... Taylor Swift hits back at Kanye West, Kim Kardashian after 'Famous' lyric video reveal http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/18/taylor-swift-kanye-west-famous-kim-kardashian Taylor Swift and Kanye West’s ‘Famous' Phone Call: Read the Full Transcript From Kim Kardashian’s Snapchat http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/heres-the-full-transcript-of-that-taylor-swift-kanye-phone-call-w429579

SA's workout versus GG's workout... Arrow Star Stephen Amell Shares Workout For Fitness Friday, Adds Protein To Healthy Diet Dylan Gonzalez, BA | Saturday, July 16, 2016 http://www.foods4betterhealth.com/arrow-star-stephen-amell-fitness-friday-adds-protein-to-healthy-diet-15478 The Flash Star Grant Gustin Talks Workouts And Coffee, Workout Different From Stephen Amell’s Emily Lunardo | Monday, July 18, 2016 http://www.foods4betterhealth.com/the-flash-star-grant-gustin-talks-workouts-and-coffee-workout-different-from-stephen-amells-15506

More replies to above CRhodes tweet...

Comic Book Central podcast interview with Jimmy Akingbola (Baron Reiter)... -- JA: "What Echo and Emily do, for me, they're the best things on the show, as well as Stephen, of course." -- JA said that he was "very familiar" with Arrow before he was cast and that he used to watch Smallville. He found Smallville "frustrating" so he was reluctant to watch Arrow, but once he started watching Arrow, he thought it was "another level". -- JA auditioned for Damien Darhk and his audition scene was when Green Arrow went to meet with Darhk. He was willing to do the audition using an American accent, but he was asked to use his UK accent. Afterwards, he was called back in to audition again using his UK accent in front of a lot more people, including "Wendy." As he left to take the elevator, he was called back once again to audition in front of MG. He then got a call that they loved him and that he was "penciled in". Then he found out that he didn't get the Darhk role because they decided to go older. But later he went back to audition for Baron Reiter using his American accent. He then researched the Reiter character. -- JA said that it's not clear whether Reiter is dead and that he believes Reiter was too powerful to be killed by a stab in the back. -- JA said that SA was happy about not having to wear the flashback wig. JA was also happy about that because he would've laughed in his scenes with SA if he was wearing that wig. -- JA was initially scheduled for four episodes, but he was written into more episodes because the producers liked what he was doing. Past Comic Book Central interviews with Arrow cast/crew: Echo Kellum (Episode 134 - July 14, 2016) [previously posted in this thread above] http://comicspodcasts.com/2016/07/14/comic-book-central-episode-134-echo-kellum/ Blake Neely (Episode 118 - March 26, 2016) http://comicspodcasts.com/2016/03/26/comic-book-central-episode-118-blake-neely/ David Ramsey (Episode 66 - March 7, 2015) http://comicspodcasts.com/2015/03/07/comic-book-central-episode-66-david-ramsey/

Alexander Calvert will be in episodes 2.12 (airing Aug. 16, 2016) and 2.13 (airing TBA) of Scream, the MTV tv show - this Scream poster seems strangely appropriate to his Arrow gig as well....

Gleason had its world premiere at the Sundance Film Festival in January and its L.A. premiere last week. As for more widespread release, it sounds like Amazon has picked up the U.S. rights but has not yet released it... http://www.nola.com/movies/index.ssf/2016/01/steve_gleason_documentary_pick.html Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Gleason-Clay-Tweel/dp/B01I2BH81W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468763765&sr=8-2&keywords=gleason+als

Gleason is a documentary about former NFL star Steve Gleason who was diagnosed with ALS - it premiered in L.A. on July 14...

CLotz, DPanabaker, RAmell and CRenee are also attending this comic con: http://bostoncomiccon.com/celebrity-guests/