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Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
NP, take it back! We have to stop everyone acting like Summer is Harrison's mommy! It's a travesty! I can't even! GAAAHH!!!! ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ Oh my gosh, I was sure I had seen it and I was going to come back and read it later Then later it wasn't there. Scary. Someone should do another remake of the old Three Stooges show and have Billy play all the roles. Larry, Moe, Curly, and Shemp. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
EB = moves like Jagger ๐ Billy = moves like he has food poisoning and a colony of fire ants in his tighty whities. ๐ผ -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Yeesh, just like Sharon, Tessa has to have all the jobs. In what world is a big-time musical artist and fashion model basically working as a maรฎtre d'? And if Tessa's ailing vocal cords are keeping her from recording more songs, how was she able to perform at Sharon's big corporate event at the jazz club recently? Of course Victoria bent the knee to Victor on his plan to use Claire to lure Jordan. All that arguing for nothing. I dunno Kyle, I think you should indeed be mad at Jack for now considering you unqualified for a Jabot job you've already held. Mariah's attempt at tough love over lunch wasn't helpful IMO. Seems to me Victoria wouldn't want Jordan to be tempted to come anywhere near her house. Apparently Vikki forgot, her home is where her ex Ashland Locke was killed. Bad juju. โ ๏ธ Chelsea, AFAIC you are utterly wrong for pitting your son's father against your boyfriend. You and Billy will break up eventually but Adam will always be Connor's daddy. ๐ถYou're gonna make it after all!๐ถ Claire, get out there and get to it. A year from now I expect you to be running NE. Meh, schmoopy Abby & Devon. ๐คฎ Claire was gushing over the Newman Ranch like it was the freaking Palace of Versailles or Hearst Castle. GMAFB. Someone should tell Claire the story of when crazypants Sharon torched the ranch and it burned to the ground. At this point I think the ranch is more nouveau riche than the Newman family itself. Wow, Traci actually referred to Harrison's "biological mother." She couldn't bother to mention Harrison's actual mommy's name though. Pshht. Free Tara! Such a poignant moment at the end. Claire was hugging Victoria as she stood in the place where she would've grown up if Jordan hadn't stolen her as a baby. But, sigh, I'm having a slightly nervous feeling that Claire might not survive the Victor vs. Jordan final battle. ๐ -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Claire having a meeting of the minds with Michael. I liked it. She seems to be growing more and more perceptive about the workings of the Newman family. Tucker, my guy, are you enoying being messy, listening to Audra and Ashley go at it over who you belong to? Don't make me start calling you Danny Romalotti's understudy. Sigh, how many times is Victoria going to have this same argument with Victor about using Claire to lure and trap Jordan? He'll never admit he might be making a mistake. I thought Tucker had already told Ashley they were over. Maybe Ashley's alternate personality needs to hear it for herself, lol. So part of Victor's plan is to move Claire onto the ranch where his security team can protect her. Heh, the first thing Claire's probably going to learn is that the Newman crackhead security team = useless. Tucker standing between Ashley and Audra with his trademarked little smirk. I think there should've been a thought bubble over his head which read, "Three-way!!!!" Was Ashley actually trying to wave her non-existent cleavage at Tucker? Aw, sweetie, guess you didn't notice Audra's bodacious rack pointing and laughing at you. Yeah, no, not a fan of people forcing kisses on other people. AFAIC that's an assault. Calm the eff down, Ash. One of Ashley's inner voices was telling her to wake up, and then it seemed like she did and was startled. Uh oh. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Whoo, savage! ๐ฅณ I heard once that the CBS soaps subscribe to the philosophy that good-looking people can be taught how to act easier than unattractive actors can be made beautiful. Maybe, but I think it's clear CF was hired mainly for his looks. (Also, two out of the last three actors to play Chance were Texans. Interesting coincidence.) Geez, I had no idea. Now I am indeed worried JG might actually write a DID story arc for Ashley since he probably feels like he has a proven track record on the subject. ๐ก More savagery. Love it. ๐ผ -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Bleh, Amanda and Phyllis. Worst BFFs ever. Billy: so, nephew, your little music festival proposal is cute and all but C-W is into bigger and better things. Chance: okay, thanks for giving my idea your consideration. I'll get back to work now. Billy: good. Chance: wait a minute, I have more to say. How well do you think one of my Marchetti Italian leather loafers will fit up your-- Joi: what? It could happen. Sure. Ashley certainly had Audra's number. She ain't scurred. But if bets were taken I'd put my money on Audra. To me she seems more like the type who'd kick off her stilletto pumps, remove her earrings, put Vaseline on her face, and proceed to kick some wackadoodle a$$. Mamie, not sure I'd call Amanda one of Jill's minions. She could probably tie your minor investor self up in complex legal maneuvers before Jill could blink twice. But Mamie, Chance is both a Chancellor and Jill's grandson. You should be insisting Nate stay away from Chance just like you did re Audra. Ugh, Billy's syrupy condescension toward Chance. Awful. Jill, please come get your child. ๐คฌ The Abbotts' main put down of Audra and Tucker is that they have no family. Well, family isn't everything, Jack and Ashley. Just ask Adam Newman. Or Theo Vanderway. "Glissade. A ragtag collection of moribund companies." Now there's a catchy business slogan. Thanks, Jack! ๐ค Chance told Abby he didn't realize Billy had so much baggage. Seriously? Billy might as well live on a GC airport luggage carousel after three full flights arrive from NYC, L.A., and London. Diverted from O'Hare due to weather. Whee! Bet Billy didn't wake up thinking he'd be getting read like the verbal equivalent of a CT scanner today. Amanda shut him up good. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
NOOOO!! Nowhere except on Y&R is he considered a major pull. Danny headlining the GC music festival will be worse than Woodstock '99. That's the thing though, I don't consider Jill an Abbott and I don't think the Abbotts do either. Is she even back to using Abbott as her last name again? The show seems to be looking for something to do with Billy and this renaming C-W thing is a random and unnecessary stretch to me. Yesterday I saw some speculation elsewhere that Ashley has developed Dissociative Identity Disorder. I sure hope not. DID became a big soap opera trope for a while and I think it got run into the ground as a plot device. Plus, DID is usually the result of severe sexual abuse during childhood and we know that is not in Ashley's history. Don't even try it, JG. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
You know what I don't understand, Esther? Why you're not at the coffeehouse making cafe mochas instead of giving unasked for advice about things you know virtually nothing about. Ehh, Audra, it's not a good look for you to keep grilling Tucker about Ashley. Either he's lying to you or he's not; either you trust him or you don't. Ashley is not your issue, she's Tucker's. Traci and Jacking agonizing over Ashley like she's high school girl with a crush on the resident bad boy. Do you two hear yourselves? Maybe you need to stop humoring Ashley and get her some professional help. Whoa, Esther hit the guilt trip trifecta when she was admonishing Billy and Devon. She managed to bring up not only Kay and Neil but also John Abbott. Look at Chance and Nate, stylin' and profiling in their GQ suits. ๐ฅณ I wish we had gotten to see Chance's whole presentation on his musical festival proposal. Billy was a Grade A jerk about it so it must have been impressive. Okay, Tucker finally came clean with Audra about finding Ashley in his suite. I'm not sure he should've done that though. It seemed to stoke Audra's jealousy. Did someone summon Billy to the Abbott manse to perform his wise old sage routine? Shut yer trap, William. WTF is Ashley up to? She must be counting on people not to compare notes on what she's said to them from one week to the next. Surprised to hear Tucker booking flights to Paris. I figured he had a private jet at the ready. ๐ค Man, Audra's lady bits are putting in that work with Tucker. She's wearing him out, lol. Poor Chance. He's finding out that C-W office politics are the worst, especially when aging nepo baby Billy's involved. At least Chance has Summer and Nate to give him the background dirt. Oh boy, here comes the Audra and Ashley showdown. I gotta give Audra points for having the guts to go into enemy territory. -
Curb Your Enthusiasm - General Discussion
Joimiaroxeu replied to Meredith Quill's topic in Curb Your Enthusiasm
Leon out here freeballing. A Tubman. Of the Underground Railroad Tubmans. Only Larry would make a condolence call and end up in a fight with the bereaved. Freddy said Larry was being railroaded. No. Just no, LD. Susie's sort of effeminate puppy needed a pronoun. Troy Kotsur. Good to see him on this silly show. Richard Lewis looked so frail to me. The thick makeup didn't help, IMO. That famous Beatles song, Hey Jew. OMG. Leon is a member of the big johnson community. But I've never understood the notion that well-endowed men are more fertile. Larry is usually callous but I think he took it to whole new level in this episode. And it's probably going to get worse. Having your pet get killed by a coyote is no joke, and I can't imagine the horror of seeing or hearing it while it's happening. -
As soon as you see people walking in Central Park in the dark you know they're either about to come up on a dead body or become a dead body. L&O 101. What was with the jiggly camera work while Shaw and Riley were interviewing the woman who found the victim's corpse? All three of them were standing still and it didn't appear to be particularly windy outside. The first guy they arrested described a hat with an orange letter. My immediate thought was a Syracuse student or alumni. But duh, Princeton is closer to NYC. Of course. They arrested the coffee and donuts vendor and he just had to leave his truck open and unattended? Better judge this week versus last week's. She wasn't automatically overruling the prosecution's objections. So when you cheat on your wife, your friends who are aware of it can count on you not to rat them out when they murder someone; bonus points if your father is the mayor. Good to know. Jack McCoy FT final W. Look upon his works ye mighty and despair. I'm not crying, you're crying! Yes, Sam Waterston, it has been an amazing ride. Take care.
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The cold open was rough. I was surprised SNL took it as far as they did. But it mainly seemed to be built on Devon Walker's resemblance to the senator he portrayed. So you get fired from SNL and then you get to host. Who is this guy? Did Loren Michaels lose a lawsuit for wrongful termination? Whatever, not much about the monologue made sense to me. Never thought I'd ever say thank goodness for 21 Savage. Oheeo. Reggae church be jammin'. Rock Bottom Kings is probably not far off from happening. Prop betting has gotten unbelievable, especially when attached to major sports events. I'm not familiar with how strip clubs work. Would that clueless HR meeting guy have had $1500 in ones, fives, tens, or twenties? Booty khakis. Hello. Did SNL actually buy those sneakers or where they imitations? Whoever this Gillis guy is, he does a better 45 than JAJ. Sorry but no one on SNL is handsome enough to portray Rob Lowe. His genes are undefeated, so far. I've never watched The Floor but one thing I've noticed about Jeopardy is when the category has to do with Black people and there are no Black contestants, the category usually goes down in flames. And I've often thought it was because non-Black contestants didn't want to give wrong answers that could make them look racist. Wonder how Stephen King feels about 21 Savage's "redrum"? I wasn't sure if it's quite an homage to The Shining so much as "here's Johnny" is an easy reference for insane violence. WU: Read that Bane joke on reddit earlier in the week. Bitch too skinny. Ouch. The frozen embryo bit reminded me of this. I forgot this is a leap year. Thanks, Colin! Oh wait Love Bowen but his Truman Capote was off. It was low energy and he didn't quite have Capote's voice. The line comparing women to kombucha was killer. Forrest Gump as a billionaire, which in 1985 was way more of a rarity than it is now. Okay, low rent sex dolls makes sense but Fugliana seemed to be for men who don't really like women. Summer Walker saved that second 21 Savage performance. Green Bay Packers sex toys. So, do the NFL/NBA jump on the idea for marketing purposes, or do they start looking for existing products so they can sue for copyright infringement? That was a weird moment between the host and 21 Savage during the signoff. It looked literally staged. Awkward. Cut for time sketch: Dang, LiMu the Emu is gangster.
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Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Out in soap opera forum world elsewhere, I saw a Colleen Zenk interview where she talks about the Jordan disguise she's wearing with the wig and glasses. CZ said the wig is from back when she played late actress Tallulah Bankhead on Broadway. Do Y&R actors have to supply their own costumes now? This show is so cheap! Anyhoo, here's how the Jordan wig (plus extensions) looked in 2013: Yeah, there's another thing making me nervous about TSJ's future as Tucker. If Billy takes ownership of the turtlenecks what's Tucker going to have to distinguish his look? I have no problem believing Mamie grew the money to $10 million. I just wonder how she got it back into the US legally since she seemingly had it invested in offshore tax havens courtesy of Tucker. The original $1M Jill gave Mamie was probably iffy too. According to Wikipedia, in the Maltese language Adura means to adore or to worship. Cool. ๐ -
The kids moshing to I'm a Little Teapot. Gee willikers, Janine! For a minute I thought Jessca was being played by Lady Gaga. I did not know weed made your feet big. Mr. Johnson's always bringing the little known "facts," lol. How does the Jubi slide work? Per the YouTube videos I saw it's like actually defying gravity. Slimothy from F.A.D.E. was worse than Tariq. If he weren't so cringe he would've been veering into cultural appropriation territory. Jessca's week was exceptionally mid. Hate when that happens. Jacob paid $200 for a literal box of air. And yeah, how did Ava know Jacob vaped throughout Saltburn? Did they go see it together? Maybe they both enjoyed gazing upon male nudity.
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Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
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Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
That's what I was saying, Tucker! Why does Nate hang out at the GCAC so much? Hi again, little cutie Nadia. Hey, MichaelBaldwin. Long time no get summoned to the ranch by Victor. Isn't Claire under some kind of indictment? She actually committed felonies in both WI and OR. Since her name doesn't rhyme with Willis Hummers, I don't see how she gets to skip out on legal punishment. Victoria and Cole in matching colors. Interesting. Meanwhile, Audra wears a lot of black outfits. Hmm. ๐ค Aw, yiss, Nate and Tucker having a d!ck-swinging contest in the middle of the GCAC dining room. Let's go, fellas! WTF was that psychobabble Ashley was handing Traci on why she now sees Tucker in a more understanding light? Within the past week or so Ash has threatened him and Audra. Wackadoodles gonna wackadoodle, I guess. Ehh, Victor you can't have it both ways. Either you're the one bad m.f.-er who can take down Jordan, or you're a bit of a coward who has to use your emotionally damaged new granddaughter to do your dirty work. Oh okay, Michael explained why Claire can be released from imprisonment in a psychiatric hospital after less than a couple of months. There's always a convenient loophole when the Newmans are involved. Ashley bald-faced lying to Traci about her new attitude toward Tucker didn't bode well to me. At least Traci seemed a bit skeptical. Claire is a tough cookie who does not simply fall under TGVN's sway. I like that. She was deftly handling Victor today and letting him think she'd be awed by his benevolence. Vikki, have you met your daddy? Of course he went behind your back and ignored your wishes wrt using Claire to reel in Jordan. Stop acting brand new. Re the previews: First, Audra stepping to Ashley on Ashley's home turf. Whee! ๐ถYou ain't woman enough to take๐ถ Audra's man, Ash. Second, Mamie's hair!!!!!! I am unable to can. ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ฑ -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
IKR? Whenever Chloe isn't leaching off Sally, she's attached herself like a barnacle to Chelsea. I think if Sally weren't so desperate for someone she can sort of call a friend, she wouldn't put up with Chloe steady trashing the man Sally loves. Chloe has good reason to hate Adam, but if she can't rein in her feelings AFAIC she shouldn't be working with Sally. I have it on the q.t.: SLPBS are going to play at TSwift's engagement party to TKelce. Something about their name resonated with Tay-Tay. ๐ -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Thank you Julyolo for expressing this much better than I barely did in the heat of the moment. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
^^^Except for the part where Audra hasn't been characterized as a gold digger and isn't married to British royalty. The Royals forum got shut down in large part because of the divisive stuff being posted about the Duchess of Sussex. I continue to wonder why it's being brought to this forum. Oh, okay. I thought he said "intern" and figured BJ was doing a poor job of reading off cue cards or something. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Chloe mentioned needing to make rent on her and Sally's office space. Is it literally in space because we never see it. Chelsea's hairdo. Yikes. She looked like an alien with a turd on its head to me. Victor, Adam is in love with Sally and they're a couple. How is wanting her to have no financial obligation to Nick Adam's way of stirring up trouble? You don't even like Sally so what's it to you? Nikki is a lot. If she's not imposing on Jack, she's making Lauren be her sobriety babysitter. Hope Lauren is getting paid well as the temporary Newman Media COO since it seems to involve plenty of non-work-related activities. Not sure why Chelsea and Adam were acting like Connor having OCD would be the end of the world. Or why Sharon had to take time out of her busy day being the CEO of an international tech company (๐) to tell them to consult specialists. And what was going on with Sharon's hair? Is she letting her dark roots grow out? Okay. This might be one time I agree with Chloe. IMO going back under NE's thumb promises to be a mistake for her and Sally's boutique design company. They don't need the increased, controlling scrutiny of Adam and Victor. Too bad Jordan can't use her powers for good. She is next-level at twisting words to manipulate people. Seth's head was practically spinning from listening to her. Wait, what? Victor said Claire is in a maximum security hospital. That must be why anyone can walk into her unlocked room whenever they want, especially if their last name is Newman. Oh please, Billy, you're the last thing Connor needs right now. I think Chelsea really shouldn't have been lowkey encouraging Billy to circumvent Adam's parental influence. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
But Phyllis doesn't wear underwear, does she? She has to let her cooch breathe free in case an opportunity for dumpster sex suddenly arises. I still think Summer should tell Chance about what Billy did. However, it seems like word went out in soap forum world a few weeks ago that it's a dead issue and no one should be bringing it up anymore. Whatever. Yeah, I don't get that either. Neil was once CEO of Chancellor Industries, and Dru and Neil got married their first time on the Chancellor estate. Other than those two things I don't know of any tie on Lily's part at all. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Yes, Nate told Chance he had already tried and failed to get a similar idea past Devon. However, he encouraged Chance to go forward with it. Chance might have more success since he's related to Jill and Billy, but the brewing Abbotts vs. Winters battle might be further inflamed. This is the second reference within a week to special types of wines. Wonder what that's all about? I was taken aback yesterday at how small the Newman ranch living room set is now. The Abbott manse set is smaller too but IMO it's less noticeable because the interior decoration is so busy. Then the show has half the characters living in what seems to be the same room at the GCAC. What has happened to Y&R is so sad to me. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Collaborative. There's a word I would've never applied to Billy. Whatchutalkinbout, Nate? (And now I can't stop focusing on Nate's suit buttons. Sigh.) Yay, Amanda's back! Loved her hair. Wait, Amanda is acting as chief legal counsel of Chancellor-Winters? I thought that was Heather. ๐ค Chase defending Billy to Nate was not on my Wednesday WTFery bingo card. Phillip IV is a loyal nephew to his uncle. Phyllis apparently subscribes to the "if I keep repeating my lies over and over they'll eventually become true" theory. Shut up, you thirsty slag. Of course Christine showed up at Daniel's place too. ๐ Gah, Danny needs to get restraining orders on those yappy broads. Wow, Phyllis admitted she doesn't believe in boundaries. This is my shocked face. I don't know about Amanda going to Abby to get a read on Devon. Abby has no reason to contradict Devon behind his back. What are you up to, Amanda? A music festival. Hmm. Seems to me Minneapolis or Chicago would already have that kind of entertainment event covered for that area of the US. I dunno about your bright idea, Chance. Danny mentioned his next concert tour. Come on, who under the age of 72 is paying to see him? Him or his lacquered hair. ๐ผ Leave it to Lauren to be the one to switch the light bulb on above Danny's trying-to-juggle-two-women head. Thanks bunches, Lauren. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Yeah, to me too. I got a really bad feeling when Tucker was acting so happy with Audra. Also when he walked into his suite and Ashley was sitting there in the dark. It could've been a good time for her to whip out her Glock and end the Paris bistro argument once and for all. Maybe someone in TPTB is doing the actor a favor by giving him this random role. The character of Seth was pulled out of thin air and I think he will likely disappear the same way. -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Lol, Nikki was acting like she wanted to sniff Seth's breath to see if she could get a contact buzz. Why was Nate loitering around the GCAC? He doesn't live there and isn't dating anyone who has a room there. He wasn't having a late business meeting either. ๐ค Audra actually said she's in love with Tucker. A few days ago she was thisclose to seducing Nate. Girl, bye. Adam: I have a surprise for you, Sally! Sally: oh yeah? What is it? Adam: that there is no surprise. My dad kiboshed it because he hates you. Sally: um, thanks for letting me know? Why was Victor running around at night instead of staying home to protect Nikki? Plus it must've been past his bedtime. Still surprised Seth doesn't already have an AA sponsor. Tucker, are you dense? When Ashley said she wanted peace, what she meant was a piece o' dat a$$. She's setting up the tried and true, "you don't dump me, I dump you" play, to be executed right after she gets you in bed one more time. Ashley trying to throw down with Audra. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL! Go on with your batsh!t self, Ash. Audra can see you coming down Broadway like the Snoopy float. I'm thinking Sally should flip the script on Adam and Victor by going to Tucker for the investment in her design business. She needs to be free of the Newmans financially. Oh no, Tucker straight up lied to Audra about having just met with Ashley in his suite. Darn. ๐ -
Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat
Joimiaroxeu replied to ByTor's topic in The Young And The Restless
Audra & Tucker. It was nice to see a couple laughing and enjoying each other in the afterglow. No taking some kind of sweaty stroll through nooner Bizarro world for those two. O hai Chelsea & Billy. That was exactly what I was thinking, Ashley. You could use John Abbott's wise counsel right now. Jack's too busy being at drunk Nikki's beck and call. Tucker and Audra are going to Paris. Interesting. Wait until Ashley finds out. Sigh, Nikki, you should've let Seth's call go to voicemail. His lack of sobriety is still a risk to your own. IMO Seth has been obsessed with Nikki even without Jordan's influence. Seems to me an AA sponsor shouldn't have their emotions caught up in the importance of who they're supposed to be helping. So was the liquid Abby poured for Diane, Kyle, and Jack a sparkling wine? It had a bubbly head. If so, all of them were holding their flutes wrong. One would hope at least Jack would know better. Wow, I loved Tessa's knit top, especially the color. Great advice Audra was giving Tucker regarding the Devon estrangement. But, why did I get the feeling there was an undermining angle to it? Kyle got home from Society where he had helped split a bottle of wine, and the first thing he did was pour himself another drink. WTAF? Ashley. Sitting in the dark waiting for Tucker (and Audra?) to return to his suite. Ehhh. Well, at least she wasn't naked. ๐ฑ