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The clothing that KC wears on the show isn't anything like the clothes that she posts on her blog though. Yeah, ultimately I don't really care what any of them wear or what color/style their hair is (although I'm glad SA has to keep his scruff). It's the writing that worries me most of the time.

Well, to be fair, Felicity doesn't exactly dress like your typical EA, either.

I see what you're saying @Morrigan2575, but I disagree. Oliver becoming a hero was a journey we spent all last season following. No, I won't be lost if the whole city sees him as a hero in 3x01, but considering I've been invested in the journey for two years now, I'd like to see how we got there. Same with Oliver and Felicity (provided that isn't a trick or misdirection). We don't need episodes devoted to it, but it should be shown. Last we saw, he was using her as bait to trick Slade. What changed for him in the time since? To me, the $1mm gift to Digg and Felicity is a throwaway detail. I could even consider Lance becoming Chief as throwaway (like Digg telling the Team that Lyla's pregnant). I don't REALLY need to see any of that. But character/story growth (which the hero business/date are) should be shown. Even if it's in a montage or something, I shouldn't have to pick up a tie-in to see it. I'll reserve final judgment until I see ep 1 (or at least read one of 2.5ms comics to see what kind of things are included). For now it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

And maybe, just maybe, a few V.C. Andrews fans.

Marc Guggenheim tweeted a picture of a concept meeting for 3x01 a few weeks ago, and the room was full of about 30 men and one, maybe two women. I hesitate to use the term 'wish fulfillment' with regards to the way Oliver's love life is handled on the show, but I think there's a bunch of stereotypical male ideas as far as conquests go, and what kind of behavior from a 'playboy' and 'desirable' man is acceptable/attractive. So, women fall all over pre-island Oliver, and he, in turn, mostly treats them like dirt, and we still have two of those women (maybe more, if the mother of his child comes back into the picture) who inexplicably want anything to do with him romantically in the present day. I can MAYBE understand Sara because of their shared experience on the island, but...eh, not really. Laurel, though...I don't understand. Yes, there is a certain appeal to taking some broken, pitiful excuse of a man and transforming him with your love or some other such nonsense, but he has shit on her repeatedly, and she's still coming back for more. At this point, she's not just a doormat, she's like...the doormat factory and warehouse all rolled into one. I don't want to frame this as a male vs. female viewpoint debate, because I know plenty of men who would find Oliver's behavior in the past (and some of the present) unacceptable. But in terms of writing where his love life is concerned, I think there's a 'hot guy gets his pick of women and look at what they're willing to go through to be with the illustrious Oliver Queen' kind of thing at play here. I think they give the actual terms and development of the relationship very little thought. I think it's more of a "Sisters? Yeah! Sisters!" kind of thing.

I know, I'm just throwing in my $.02. The wardrobe people/stylists seem to let her (and maybe others, I don't know) keep some of her personal style on the show, with her nails and all the rings she likes to wear. It's possible that she likes her hair like that, and they just don't care as long as it looks good on camera.

KC had been blonde (or at least had lighter hair) for YEARS - the brunette was something fairly recent. I think she looks better with darker hair, but maybe she's going light because she likes it/feels more comfortable that way? Not everything is nefarious.

Willa was tweeting that she has a few weeks to put on some muscle, so it's probably her. Her trainer seems to be in Vancouver, so that might be why she's there now.

I don't know, while I do think it was stupid to have her agree to return to the League, I think it fits in with the theme of the show/her character as far as sacrificing herself for others. Toward the end she was still willing to kill for the greater good, and I think, deep down, in order to rationalize keeping her family and loved ones safe, she could accept returning to the League as something she had to do. She started to believe in herself a bit at the end of the season, started thinking that maybe she wasn't so awful after all. So yeah, while going back to the League was stupid story-wise, having her return (if she ever even left) to Starling and start villaining it up, yeah. I think negates things.

That would completely negate her character growth at the end of last season, so yeah, they'd probably do it.

Well, it depends on her interpretation of "join." Maybe she meant she joins them as in she is in on Oliver's secret and now has dealings with the team in her capacity as (I'm assuming) DA or some other kind of law enforcement? They could be working together to solve crime in Starling and she could be a member of the team without suiting up or being in the Arrow cave all the time. Her betting that she becomes BC doesn't really mean anything. I mean, she can't say yes for obvious reasons, and she wouldn't say no if she knew. She wants it, that much is obvious. I don't blame her, that was the role she was promised. It's not really working out so far, but I don't blame her for wanting to hang onto it. Who knows, she might very well become BC. I mean, I don't want it, but TPTB are still hanging onto it, so might as well accept it. It would be patently ridiculous (even on this show) if she was already in costume in the first ep of the season though, so if I had to bet, I'd say that was Sara.

This is the worst. If I want to read the comics, I'll read the damn comics. Don't try to drag me into it by giving me the info I watch your show to, you know, find out, by making me pay for a comic so I can see what happens to the characters I'm invested in. I mean, we've got Lance becoming Captain, we've got (if the synopsis is to be believed at all) Oliver to the point where he's ready to ask Felicity out, and the city LOVES Arrow now? This is important character/story development, and room should be made for it in the actual show. There's a good way to tie the show and comics together, and stunts like this aren't it. How much are these issues going to be? If they were free, maybe I'd feel a *little* differently, but I'm guessing they're not. (I'll buy them though, because I care and I want to know and I hate myself for that, ahhhhh)

Caity posted an instagram of herself watching the sunrise right around the time SA tweeted about drinking a beer after an overnight shoot, so maybe it was her (or was the stunt double as Sara).

Emily might have cut her hair a bit, but it's still long. Mine goes down a little past my shoulders, and my ponytail isn't as long as hers. She's got layers and she's probably turning her head in that photo, that might be why it looks a little different. As for KC, IDK why she's blonde, but I wish she'd fully commit. I hate that ombre darker roots/light ends business.

Nice of Oliver to wear his GOOD flannel!

He's being angsty, thinking about Slade and how there's no one around to feed him.

Sara has fishnets-they're on the outside of her pants for whatever reason. But yeah, it probably doesn't mean anything.

Probably doesn't mean much, but I think it's interesting that DC is releasing Sara's Canary as a collectible at Comic-Con: https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/487638484773920768/photo/1 (putting this here because I figure it goes along with speculation about Sara vs. Laurel for BC next season?)

I think when you write it's kind of easy to plagiarize yourself from time to time. They do repeat lines like, "You wouldn't be you if you didn't," and "We wouldn't be us if we didn't," things like that. So, repeating some wording is easy and probably inevitable. I think some of these parallels might have been accidental, but most of them have got to be on purpose. Plus, would they let a director have creative control to the point where they'd allow him to insert parallels that weren't written in?

I saw a pic on twitter or maybe instagram, I can't remember. I'll see if I can find it.

He's a CIA agent in the comics (according to the Green Arrow wiki). Yeah, looks like it. They were also filming at a racetrack (unless this boxing ring is set up at the race track, IDK), so the gambling ring theory might just be correct.

If this happens, I'm going to have to stop watching this show. And I don't just mean him getting back together with Laurel, I mean him filling the mainpainy headspace where his brain should be with the notion that he can't have a relationship (especially this time when it directly involves having a relationship with Felicity, if the synopsis is to be believed), and then going and having a relationship with anyone. I'm going to get all Dr. Phil here and say that Oliver? He needs to get into a nice, long relationship with himself and fix that mess. I'm dying for some personal, non-Arrow-related growth for him, and I really want it to start here. Please, showrunners, suppress your urges and let this man be alone for a while. I'm convinced that the Sara relationship was due to poor planning for the most part, and that when Oliver said that infamous line in 2x06, the writers intended for him to mean it. Then they needed to slow down the Olicity train, add a few easily traversed hills to Laurel's ridiculous joke of an 'island' and basically have some drama-inducing filler for a bit to set up for the last few eps of the season. I like Sara and honestly wouldn't have minded a more developed relationship between her and Oliver (I'm one of those who didn't think the hookup came out of left field, he obviously cared for her, I just wish their hookup had just been a hookup), but it turned everyone into such an idiot. If there is another "because of the life I lead" moment, it better be a silent one. Oliver needs to keep that (repeat) realization to himself, because voicing something like that and then doing the opposite (again) brings him down a few notches on his already low likability scale, IMO. ETA: I will be especially pissed if he pulls some nonsense about not wanting to get involved with Felicity because he's worried she'll get hurt when HE SENT HER DIRECTLY TO SLADE with nothing more than a syringe full of a cure and some vague hope that she could maybe stab him in one of his meaty appendages with it. No, show. You can't do that.

So I guess we should expect this "date" to be a casual invite to Big Belly Burger, and Oliver will scrounge up enough cash from between the cushions of his couch to be able to pay Felicity's way?

They're already shooting at QC, and EBR was wearing her "Felicity" clothes. I'm thinking she might already know Ray by way of ::takes deep breath, holds down vomit:: working as his assistant (or well-dressed VP of something really cool, come on show, come on).

Why would they try to keep it a secret though? There was a flat-out passing of the torch in the finale. Everyone assumes that's what's going to happen, even if there are a lot of people (like me, idiot that I am) who still hopes they're faking us out for Manhunter or, better yet, nothing.