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Sorry, I wasn't clear (and I haven't figured out how to quote people yet), I know Jill was pregnant for Joy's wedding, but I thought she'd had the baby by the time Joe & Kendra got hitched. The chronology, as far as I remember it, was Joy's wedding, Jill's probably difficult birth, Joy's pregnancy announcement, Joe & Kendra's wedding. If stuff is actually happening, why not show it in order? Why go straight from wedding to wedding? Or is the season finale/final episode before a mid-season break/whatever they call it going to be a Very Special Episode where we finally find out about Sammy's birth and what the heck actually happened?

At the end of the episode, when they were talking about next week, weren't they talking about showing Joseph and Kendra's wedding? Aren't we way off track now? I'm pretty sure Jill had Sam before the wedding, and Joy and Austin announced her pregnancy before the wedding. I know Joseph proposed at Joy's wedding, so there's a natural tie-in to this episode, but for once stuff actually happened in this family between two events, so why can't they show them in order?

So many thoughts. I didn't realize how much I disliked BMJason until SBJason returned. It's sounds weird, but BMJason is too...enthusiastic about his dislike of Franco and his feelings for Jake and whatever else he rambles on about. SBJason may have been emotionless, but I accepted the lack of emotion. Wtf is up with Betsy assuming Franco pushed Drew down the stairs simply because she saw him standing at the top of the stairs? Because that was it, right? Drew was at the bottom, Franco was at the top looking at him. So that automatically means he shoved him down the stairs? Because Franco hasn't had enough to get all emotional and self-absorbed with? The show has managed to "redo" Nina, why can't they "redo" Franco? He is quite possibly the most self-absorbed character on the show, and as Sonny is on the show that's saying something. I am so over the whole "is Nelle evil or not" storyline. Michael gets suspicious and then forgives/ignores everything. She can turn out to be evil, and I'll be happy. She can kill him, and I'll be happy. She bugs. (Also - when the necklace got lost in Morocco or wherever it was, and Valentin found it in a pawn shop so as to "save" Nina, how did he never think to find out where the pawn shop got the necklace? Wouldn't that have been a simple conversation, particularly for someone who is as evil and dangerous and jewel-thief-y as Valentin apparently is? "Hey, where'd you get this?" Even I can do that, and I'm not particularly evil or dangerous.) And finally, I really hope Oscar ends up being a Quartermain. We need more of them. We have Monica, who married in to the family, Ned, who has changed his name, and Jason/Drew. What's the point of having a wealthy dynastic family if it has no members? We don't need any more Corinthoses.

So, the gifts that were old, new and "borrowed" were things everyone already had...but Jinger and Jeremy had to go out and actually spend money to buy blue stuff for Joy and Austin? I think my impression of Jinger and Jeremy just went up a teeny tiny bit.

I was never a fan of Nicholas, but omg I really, really, really want Nicholas to show up alive so that people can stop yelling "you killed my son/brother!" at Valentin. I'm so over it.

I think Joy would have benefited by having fewer family members around to give her advice. She had her grandmother, mother, Jana, Jessa, Jinger, Johanna, Jennifer, Jordyn and Josie. That's 9 people - plus "Miss Renee" - providing a commentary and giving suggestions. I know that when I'm indecisive about something, the fewer people advising me the better. All the voices get into your head and you can't hear yourself think, much less figure out what exactly you want. She'd have been better off with maybe two sisters, and that's it. The poor girl looked close to tears several times. Jinger seems to have grown beyond her family. Just the way she was sitting, her body language, her style. She obviously misses her sisters, but is clearly happy where she is and with the life she now has. Good for her!

Did someone actually say that Jinger's bridesmaids' dresses were custom made, or did I make that up? Because where I live, that would have been a darn sight more expensive than buying dresses online.

I really have to cut Joy some slack. She was never a girly girl, and I can understand why the idea of choosing dresses and tasting cakes is so difficult for her - because she just doesn't care. But because it has been drilled into her that her entire purpose in life is to marry and have kids is the be-all and end-all of her existence, she has to pretend to care. I think she'd be just as happy to wear something off the rack, have one attendant, and get married in city hall. But unfortunately, she's not allowed to do that. To a large extent, I think she has the right attitude. It shouldn't have to be about all the details. It's about the ceremony between the bride and groom, and then the marriage itself. Also, I think the expression on Austin's face when she pointed out they had 2.5 to 3 weeks to spend on the house was an "oh s@#$!" expression, and not a "don't correct me" expression.

How is it that t-shirt size warrants the first page of that application, after name and address and before information about education, current church and all the other stuff?

Didn't Joy say during the Q&A with Daphne Oz that she wanted to have her kids in a hospital rather than at home? When they showed Henry's birth, she didn't seem to be all gaga about home births. But maybe I'm thinking of Jinger.

Serves him right. I hope his wife and kids have a chance to heal and move forward from this.

I'm wondering where they're going to live. Does Jessa get to move up into a bigger house now, so that Joseph and Kendra can have the small house? Or will they be getting a house we haven't even seen yet?