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Most likely Arie’s not planning a trip to Minnesota (nor are many other people—omg it’s COLD there ?) but sure, much younger “friend” of Becca who happens to be in the state legislature, spend your state’s taxpayers’ money on a publicity stunt and watch Becca and her family show up for the nonevent so People magazine will cover them. Next, sponsor a bill to what, keep wild tropical birds from nesting there? Cause that’s probably not going to happen either.

The MML household is thinking about banning Becca ?! I hope she finds happiness as much as I would anyone who thinks she’ll find it on this franchise, and Arie certainly got the maroon edit, but I told Mr MML I just don’t care about her and don’t think her season will be entertaining, and he agrees that we’ll most likely be a Bachelorette-free zone next season and perhaps forever.

Totally agree. Lauren is conventionally pretty imo but wouldn’t stand out in a crowd, and (yes, I’m going straight to hell) Becca’s face is proportionately odd imo and she has a clompy walk. She could be Gal Gadot’s sister. I’m real curious about how she’ll do as the B’ette—she seems like she’ll be an Ashley, where she worries no one really likes her and picks a JP right away. She looked great on ATFR, though. Baby Bekah can go as a girl Beaver Cleaver for Halloween forever.

Totally a marketing move by the Show or the local ABC affiliate or someone else making money off it. Good one too, deflecting the hatred from the real villain (the show) to a dumb puppet on it. No one seriously believes Arie lined up the film people and producers and put this on the air himself, I hope. ETA: Yep. Minnesota’s MyTalk 107’s owner also owns the local ABC affiliate: “Hubbard Broadcasting is a leading television station operator with about 10 stations in Minnesota, New York, and New Mexico. Its portfolio includes ABC affiliate KSTP (Minneapolis/St. Paul) and NBC affiliate WHEC (Rochester, New York). The company also has three radio stations in the Twin Cities market; including myTalk 107.1, ESPN 1500 and KS95.” Well played.

“And now that I dragged Becca to the gates of hell and back by orchestrating the worst breakup ever by pulling the strings of the Arie puppet and make sure everyone blames HIM.... tune in next season to watch me become her best friend as I ‘help’ Becca try to find true love—or will I?!” Evil leer.

If we are mad at Arie, we should be equally or more angry with the franchise and stop watching it. And one could say the people who keep nursing at the Bachelor teat are complicit too in enjoying considerable compensation from up on their high horses (cough Sean Lowe etc. cough)

From a People article about Becca, who speaks fluent Bachelor: But more seriously, I don’t think she was completely blindsided: Just very curious imo her comment about “once the going started to get tough” and “I didn’t think we were at that point”—wonder if life together after the final rose wasn’t the bed of roses (hah) it should have been so early in the relationship or if the bloom was already off the rose (double hah). She’ll be just fine. (note I had put this in the Spoiler thread but it has no spoilers, so moved here as it relates to this episode)

From a People article about Becca, who speaks fluent Bachelor: But more seriously: Just very curious imo her comment about “once the going started to get tough”—wonder if life together after the final rose wasn’t the bed of roses (hah) it should have been so early in the relationship or if the bloom was already off the rose (double hah). She’ll be just fine.

Becca to me always seemed to be playing the part of the perfect F1 candidate—I never felt chemistry between Arie and her and perhaps thst’s why she seemed so dull. So it may not be too hard for her to move on, plus she comes out of this breakup smelling like a rose (hah, get it?). If she is the B’ette, I hope she finds someone to bring out her sparkle!

I wonder if Show pressured Arie for a proposal. (I’m know I’m going straight to hell but I loved every awkward moment of the breakup.)

Yes to all of this. Not to mention they all signed contracts and know exactly how this show work. Arie didn’t leave right away because he had to wait for the producers to tell him to leave. Becca had to cry (she didn’t do a very good job of wailing off camera). Nobody died, no permanent damage. And when Becca is Bachelorette we’ll get to listen to her boohooing how hard it is to be on the other side of the rose table as she breaks hearts every week, unless she picks someone the first night and is allowed to ignore everyone else.

Show does so much recapping that I bet the second night would include the previous night's highlights, so that's what I'd watch with a group.

Drybj is the right hand moved one key to the left. It might be a typo BUT I’m going to start using it, I think. ?

Lauren did mention earlier that her parents’ bad relationship affected her—perhaps the quiet awkwardness during the hometown date was because the people who were there all hate each other. Maybe her parents aren’t even together.

Also, Lauren could be gorgeous off camera—she might not have a photogenic face (but I do think she’s as pretty as anyone else this season). She and Kendall have been more “hard to get” with Arie than Becca, which appeals to some people.

I'm going to bet telling each of the F3s "I love you" is producer driven now, like picking up the rose on a one-on-one date even if the date is going to be sent home. None of the F3 seemed particularly giddy at Arie's profession of love. "I love you" here is as meaningless as a square of toilet paper (unless you're Becca stuck in a tent in the sand, in which case that square might be mighty nice to have).

Bekah curated (as she defines curated) her shtick to come across as the youngest woman. She was much like Ashley I, who cornered herself into the virgin shtick with whoever the Bachelor was that season. Our takeaway re Bekah is simply that she is way too young for Arie. Not a slam, it was the role she brought to the table and seemed to enjoy playing, for instance by pointing out herself that she is the youngest by mentioning when she was born (no one asked her to volunteer that). We didn't see age defensiveness or even a mention about their ages from the young women who are only a few months older than Bekah (much like the Becca on Ashley's season who also happened to be a virgin didn't feel the need to play it up). I agree it was ridiculous, and hope Show is done with it.

Show was really pushing both Tia and Seinne in TWTA, filmed after the Becca breakup went down. I will be very very surprised if Becca is the next Bachelorette—perhaps the one after that. I could definitely see Tia being cast only because she is so different from Rachel, the last B’ette, and I don’t think most people think Tia is a bad person or harmed Baby Bekah in any way. Personally I would enjoy Kendall—she’s a possibility too—but I’d bet on Tia.

Bekah is the most immature 22 year old who’s ever been on my screen. She seemed more like a precocious 15. “I’m sorry I was born in 1995.” Give me a fucking break.

I think Show just totally downplayed Becca—she was F1 when filming ended and they wanted to keep her appeal under wraps so viewers wouldn’t guess early in that she “won.” We have no idea what she is really like, but she wouldn’t have been cast if she were as dull as Show has edited her. F8 through F3 or so usually get treated well imo to make us surprised when they get sent home. If Becca is a serious candidate for Bachelorette, we should see some mighty sympathetic treatment in ATFR and a little spunk and I hope humor from her.

If my kid went on TB he probably wouldn't even tell me about it :) Not to mention these people are not virginal teenagers (yeah, an oxymoron these days, but I digress). They are all out on their own (okay, except maybe Baby Bekah whose mommy put out an APB on her) and supporting themselves. Who cares what the parents and siblings think? Do they seriously bring dates home to meet their family? I'd rather see them where they actually live, doing what they actually would do with their friends. Lauren for example lives in Dallas--let's see what she'd do with Arie for fun there and what her friends think of him.

She wouldn’t even have to be bitchy—she could just have buyers remorse after being caught up in the competitiveness and realized she didn’t love him. Plus her fiance showing up the day of the final rose ceremony trying to get her back may have had a delayed reaction for Arie, if he later felt Becca’s and his hearts belonged elsewhere.

Oh, based on spoilers, you might want to watch them—it sounds like this might really truly be the most dramatic final rose and after the final rose ever!

No need to—I think they have so much unaired footage from every episode that they could easily reedit the scenes with Lauren and her family (or any of the other b’ettes, too) to make it appear she is or isn’t Arie’s true love.

There was Luke Pell, who was supposed to be a lead, who actually served in Afghanistan, but Arie (I like Arie) probably is the only lead to tour in a war zone. (Jubilee and Alex, I think his name was, and Chad were also veterans of course but never in the running for the lead.)