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Oh the screaming and the anger...those poor babies running around in that dirty hotel room in their diapers.

I think this is absolutely right. Hannah and Adam both straight up lied to her last season after she gave them both the benefit of the doubt and I think she's still salty. I can't say as I blame her. I am pretty sure she stated something of that nature on the first episode. I think when she sees Hannah again being unprofessional and sloppily engaging with Conrad after what happened last season with the charter guest, it just infuriates the Captain and she may (or may not) over react.

Joao is a scary guy and his reactions don't really seem to sync with what I would think would be appropriate. I agree with whoever upthread said he was a future wife-beater....it wouldn't surprise me in the least and the way he goes from 0-60 with his anger is concerning. I will say that I think he was absolutely right to intervene with Hannah taking a picture of a passed out Brooke. Hannah is so unprofessional and is a terrible manager and I don't blame Capt Sandy for being annoyed at her immature behavior. Her sloppy relationship with Conrad (seriously poor Brooke having to listen to that all night), badmouthing Kasey to anyone who was standing still, stomping off from the tip meeting to pout and smoke smoke smoke and I will even add telling everyone that Joao is psycho (even tho she may not be wrong). Maybe she is just over her job and if that's the case, she should move on. I have never found her to be a great first stew every since she introduced the main salon as the saLOOOON. Ugh. Her behavior last season was unprofessional as well and since she's calling out "liars" maybe she should look at herself...I think that's the reason Captain Sandy is over her as well. I'm sure she's probably a lovely person outside of work (well, actually pretty sure she's not but I'll give her the benefit of the doubt)..but she's wearing pretty thin to me in this capacity. Lots of people are just not cut out to manage others, it's not as easy as you think!

Wow, I just think Siggy and Dolores are the most vile, deluded, mean-spirited women. For me, the winners this season are Melissa and Margaret! Gotta say that when the season started I never thought I'd be rooting for pigtails, but she seems quite reasonable and composed compared to these two lunatics. Even Theresa seems pretty likable compared to these two idiots. Dolores really needs to rethink her wardrobe as well, she looks like an overstuffed sausage. Sorry, not sorry.

I don't normally watch this show but one thing that really struck me was how much she enjoys having people see her with her clothes off and how much that reminded me of Steven Assanti on My 600 Pound Life. I remember Dr. Now telling Assanti to put something on when he stood up to get weighed in the hospital and how he seemingly took pleasure in having the hospital staff having to wash down his mounds and mounds of naked flesh. I see the exact same thing in Whitney. That is not simply being proud of who you are at any weight and promoting body acceptance. Who (at any weight) plops down in the middle of a bridal store in their underwear? Who parades through an urgent care in their sports bra? They are both extreme narcissists who take pleasure in the fact that they get away with whatever they want. Would you or I be able to plop down in a store in our underwear without being removed or arrested? Would you or I stand up starkers to be weighed with a bunch of hospital staff around? No, because most people conform to basic standards of society which allow us to go about our lives in a comfortable way. These narcissists take pleasure in not conforming to normal standards of behavior and "shocking" people. Maybe it's a way to feel some power because they have lost control over their own body? I have no idea but it's interesting to me to note the similarities between the two.

I am also adopted and I 100% agree with you. I have no interest in finding or meeting my birth parents and never have. However, when my state (Illinois) opened up previously closed adoption records several years ago, I requested a copy of my original birth certificate, just to confirm that what my parents told me was accurate (it was). Eight months later I got a letter in the mail from the department of health informing me that another adopted child with my same birth parents also requested her original birth certificate and if I wanted her info, I could have it, if she also agreed. She did, and so did I. It turned out that she lived THREE BLOCKS away from me! We agreed to meet and five years later, I have a new best friend who is also my biological sister a year and a half younger than me, and whom I talk to every day. This experience has been the best thing that’s ever happened to me, other than being adopted by my parents in the first place. :) But, neither of us have any interest in meeting our birth parents. I felt differently about meeting her, I guess mostly because I had always wanted a sibling (I am an only child), and we were both in the exact same situation. As an adoptee who also adopted a child, I 100% agree with these posts. I think the experience is very different for each individual situation. I was sort of curious and reunited with my biological mother when I was in my 30's. I didn't seek out "my real family" or feel an emptiness at all. I was curious and I also felt that if my biological mother could know that I had grown up loved and in a wonderful family that it would help her also come to terms with her very brave decision. While I am grateful and have much respect for her, in no way did I ever feel that I was missing a mother or father. My adoptive family (and adopted sister) are/were/will always be my family. My sister has no curiosity about her bio family and that's fine. I have been open with my son who is adopted about all the information I have and he has received that information well and hasn't expressed a need or desire to meet his biological family although I've always told him I would help him if he wanted to do that. Should he decide to do so in the future I will assist him in any way I can. I can also tell you that I would never feel that our relationship was threatened in any way or that somehow he was looking for a different or "real" mother. Again, I know of people who feel differently and it is an intensely unique situation for each person, however I will say that I do know many, many adoptees and none of them feel like they are missing their "real" family. I think they all feel like the shared experiences and love of growing up together and being raised by loving people define a family more than biology. Again YMMV.

There is some serious pathology going on here with this family. People do not become this dysfunctional in a vacuum and I can't even begin to imagine what dynamic created these men. I think Steven is one of the scariest people I have ever observed and I am not talking about his body. His mannerisms, manipulations, threats and reactions to situations are terrifying. It seems very calculated to me. It's like he is trying to feign actual emotions (except for his anger) in order to get his way. His odd almost coquettish reactions at times (like when his brother showed up) or when someone is wiping his ass or tending to him in some way seem extremely disturbing. I agree with whatever poster(s) said that if he was in a typically sized body with no mobility issues, he'd be a very dangerous individual. His brother has clearly experienced some type of deep, deep trauma that has kept him from developing emotionally and based on his hatred and fear of his brother, I can not begin to imagine what has happened here. This entire family is the stuff of nightmares and a gastric sleeve ain't gonna cure a thing.

I agree. I wasn't a huge fan before but it was really very sweet. She also was totally rocking my 1970's prom dress.

Ha. Great minds! It bothered me at the time and bothered me last night (much like the twins in general)

When they recapped the “design-off” between the twins and Shawn having her breakdown I remember thinking at the time how Shawn couched it as “letting” Clair win instead of letting the judges send her home when she was unable to complete a design on her own. During the reunion she doubled down by saying she would always fall on her sword for Clair. In both instances I thought I caught a glimpse of something cross Clair’s face. Why is Shawn unable to say that fair and square her sister would have beat her instead of acting like she gave up the win to save her sister. Fall on her sword my ass. Everyone including Clair knows she would have lost and by playing the martyed sister she tries to take that away from Clair. If they are sooooo close why couldn’t she just say my sister won. Odd dynamic.

My god Azan has the patience of a saint. If that cow kept coming at me and telling me I was making her do that and grabbing me and demanding that I look at her I would have lost my damn mind. She is abusive and I wonder if she treats her little girl the same way. Toddlers can be just as frustrating as 90 day fiancés and I shudder to think what happens behind closed doors because she does not have the ability to control herself when she’s not getting what she wants.

Courtney, go home. It was very clear to me that Antonio was hoping that if he left for a day, she would be gone when he returned. When she was still there he was irritated as hell and it showed all over his face. Honey, Courtney....just stop embarrassing yourself and get yourself a great hotel to enjoy the rest of your vacation or cut your losses and leave. This is just painful. What Jesse did to Darcy was some next level passive aggressive bullshit. There is a big difference between giving someone an "appreciation gift" and getting down on your knee during a "special day" when you know that person is hoping for an engagement, pulling out a ring and then NOPE, this is NOT an engagement ring, but I appreciate you. Seriously I am beginning to think that Jesse must actually hate Darcy to do something that cruel.

Wow what a mess. The countess’ words keep going through my mind “money can’t buy you class”. Truer words were never spoken.

I'm definitely in your tiny camp. I've said before that of all the 90 dayers he seemed the most well adjusted. I think he is attractive with a good personality and he's nice to his mom. I like him alot and he is the only one who I don't see as delusional in thinking that his on-line connection would be a real person and a good match. I think they are very evenly matched and I also hope Patrick finds someone perfect for him!

I actually think if Darcey is acting, she's very good at it. I see real hurt on her face and I get the sense that she is truly emotionally invested. I think a hurt 42 year old woman is definitely capable of telling her very controlling crush "you're not my boss", especially after some wine and spending the day thinking about the convo with his mom.

I can't help but root for Patrick...I think he's a a good person and I also think he's very attractive. He's the only one of these 90 dayers that I have some sympathy for. I think Myriam is pretty but not out of his league and I don't think he was delusional in coming to Paris to meet someone who claimed they cared about him. There were moments last night when I thought (for the first time) that she actually looked quite lovely. She really is gilding the lily and maybe she'll figure that out. 42 is hardly old and dressing appropriately for her age would (imho) make her look decades younger and fresher than trying to look like she's still 20. She needs a week with Stacy and Clinton....

OMG YES...Jesse "doesn't mind" if she has a SMALL GLASS OF WINE???? Oh I laughed so hard at that.....Darcey...go...home, get a good hair cut and don't ever let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. yes love..............no love..................yes love.................yes love. Could Jenny's affect be any flatter, I mean it's sort of clear to me that she is repulsed by Larry. Does Larry not get that sense?

Not clear that she acknowledged her actions. She clearly lied to the captain about the situation with Jason and doubled down on that lie on the reunion. I am surely biased because there is something about her that grates on me. It may originate with her pronunciation of "saloooooon" in her first season. Not sure I was able to get over that!! I also dislike her overuse of "honey", particularly with her subordinates...it is irritating as hell and if my boss continually referred to me as "honey" I would have to tell him or her to take several seats. I ain't your honey, honey.

Wow, I can not stand Hannah or Adam. I think she is really not attractive and looks ridiculous tonight. At least Adam is willing to own his mistakes but not Hannah. Something about her really bugs

I definitely took it exactly like you did..."she did her best"...I did a rewind to make sure I heard it correctly. Yikes! Hardly a ringing endorsement!!