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She may be mean but Jack is cruel and sadistic. Also the racist and the bully. I mean Storm Trooper Jack is so bad I hereby declare him worse than Paul. So I'd rather keep a typical run of the mill BB villain (Bella) over Jack 100%. With Bella leaving the Six Shooters have the numbers and are assured to run the game until the very end.

Yes he is. The announcer called the Gra8ful Eight the Hateul Eight instead in one episode re-cap and followed up the next episode. In that one where they formed the Und9able Nine he says something roughly like the Mob of Nine put down their pitchforks long enough to choose a new name. Productions hates these jerks as much as we do.

I agree totally. Bella is just another typical lying, backstabbing BB villain. Jack is an out and out for real racist. And a real bully besides.

Cliff should have put up Christie to break this power group up or at least have flushed out Christie's VERY powerful power which she now gets to keep. But yeah it is win/win for the SixShooters for sure as Cliff got played and made the latest outlier to this group as in he will be out the door sooner than later now without having accomplished anything on the show and in the process losing any chance of winning the 25K prize for being America's Favorite. Bella was his and all the outliers meat shield protection short term too. Let Bella and the SickSixShooters battle it out next week. But he crumbled because Christie waved her magic mesmerizing wand in his face though they should have had the numbers to get Jack out this week. Also in the end he couldn't herd cats in the end as in Kat. Anyway now Cliff has no way to win anymore than if he had made the big move and will now lose America's Favorite prize as well. It was lose/lose for him and everyone not in the SickSix.

I can't stand either but I'll take anyone over the real life -- as in he isn't faking these qualities on the show -- overt racist, bullying, bigoted asshole that is Jack any day. Well the infamous quote by Goebbels, Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, agrees and Steve Bannon said in interviews he used this as his cornerstone strategy for a certain campaign he ran in part briefly: In our case the State is the SixShooters and their secret powers/numbers/bullying abilities. We are just seeing a reality show version of what happens in real life history, alas, as this works at all levels. Even trashy reality shows are not immune to it. Source quote was taken from: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-on-the-quot-big-lie-quot Now we return from the serious to to the frivolous again but I just had to get that in at least once.

Of course Tommy does. "You just wait and see. We're getting the band back together again. H8ful Eight forvahs! Rah! Rah!" (Leg kick optional). He is not just annoying but a total idiot as well.

No no no. Grodner WANTS Jack out. She doesn't care who he is up against. She just wants Jack out. Period. But the editors aren't. The last two episodes what were the main storylines? Did they involve Jack and Ovi in the pantry or Jack and Kemi at the fridge? No, they did not. Those two clips were OFF the main storyline and thrown in to showcase how horrible Jack is to the casual viewers. Grodner knows to save the season and her ratings she has to get rid of this vile creature called Jack and has absolutely, definitely and very obviously thrown him under the bus. Nothing can be clearer from the last two episodes than that as well as Julie's attempted interview that failed. Grodner realizes now that this is a half dozen years along and the country won't accept another BB15 nor can she hide something like that the way social media has exploded over this last half decade. So Jack must go to save her hide and her show as she is shown to be the anti-racist who is shocked (shocked I tell you) that Jack is this vile. Because without Jack the rest of the Six she knows she can edit around as just typical BB villains and blame Jack for the racism and bullying since he has been the leader of the pack and has set the tone for them and is very obviously the worst of the lot. In fact I'm sure the DR people were encouraged to "encourage" Cliff's thought about putting Jack up. And I'm sure they would just LOVE to print up little leaflets to pass out to the other houseguests that read. "On eviction night vote out Jack for a better America" because these HGs can screw up anything if not properly herded in the right direction. Now she can't control Christie using her power but she can have the DR people "hint" about thinking twice about using it on Jack. Yeah she cannot 100% guarantee Jack is evicted but she can try to slant things as much as possible and hinting as much as she can in the DR to the others that do you really want to sit next to Jack at the end etc etc. And yeah she can't control the veto competition to prevent Jack from winning it. Well unless the veto competition is writing down the greatest number of positive things about Kemi in 60 seconds say. 😎 But the bottom line is Grodner wants Jack out as much as we do at this point. Not because Grodner is noble. But because this is effecting Grodner's bottom line and her cash milk cow called Big Brother.

Or another option. You could just go to the "BB in the Media: Outside the Fishbowl" thread right here if you don't want to be spoiled directly about in game stuff. A discreet by telling tweet from Julie Chen herself was just re-posted there by Wandering Snark. (Thanks, Mr Snark). But again if you don't want to be spoiled period be careful what you read in that thread.

Yeah does anyone know? Anyone at Jokers even?

You know that BB has tons of "Jackson: Conqueror of Foods" video stored as a filler montage for some show. And given what I read here they could make a whole entire show out of those clips alone. I hope Cliff goes after Christie's crowd full bore forcing her to use the veto or make people in her alliance mad if she doesn't. Worst case you get Nick or Bella out which is fine by me. But playing it safe without shaking up the larger side is not getting you anywhere. And anything can happen over the course of a couple of days and the SickoShooters might end up feeling losing Anal Lice is better than losing the veto power too soon say. Or someone like Nick or Sam wins the veto and there definitely will be only a FiveHive left. You got to risk to receive and be bold. And if he doesn't try to do anything large he loses anyway with nothing accomplished and also loses his chance to become AFP in the process. I personally want Jack out first. He is an angry, entitled, bullying bigot. I think the whole season's mood could change if he left. And he needs to go pre-jury so he doesn't poison and bully and bend it to his will as well. I want Bella gone too but she is more a classic, back-stabbing BB villain and isn't the racist or at least not as much of a racist as Jack. Also I want Tommy out but I'm afraid they never will get around to ferreting out that fake, annoying, over-the-top, pom-pom waving rat because of frying the bigger fish. At this point I agree with others he has the best chance to win ... sigh. As for Christie? I want her to stay a little bit longer to see her twist in the wind because a paranoid Christie is an extremely entertaining Christie. Release the kraken, err, Brussels sprouts!

Actually it was the Hat8ful Eight that did that.

Yep. First the blindside was fun. Especially Kat telling us all she knows what was going on. But then the episode went to hell as the one person who won't do anything but what the Jacks tell him to do comes back. And who doesn't think that Cliff the Clueless will now continue with his daily "Cliff Notes" out LOUD on what is going on in the house because yes he is that dumb. Meanwhile the three people of color don't "get" that Julie is telling them it is okay to talk about the rampant racism. Instead they all seem to think they are suppose to keep quiet about it or CBS will get mad at them or something. Sigh.

Except you just know CBS will cover-up and just do something like send backstage employees out to be the audience with instructions to cheer loudly. Same with looking forward to seeing these bullies and racists implode and turn on each other. Sure they have to but by then they will be the only ones left at the rate it is going so one of them will walk away with half a mil before taxes. Best thing to do to get revenge for this horror is send letters -- printed ones on actual paper grab far more attention -- to the sponsors demanding this show stop casting bigots and bullies or you are going to stop buying their products. Bottom line is the only thing Grodner and CBS cares about. Lose sponsors and you lose money.

And you just described last season perfectly. The contrast between last season and this one is 180 degrees. And speaking of which the only positive to come out of this episode was Kaitlyn.

BB19 was horrible because of Paul. But this season has gotten to the point where it is like having nine Pauls in the house all at once.

Here is a typical response of tonight's TV show from a casual viewer on the episode thread: And this: Yep, even this watered down, edited TV version was still such a huge contrast to what had been shown up until this point that people are going ballistic in that thread.

Oh the people posting in the episode thread that don't read these feeds "get it" for sure. I never read the words "scum" and "hate" used in any thread outside of this one so much. They hated not only Bella but also the Hat8ful 8+1 as well. That screaming HOH meeting with the edit of all the outsiders one after another being refused entry spoke to everyone on that thread. And Jack in the Pantry clip got everyone hating him full on second only to Bella. You don't have to show everything you guys saw here when BB has sugar coated their TV episodes up until now. The contrast was like an atom bomb going off with casual viewers. The storyline on the TV version is Bella as The Big Bad and Nicole is the overwhelmed but "plucky" heroine. They do that because as of the airing tonight (Wednesday) the 6-Shooters still plan to keep Nicole so it makes for a great live episode tomorrow as people watch the brave heroine survive as Bella's head explodes on live TV. Also Bella and Nick numbers-wise have less a chance to survive than the Sicko6 so you get a TV villain about to get her comeuppance. And you still set Jack up (pantry clip) to be the next Big Bad once she is gone. I hate to admit it but BB tonight partly managed to make some lemonade out of these hamster lemons. BUT there is still plenty of time for the Sicko6 to ruin their own plans ... and BB's ... and our enjoyment ... by tomorrow night.

Of course they were. They ran away and were trying their very best to hide from her. I hate to agree with Jackson about anything but he is right. As the WWII slogan goes: "Loose lips sink ships." Not that any of these ignorant idiots ever heard of WWII let alone know Sweden was a neutral during it. (Sweden. Still the most interesting discussion we have had in this thread this season). But really there is zero reasons to tell Kat. They can spin it to a positive after the fact. And where can she go afterwards anyway. But tell her now and she will tell Jessica who will run around telling everyone and ruin the blindside we want to see. Then that might even cause 6 Shoot-them-all alliance to abort the plan because ...reasons.

Ding, ding. And we have a winner! Whether you are black or white, right wing or left wing, religious or atheist, old or young, communist or capitalist; everyone can agree on one point. You have to be both a screaming exhibitionist and totally morally bankrupt to go on live TV and fornicate in front of thousands live and edited TV version in front of millions. Hispanics or Latinos are a culture that has it's roots in language. That language gives rise to everything else like literature and films/TV and music and even shared religion and values etc thus forming a culture. It is not a race. Among Hispanics there are porcelain white skins to ebony black skins and everything in between so how can it be a race which is defined by skin color? According to the US government: Sorry but it is just something that bugs the hell out of me when "Hispanic" constantly is referred to as a race in America.

If it was then DJ can be allowed to race with Mama Paulo, Queen of Lasagna, after all. I can't bear to go back and watch to see if it was DJ or Brian. But anyone in the Paulo family would have recognized Kevin & Drew. It was the Paulo's favorite show from the first season, first episode. I'm so glad the people on Sucks made tons of iconic Mama Paulo posters Brian downloaded and printed for her. She was photo shopped into every Race. She even hung out with Woman Shopping in Empty Field in Iceland from TAR4 even so that poor woman would have some company. Mama Paulo: Our Lady of the TARs. So damn it, TAR. Send Mama to NZ!

Who knew that of all the TAR mactor wannabes only a TAR7 Racer succeeded in real Hollywood. Props to Brian from the brothers who flipped their vehicle in Africa team for making it as a real jobbing actor and not a "reality thing hanger-on" Rachel type of person. I just saw him in a new commercial this week so he is still making endless commercials like in the past now that The Big Bang Theory is finished along with his recurring role as Penny's dumb but lovable former boyfriend on it.

I don't think the Producer disavowed it as much as they HEARD big time on ALL online sites that they should never ever again turn TAR into watching terrible vacation home movies. And the locations were horrible. Especially the western ones which just blended in together as one big piece of dusty landscapes with infinite returns to Park City, Utah featuring that iconic American landmark, the Park City HS parking lot. And 4 people on a team was a terrible dynamic. All teams were endlessly talking over each other so you couldn't hear diddley most of the times. Especially the screaming sisters team. I also hate a recruited team -- a casting agent ran into them at some Mexico vacation spot and recruited them then and there -- that never saw TAR before in their lives won because 4 young 20-somethings had a huge advantage. The only teams I enjoyed watching at all in this seasons were the Paulos and the Weavers. The latter for being entertaining villains and the former because Mama Paulo is a TAR icon worshiped everywhere by us TAR fans. She spoke for us all saying she didn't want to go back to Arizona, she wanted to go to New Zealand. The only person I'd want to see in that season back is Mama and maybe her nice son, Brian. Because DJ was not respecting of our TAR Mama as he should have been he doesn't get to come on Real TAR, hah.

Yeah Colin & Christie "types" can be found in every state in the union in droves. California isn't some unique new age haven.

Ditto a thousand times over. I hope that show makes Magic Mile look like a mega-hit by comparison. And I pledge before you all never ever to watch a single second of that crap. I wouldn't anyway but the endless shill at every commercial break and now in the BB game wants me to boycott CBS in general. I'll take a thousand "Grover Grovers" to these promos any day. Not that I know what that show was nor do I want to know. And CBS, I am suing you for making my thumb raw hitting the mute button over all these promos for Lust Island. (Also suing on behalf of "love" which this isn't about at all).

Welp there you go. Another outside connection of sorts. I'll take Christie and Tommy's outside connection any day because those two working together may have the only chance of taking down the two Jacks. I can't see any other HGs doing it. I can see Nick or Bella trying but failing. No one else has any power/leverage at all to even try. And I'm glad Christie told Tommy about Jack's power too. It doubles the possibility one of them may run their mouth enough to tell someone else like say Nick or Bella to stir things up. Tell Bella and the whole house will know.