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I love David Spade as a host! He is such a funny and clever guy and I love his off the cuff humor- the cast seems to like him a lot too and I like the fact that David is a fan of the show in real life- in part to poke fun at it each week. Great call on Amy Schumer as a woman co host- another great option would be the hilarious Natasha Legerro.

This show is great already! The naked, ripped 40 year old with a giant faded American flag on his chest, my favorite catty and funny bitch Queen Victoria rocking her beach bod, the adorable Abigail hitting it off with Noah and the welcome addition of David Spade's quick witted and funny banter with the cast. I'm looking forward to cat fights, hook ups, drunken professions of love, the inevitable random shots of an ambulance and shocked expressions, and and hot HOT men who lack substance but have abs for days! This franchise always lifts me out my "case of the Mondays" 😄!

Tom Bergeron would be a great host! Another idea for a lovable uncle type host could be David Ruprecht from Supermarket Sweep- I love that guy!

She really is so much fun! Did you see her in the movie "Best in Show"? She and Fred Willard were hilarious in that 😄.

I love David Spade- he was great in Tommy Boy and Black Sheep, I think that he's a good host for The Bachelor in Paradise because his dead pan jokes are a refreshing contrast to all the romance and hope in this show and I could see him flirting with some of the ladies. I'd love it if Norm McDonald could host The Bachelor and maybe Jennifer Coolidge could host The Bachelorette- I like the jaded, darkly funny types. I'm not into Tayshia and Kaitlyn- they're way too basic, unfunny and chirpy to me.

Are you referring to the show "More To Love" with the dad bod guy Luke? I think that's the show- he was a handsome bigger guy and the pretty women contestants were all plus sized. I remember that show! I can't find it anywhere to re watch online, but it was a great show- lots of drama and fun.

She calls him "Honey Bear"?! What a boner killer. What happened to just calling a guy his name? That's what I do when I date!

Exactly! She wouldn't have three guys fawning over her in real life, so why would she expect it on the show?! And for Katie's main schtick being sex positivity, the fantasy suite episode was very underwhelming. She really isn't all that; very self absorbed, hot headed and she doesn't have a captivating personality or good looks. Katie was as mean as a junk yard dog to Greg during the reunion and I give him major props for calmly communicating with her rather than fighting fire with fire and tearing her down. Katie's aunt is an angry, jaded woman who uses an abrasive personality and flippant remarks as a defense mechanism.

I agree about their speculated earnings not being accurate- there is no way that Katie and Blake; two completely inarticulate and dumb people are making that much money. I'm convinced that most of the jobs listed on TV underneath peoples names on this show are about as realistic as a kindergartener dressing up for Halloween as an astronaut or a president.

I'll give Katie and Blake 6 months to a year maximum: they're both self absorbed, fame hungry, and sexually impulsive. I think that Blake is a player who gets off on the fame/opportunities that this show brings him and I don't think that he'll stick with plain Jane Katie once a ton of attractive influencers and fans get into his DM's. Katie seems really desperate for an engagement and she looks at Blake with such frenzied desperation and uncertainty; there is zero mystique or poise to that girl. Blake isn't a prize and she's kidding herself if she thinks he genuinely loves her and is in this for the long haul.

Kaitlyn and Tashia's outdated pink and silver dresses look like they're straight from "Romy and Michele's High School Reunion".

Exactly! Break ups bring up a lot of emotions and aren't predictable- I remember in my early 20's I was so pissed off at a boyfriend suddenly choosing to end things right after I got out of the shower that I forgot how to wear a towel! I wrapped it around my neck like a pashmina scarf in my dorm room while yelling at him 😄! In my 30's I have an exit plan: I secretly order an Uber as soon as I realize I'm being broken up with, cut the guy off 3 minutes in and announce that I'm leaving to get my Uber to go home and then I walk tall to that ride without looking back!

That's what bothers me a lot every season and I always wonder how the contestants' ex girlfriends feel watching this play out on TV having spent probably years in relationships with them all for nothing only to see them tell the lead who they barely know, "I've never felt this way about anyone before" "Nobody has checked all of these boxes for me in the past". These guys are all social media fame opportunists who want a free vacation, free drinks and some grab ass along the way.

The villain is Katie's stylist.

I forgot to mention the scene of Kaitlyn futzing around with her shoes and pants while Katie was having a breakdown in the bathroom! I kept waiting for Kaitlyn to get out a magnifying mirror and tweezers or a Sudoku puzzle- maybe a bag of Doritos! 😄 They should've brought Tayshia out to console her by repeatedly saying, "It's a lot".

I was oddly attracted to Greg's crying! I've dated some emotionally unavailable guys in the past, so to see Greg with his sexy five o'clock shadow and his nice eyes well up in tears- it was a sight to behold! I did see an ex cry once when his favorite sports team lost, and it did NOTHING for me! 😄.

Is it a Bachelorette requirement to be light enough to leap onto a guy while hugging him? Its so strange and annoying to watch. Greg seems bent out of shape over Katie- but rest assured, he could find a girl just like Katie at an apple picking orchard, Starbucks, Panera, or strip mall. I loved the final montage scene of Greg as if he died in a tragic 1 on 1 fishing date with her or something.

I completely agree! I think that the calls to his toddler were annoying too- it was an obvious producer ploy to show what a kind and caring dad he is, but they just felt really put on and exploitative of the kid. I question the true motives for a single dad who is still grieving the loss of his wife to apply to a show and leave his 4 year old for at least 2 months for only a 1 in 30 chance of coming out of this with a relationship. I highly doubt any of these men would be so bowled over by Katie or her looks if they met organically in a bar or party- it's the limelight of TV and social media/business opportunities that draw them to be on the show. It's 2021, most single guys swipe on apps to score dates for the rest of the week while their current date touches up her makeup in a bar bathroom- these guys on The Bachelorette aren't fooling me with their flowery Hallmark card phrases of love and readiness for marriage!

I read that JP and Ashley separated last year. He's on the market, ladies!

I'm glad to find another JP fan! He will always be the hottest Bachelorette contestant ever to me.

Ashley was nice at least from what I saw of her when she was The Bachelorette. I heard that she was on Brad Womack's season, but I only started watching this show with her season as the lead.

I remember the roast of Ashley Herbert! It was brutal- William, the "cellular phone salesman" from Ohio ripped her a new one. I felt so bad for Ashley when she sobbed while hyperventilating backstage after the roast was over. JP was so unbelievably sexy to me that season. Here's the attached roast that was the most offensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbyUx6ogurc

I'm with you! I think he sounded really scripted at times, like when he said, "How lucky it is to fall in love twice" after knowing Katie for maybe a week. I think he maybe thought Katie was cute to casually date and also wanted to get his name out there by being on the show as a business owner so that people could google him and find/support his online business ventures. I think regardless of how nice most of the guys seem, they all came on the show for social media followers and to elevate their attractiveness to local single girls in their hometowns.

These guys are giving Katie way too much credit saying she "changed their lives" like she's some motivational speaker at a Learning Annex class! And "stunning" or "gorgeous"?! I'd say she is "cute" or approachable maybe, but haven't they looked at a Sports Illustrated swimsuit magazine or hell, even their local mall? I can only attribute their feelings to the Stockholm Syndrome pressure cooker that is The Bachelor/Bachelorette franchise.

Hahaha 😆 most of the women in line for the audition fit your description to a T ! The women in line were all at least 5'8", blonde hair with extensions/blue eyes, with long evening gowns, pageant crowns and sashes. I felt really out of place at 4'11" with wavy brown hair/green eyes in a coral bodycon dress and heels. I think what also put me out of the competition was we had to present a prop to show a talent during interviews and I showed the casting agent golf balls that I blew apart with my friend's hand guns and rifles from 100 to 200 yards on the gun range- maybe they thought that I was a safety liability 😄!