Boo Boo

I talk with my hands all the time, but not like that! He's nuts. And I'm Team Andrei. The "shutup" thing made me pause, but I'm more inclined to believe she's thrown the shut ups at him before and that's the way they argue.

I'll have to rewatch and see if I pick up on it. Anyway, @gonecrackers I am sorry for coming off so strongly! I do want to hear your views!

I felt that the association of "odd" with "special needs" is insult. That's all. I wasn't attacking you nor was I suggesting you were insulting your kids, but I understand that's how it felt to you and for that, I am sorry. I'm good with moving on if you are!

Don't leave b/c of my discomfort with the speculation. I have a nephew with autism and a cousin with Downs. I find it upsetting when their conditions are associated with being weird, so that's where my sensitivity is. This board is us talking about an episode and sharing our thoughts. If I speculate on something, I fully expect discourse about it. Those were my thoughts in response is all! I'll drop it.

You posited "but they're almost portraying him as... 'special'." And then your followup comments were basically he could still be, hold down a job, get married, be functional but they shouldn't have him on the show. You are basically speculating he is special needs. . It's just very hard to understand how you made the leap to they are editing out to make him appear "special." And when I saw the 'special' it just read very insulting to special needs children. Making that leap to me makes it sound like because you find him odd, either he is special needs or they are portraying them to be. I'm really uncomfortable with equating odd with special needs.

Based on the way the Gizelle's kids responded to their dad tells me this rekindled romance is a story line they don't wish to be a part of. If not, so much for this strong woman bullshit Gizelle is peddling. Gizelle has tacky AF taste.

Yeah, I just notice that every time someone on a reality show is awkward, there are a lot of people that start diagnosing them with "on the spectrum" stuff. I just thought the guy looks like someone who was likely a dorky kid, grew up attractive enough but still is in his dorky mindset and is now on a reality show and is nervous on camera!

If Michael, or Michael's mom, really were this insistent on him having children, he would have a young wife who would have likely has his children already. He wouldn't be considering a 54 year old woman. So I don't believe for one minute, this is even a real consideration for Michael. If children were that important to him, he's been with a young woman. On Angela, I don't know what TLC pays, but if she has so many people depending on her, and she wants to keep TLC money, she needs to go see Michael since it appears he can't get into the US.

Wait, we've diagnosed Henry as "special needs" because he appears "awkward" and scratched his head? Socially awkward doesn't mean he's on the spectrum of anything but nerves because he's marrying a stranger. I do not feel like a socially awkward person is being used by Lifetime for a show he signed up for. Nor do I think he's anything but nervous.

Glad that it's credible she's safe. Very scary situation. I can't get over just how horrible Paul is. I mean, we knew it, but I really hoped that he chanced his ways. How terrifying for Karine. And LOL on Angela's meme!

Yes, what concerned me is that the live feed with the cops, he's saying "my baby." In the Karine is missing live video, he said "that baby." i'm worried he killed them both.

I find Ivan so strange.

I think she's willing to go along with the ride if he provides her wealth. She's an attorney, but not all attorneys are wealthy!

Am I the only one that likes Leah? *runs*

There's also a big part of me thinking a lot of the drama that ensues and their twitter wars are stuff they laugh their asses off about when the cameras are off. Of course they are going to need to bring the drama. We aren't going to watch a show that doesn't have it.

I would have understood Mishel if she said, "Yes, I'm hurt -- like anyone would be -- if I was told I wasn't attractive to my partner." Then drop it. The on and on and on and then correcting him that it wasn't the comment, it was the "betrayal." Bitch please.

I believe Steve's reasoning. He was hoping it would grow. His attractiveness didn't grow. Sexual chemistry is something discussed on the show constantly. Has she not seen any MAF season? Does she not realize there are talking heads? That in groups of people there's discussion on whether or not they've banged? She's on a fucking reality show! That's how it works. Haley wasn't averse. That doesn't mean the guy whose shown us how sexually attracted he is to her would throw down with Haley.. And how insecure can you really be for someone that is basically a stranger? She's just a very insecure person. Insecurity isn't sexy.

There's quite a few hamburger places, hot dog stands and pasta places in Lagos. It's actually a very big city. There's even a pizza hut!! I'm assuming that MIchael lives in a suburb but it wouldn't be too hard for them to find Amercian-style food.

And I believe there's no major reason for leaving. But it makes for some drama. When he said more departures than arrivals he meant: No one wants to be in Moldova. Another dig at Andrei's homeland.

I did enjoy how Michael and Stacey couldn't stop laughing at the doll discussion. I mean, it is so fucking stupid! On Cathy and Josh, he was done with her after she got jealous that he was talking to that ugly recovering drug addict I can't remember the name of. And with good reason. No one want to be with someone that insecure.

She is, but it isn't her poise. She just looks older to me. I think Amelia's bridesmaids helped chose their outfits. They were digging the attention whoring.

So BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU BETRAYED ME. YOU LIED. But I'm going to stay because my intelligent daughter said to do the opposite. The same daughter who wanted to throat punch Steve when she learned he was once unfaithful.

Watching this now. Mishel isn't pissed she's been "betrayed" she's pissed and hurt and embarrassed that he doesn't find her attractive. I don't blame her but her boing on and on about betrayal is fucking stupid. And her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Mishel: There's nothing to gain by telling someone you aren't attracted to them...but, Mishel also was suggesting they fuck, so if you're rooming someone who said they want to fuck, maybe you drop that line to let them know you aren't interest. Drew: I think the roommate question was odd. If they truly marry, there's no roommate unless he's so broke they can't live without a 3rd. Secondly, if he wanted to get it on with the roommate and he's already playing house with her, he's not going on this show unless he's a total famewhore (and if she's on it, she is one too). If I had a total stranger ask me if I'd put them before my friend/roommate, I'd probably be hesitant too. She's got some major insecurities and I'd be thinking: bitch, I don't know you yet but you're already striking me as insecure. Seb: I think he's weird. And creepy. Lizzie is also odd. I don't buy that she's never been in love. I think she's one of those people that think "complicated" = interesting. Oh I know. But her half is way different than the bottom half. She's got a very long torso that even when she was heavier, the bottom half is way big. I feel like she got that skinny to shrink her legs.

I feel like Lizzie has an odd shape -- noticed this in her pants. Even when she was heavier, she was thin on top. As anorexic looking as she is, the pants on her looked weird. Her top half has never matched her bottom half.