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However, there were signs throughout the first season that she was getting more comfortable with those things, or at least trying to. Maybe we're seeing character development here.

That would make sense, but watch the opening credits of original L&O sometimes. The word LAW appears on-screen, followed by senior detective, junior detective, captain. Then ORDER appears on screen, there's a picture of a courthouse, followed by EADA, ADA, DA. It doesn't make sense that the cops who keep order are called LAW and the lawyers are called ORDER, but they weren't going to call the show ORDER & LAW, so that's what we got. So detectives are LAW and DA's are ORDER, even though that seems ridiculous. So that's why we say SVU/CI are all LAW and no ORDER. Particularly on CI, where Goren just gets the perp to confess so there's never any need for a courtroom scene.

Hmm, I don't think I found them as compelling as you did. :)

Wolf may have expected the network to blink, and when they didn't, he tried to get the 21st season produced on cable. He found no takers. Perhaps he thought that would work after CI's move to USA. A few years later, the same type of situation comes up with SVU, he knows the network won't blink because they didn't do it the last time, and he knows cable might not work out either. It's also a different situation in general now -- SVU is the only remaining piece of the L&O franchise now. At the time, original L&O was sinking in the ratings, SVU was still going fairly strong, and L&O:LA was right around the corner. Of course, LA turned out to be a disaster, but at the time it had to seem like a better business decision to bet on the new show over an old one that didn't seem to have much life left in it.

http://forums.previously.tv/forum/1208-chips/ That should work.

She was really annoying about that. Never mind that the judges almost advanced Symon to the next round despite him forgetting to plate an entire basket ingredient. If he puts that okra on the plate, he moves on, Penny is probably out, and the final is probably Symon vs. Marcus. And yeah, that episode with Penny, Vic Vegas, and the other two toolboxes was one of the worst I've ever seen. Makes me glad I don't watch Next Food Network Star, though I realize those four were the rejects from that show.

Yeah. Goren seemed to get more passionate about the cases, especially in the earlier years. It was like he wasn't going to sleep at night if he didn't solve the case. Nichols seemed to have a more nonchalant reaction to the horrible criminals he was dealing with. "Hmm, yes, I see now. You were worried your wife was going to leave you, so you shot her parents, burned down her friend's apartment building, and tried to blow up a nearby bus full of nuns. That's interesting. Reminds me of a story I read once. Can I get you a cup of coffee?"

Ha, I knew this would be the title of this thread. What else could it be?

Yeah, I loved Ma and Pa Kent in this series. No tragedy, no weighty drama, just good, believable mother & father characters. It was one of the many ways that the show managed to have compelling characters and ideas, while decidedly not taking itself too seriously. Of course the show had its flaws (from what I remember, by the third or fourth season it had leaped over several sharks in a single bound) but there was a lot to like about it.

The thing is that Marvel wouldn't really get much out of having one of the major stars do a cameo. Ratings might spike for a week, but they'd fall back to Earth on the next episode. So I doubt the AOS cameo possibility would be worthwhile it to bring into negotiations over stars of movies that make hundreds of millions for Marvel. The only way they'd do it is if they had a major star who is generally willing to anything and wouldn't be bothered by making a few TV appearances. Oh wait, they do have that guy, his name is Samuel L. Jackson and he's appeared on AOS twice.

Loved this show as a kid, done some rewatching on DVD lately. I think Cain's portrayal of Kent is very underrated. Certainly preferable to the "gritty" version we recently saw in Man of Steel. I do think Cain makes a better Kent than Superman, and I'm not sure if he would have fit well into a straight Superman action series, but for this style of show he was a good choice. Also, as an adult I've come to believe that any time Clark adjusts his glasses, he's using the X-ray vision. Notice how often he does so when chatting with Lois or "Cat" in S1.

Nick Blood as Lance Hunter. I love how the actor's name sounds better-suited to a comic book than the character's name.

That's one reason. Another reason is that the audience actually remembers Lenny Briscoe. How many people watching actually know who Max Greevey was?

Yes. Of course, it's funny how they mentioned that a few times but the words "Max Greevey" were never uttered once. Wonder why that is?

Of course, 60% of the time people use the blast chiller, it's along the lines of, "I put the ingredients for ice cream into the machine, and got milk soup, so I'm putting the whole thing in the blast chiller with two minutes left and hoping for a miracle."

The two-parter is my favorite episode(s) of the series, and the "IAGO!!!" bit is my favorite line in the series. For completely different reasons, of course. The two-parter as a whole is so good it's awesome, and "IAGO!!!" is so bad it's awesome. Colm hams it up for the whole show, actually, and it legitimately works really well because he's supposed to be a drunk, angry, theatrical egomaniac, but in that particular scene I think he got some of the scenery stuck in his throat.

I'm not a Nicole fan. To me, too much of the show was about her to begin with, I wouldn't watch at all if she was the whole thing!

I definitely prefer the Logan episodes, but it doesn't really get to me that people talk more about the Goren eps. The show was always designed around Goren, obviously he's the character that people are more likely to remember.

Yeah, a common sight on the show is "I'm making an ice cream. What's that, the other chef got to the ice cream machine first? Like I said, I'm making bread pudding."

What's there to miss? Brad Sherwood is still around. He appeared twice this season.

I was just watching the Season 6 crossover which did involve bombings. The L&O DVD has both the L&O half and the Homicide half of the crossover. Not sure what they did for the Season 8 crossover.

Because that way, they kept the focus on the Goren & Eames case while teasing next week's Logan & Barek. If they try to introduce Barek during the last few minutes of that episode, what does that accomplish? There's not enough time to establish any of her character, and it takes away the impact of her debut the following week to have her appear in an episode where she's not going to do anything.

Yeah, one of the great things about the show (and possibly part of its downfall) is how well it portrays embarrassment. There's something cringeworthy in every episode (involving Sam more often than not, but also other characters).

On the other hand, Mothership certainly had a habit of pairing Jack McCoy and his increasingly gray hair with a neverending parade of twenty-something female assistants.

Not saying I like it, but LO:CI always followed the pattern of the male detective being the lead and the female detective taking more of a supporting role. (This was also a problem on Mothership -- only once was there a female detective, and the prosecuting team always centered around a male star with a female assistant. For all of the flaws LO:SVU has, Benson/Stabler was a fairly equal partnership.) Logan didn't completely dominate the show the way Goren or Nichols did, but he was certainly the star of the show in his episodes.