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Thanks, I thought I was overlooking someone on the show. I haven't ever noticed that commercial.

Who is Greer? 🧐

Who's here for the 4th time, Fabio?

Bishme's garment was more visually appealing than that shades of pink mess he made originally...I guess? but would I want to wear it? No. Never. Sorry Bishme. ...and while I can appreciate Kayne's transformation from coat to skirt as it made for a great runway moment, IDK? I didn't love it quite as much as everyone else did. It didn't really work as a coat IMO and I couldn't see myself wanting to wear the skirt, beautiful as it was. He's definately very talented though. I understand them giving him the win. I didn't even mind his original look. I loved the unusual quality of Fabio's look and Mila's just as much, maybe more. With time to take a second look Rami's was the other one I really liked. Those are the ones I'd want to wear if I had the tall willowy figure and the budget for designer clothes. I agree with a lot of your takes. Would've liked to see more of Nora as I couldn't even find photos of what she made in season 1. If only her sewing had been better. Victor can go to some whacky costume design competition! Just when we thought it couldn't possibly get more gimicky than stilts! The taste level. 🫣 :clutches pearls: While I like Christian, I'll always miss Tim Gun. Wouldn't miss Elaine or Brandon though. Even though Fabio's look really appealed to me, I have to admit when Mimi walked in it I wondered if the aspect of my TV was off. Mimi almost always appears so tall and slinky in the clothes, but not tonight.

Did anyone else notice during the introduction to the show they referred to it as PR: All Stars, not the 20th year of PR?🤔

I loved Fabio's (I think it was...the one with the striped sleeveless tunic thing?) and Mila's looks! Wish we could have longer looks at the safe one's and a few judges remarks on them. i say the same thing every season, but really they could fit it in in an hour and a half.

Night people who missed it can watch s 20 Meet the Designers when it airs again at 3:00 a.m. EST on Bravo or it airs at 8:00 p.m. EST on the 15th before s20 e2 airs at 9:00 p.m. Thursday June 15th p.s. looks like Project Runway all day on Thurs the 15th! (starting a 6:00 a.m.)

Thank you! I thought I'd lost the plot. I'd swear I read the 15th as the premier date!

These will be the 14 returning contestants on s20, their photos and bios can be seen here: https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/project-runway-season-20-cast-all-stars-designers-bravo/pr-kara-saun/ Brittany Allen s18 Prajje Oscar Jean-Baptiste s19 Laurence Basse s15 Fabio Costa s10 Bishme Cromartie s17 Jonathan "Kayne" Gillespie s3 Mila Hermanovski s7 Rami Kashou s4 Victor Luna s9 all stars s3 Korto Momolu s5 Nora Pagel s1 Kara Saun s1 Hester Sunshine s17 Anna Yinan Zhou s17

IDK if this sneak peak of s20 been posted yet? Project Runway is celebrating 20 years of the reality competition series with an “All-Stars” edition set to premiere on Thursday, June 15 at 8 p.m. ET on Bravo. The network announced that the premiere will be two parts and you can watch a preview of the upcoming season in the video posted above. Returning as judges are Nina Garcia, Brandon Maxwell and Elaine Welteroth with Christian Siriano set as a mentor. In Season 20, fourteen of the most beloved designers from across the 19 seasons of the show will return and have a shot at winning the competition. Guest judges that will appear throughout the season include Alicia Silverstone, Billy Porter, fashion designer Zac Posen, CEO & founder of “alice + olivia” Stacey Bendet, creative director of Carolina Herrera Wes Gordon, actor, producer and Emmy Award-winning writer Lena Waithe, image architect and celebrity stylist Law Roach and 90210 alum Jennie Garth. Other guest stars include Paulina Porizkova, designer Sergio Hudson, Julia Fox, designer Willy Chavarria, Below Deck and The Traitors star Kate Chastain, The Real Housewives of New York City star Luann de Lesseps, designer Batsheva Hay, Emmy-winning actor Coleman Domingo and Steven Kolb, CEO of Council of Fashion Designers of America. The “All-Stars” are competing for a prize of $250,000 and a mentorship with the CFDA (Council of Fashion Designers of America) and a feature in Elle magazine.

The whole Ellen thing was beyond ridiculous. They took a tailor made opportunity to make a massively successful movie even better by eliminating it's weak final act with a knife wielding psycho killer who keeps coming back when you think they're gone. ... and ended the series with yet another disturbed person who sees things that aren't there (between her and her professor) and is willing to do whatever it takes to remove any obstacles to getting what she wants. She's already looking crazy while uttering Alex's words "It seems like you're mad at me. Are you mad at me?". The fact that she's studying psychology and is in therapy doesn't seem to enter into it.. I didn't read anything about the series but the dribs and drabs that made their way over here were about making Alex less of a crazed psychopath and more of a fully fleshed out character and then they give us unbalanced Ellen on the loose, a blatant set up for more of the same thing they vowed get away from with this vehicle.

I was thinking about who I would've liked to see cast as the two leads. Thinking of making it a topic but interest seemed to be waning here so I didn't. Lizzie Caplan is plenty capable but I didn't care for the way Alex was portrayed in the series. Eva Green! and Timothy Olyphant or for a younger pair: Amanda Seyfreid or maybe Riley Keough and IDK... Chris Pratt?

I agree with just about all of your post. I wanted it to be sewn up in one season and I feared they'd leave the whole who killed Alex mystery unsolved in an attempt to draw it out for another season. Amanda Peet did in fact look younger in the latter day scenes! and it seems Joshua Jackson can't help but come across at least in part as a decent guy. They may not have identified Arthur's fingerprints if they're not in the system because he's never been booked for a crime or worked as a government official or held a license where they take your fingerprints, like a gun permit. Arthur had a tiny bit of motive besides wanting to end Beth's troubles and she and her daughter being in danger as Alex set fire to a house he and Beth were in; though I'm sure that was a lesser part of his motivation. As to the sentence Dan served, I wonder what he would have gotten if convicted of assaulting Alex instead? He did toss her all around her apartment and choked her and could have caused serious injury. I have to think he would have served some time for that? No doubt he'd have lost his job and relationships in that event, too. As to your last part: Over on the compare movie to series thread you can see the original ending as filmed being introduced by Adrien Lynne! I knew when I watched for the first time the other day why it tested badly with audiences. Alex sets Dan up to take the fall for her murder, but while searching for the lawyer's number Beth finds a cassette tape Alex made that announces her intent to commit suicide. It doesn't say any of that nasty aggressive stuff the tape in the final cut did. She's distraught and pleading with Dan if this doesn't work out I'll just cut deeper next time. In the final scene Alex slices her throat with the knife Dan had grasped in her apartment. The one just before that shows Beth weeping with joy clutching the tape that she knows will completely exonerate Dan.

You may be completely correct, thankfully I have no real knowledge of how parole boards conduct the hearings and what they want to hear from inmates where a DA would. My thought was if he knew he was going to come out wanting to prove his innocence and requesting a new trial, having lied in his initial interrogation and at his first trial, lying again to the parole board wouldn't help his credibility in the long run.

Airs May 28, 202 Fatal Attraction is now streaming on Paramount+. New episodes are released every Sunday until the finale on May 28, 2023.

It's looking like we might find out if they ever found Alex's body? or if there was more blood other places? if she was pregnant? and how Dan got convicted Sunday! 3 or 4 websites are stating ep 7 Best Friends and ep 8 Caregiving will both air Sunday 5-28. (I'm looking for absolute confirmation)

Press Release 1.07 - Best Friends - 2023-05-28[Spoiler TV] An affair threatens the lives of Dan Gallagher and his wife, Beth, in this reimagining of the 1987 movie, exploring marriage and infidelity through the lens of modern attitudes toward strong women, personality disorders and coercive control. L- R Cliff Chamberlain as Stanley Forrest and Lizzy Caplan as Alex Forrest in Fatal Attraction episode 7 _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Cosmopolitan, Town and Country and Ready Steady Cut websites are all stating ep 7 Best Friends and 8 Caregiving will air on 5/28/23: "The final two episodes will be released on May 28. Think of it like an old-school two-part finale with all the twists and reveals you could ask for. Episodes 7 and 8 on May 28." - quote Leah Marilla Thomas Cosmopolitan

Yes. they named some case he helped someone named Rangle with in ep 1. So he was productive and used his time to help others. I think he mentioned working on other cases in later episode(s). Adding to that, until he committed his first crime he was a colleague in the justice system. He'd served 15 years of the 15 to life sentence and he maintained a clean disciplinary record the entire time he was in prison. Did he really have to go over the top and talk about how he gave in to rage and killed Alex Forrest? (he told Ellen they, the parole board needed to hear that). Under what theory were they going to deny him parole? ...and certainly if he came out wanting to clear his name then he knew the day before he got out that he wanted to prove he didn't do it. Why assail your OWN credibility like that?

You recognized the actor playing Mike as The Wiz from Seinfeld's? You ARE a fan! Yep, definately!

Reading this I thought that in a place where weed is legal as Dan and Mike made mention of by saying we put so many people away for this... and now it's legal; if being high is a parole violation, wouldn't being inebriated from alcohol use also be? As I have no experience with this (Thank God) I Googled the question. Under probation and parole technical violations in the very first paragraph it lists testing positive for drug or alcohol use as one. The probation or parole officer has a range of sanctions at their disposal and might give the person a verbal reprimand or increase their reporting requirements or some such thing rather than the individual being sent right back to prison https://www.cga.ct.gov/pri/archives/2001ricreportappenA.htm So you're right, millenium. Being intoxicated on anything is a dumb thing for someone out on parole to do that could have negative repercussions. What Dan and Mike are together... I've been trying to figure out since this thing started. Is the actor playing Mike doing some riDICulous overacting? Is this some of the worst "dialogue" / banter between colleagues ever written? such gems as: "later tater" "they irised in on him" "oh, hi" said looking into the refrigerator for ketchup or "other goos" 🙄

Presumed Innocent was a really good movie! Regarding if there will be a body and if series Alex would have killed herself... I'd heard about the "other ending" for Fatal Attraction that supposedly didn't test well with audiences, but I'd never seen it before. Here it is: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&tbm=vid&q=Fatal+Attraction+1987+with+alternate+ending&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwje7uKQmIz_AhUtF1kFHRDmDjoQ8ccDegQIBRAJ&biw=1093&bih=502&dpr=1.25#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:3965c384,vid:GY_NQK7rJrY Personally, I think it's that 2nd to last bit that's unsatisfying

Absolutely right. It was beyond stupid to start off lying in answer to Detective Earl's questions, and then he compounded his mistake by volunteering a lie in answer to something that hadn't even been asked! ...and fresh off confessing the affair to Beth when his boss sent him home early in the day so she could look into the complaint letter she'd received, Dan just effortlessly lied to her again about the reason he was home early. When 55 year old just released from prison Dan approaches someone because he wants something be it Gabriel the bailiff's help, Conchita to answer to him, a job, an explaination from his ex-wife, to reconnect with Ellen... or whatever, he speaks softly and tends to avert his eyes. That doesn't indicate we're seeing a man who's changed or achieved growth. When Mike said something like we've made cases with a lot less, Dan didn't even quibble about that. If he was supposedly convicted with a weak body of evidence, shouldn't he feel rather strongly about such failings of the judicial system? especially having had 15 years to basically do nothing but sit and think about it? HE'S just determined to clear HIS name.

FWIW I'd assumed they didn't let Beth give Dan an alibi because he was out of the house assaulting Alex and then driving home, he was not home all night with his family. They may have stated it was so she didn't have to commit perjury when questioned about whether Dan had had an affair with Alex because that sounds a whole lot better. To daughter Ellen, especially. I hardly think Dan's affair with Alex would remain a secret anyway after him parking his car there on what 5 occasions? 3 trysts and 2 "discussions" fingerprints in the apartment and the photos on Alex's phone. ...and that's assuming no one saw them together in an intimate moment. I really thought Beth's reactions were great when she told Dan they were done after he confessed to the affair and especially when he summoned her after he got out to ask how could you stay away and keep Ellen away[when I told you that was what I needed]? was it that easy? and she got up and left! Now, she's going to let her friend and business partner and his wife pay for Dan's defense that might cost a half million dollars? His wife is dying of cancer, right? What if some drug or other treatment were to come down the pike that's not covered by insurance? It does happen where some drug is found to be working on patients with x disease but it's not yet FDA approved to treat that particular condition so people have to pay out of pocket because they don't have time to wait until it's approved for their condition. I'd tell him you better call in a favor from some colleague.

I saw it as she hears the row and goes to see what's going on and then she sees Dan leaving and there's no more noise after that, so IDK if that would help Dan's defense? The only indication we're given that she might still be alive when Dan leaves is the neighbor seeing a shifting shadow under her door. Could be a mortally wounded Alex by the door. So it wasn't really: she saw Dan leaving then she heard some movements from Alex's apartment. IDK who Carmen is and couldn't find it on IMBD. I assumed it was someone who works in the DA's office or the police department? but that's what Earl said when informing Dan that Alex called in a complaint. He could be making that up too. (the name, not the complaint). He said "she made the complaint over the phone to Carmen, Carmen knows that I know you she gave me a heads up and I pulled it". This was when Earl was still trying to come across like he was trying to help Dan. Dan immediately thanked him. Earl was in information gathering mode at that point and then turned on Dan when he lied to his face and then lied some more. Speaking of the blood puddle the other detective who was filling Earl in as he left said " no body, no weapon, lots of blood." Was that really lots of blood? Was there blood in other places we weren't shown yet? I wonder. If Dan the L.A. DA with all his legal contacts and friends helping him gets convicted of 2nd degree murder on that much blood at the scene and no body that would be absolutely outrageous!!! and I'll feel like I wasted 8 hours watching this trash. I'm assuming there will be a body. YW

I'm not sure I answered clearly, We see that the neighbor lady hears the row goes to investigate and see's Dan walking out shaking his hand and she overhears the last part when he says "and you'll have to do it yourself". She knocks on Alex's door but gets no answer. Then next thing Earl is walking around Alex's apartment calling police staff for info on and a photo of Alex. He said the investigation stemmed from a wellness check, so I presume the neighbor lady initiated that. Earl initially told Dan Alex made the complaint over the phone to Carmen and that he pulled it, so they could get in front of it. He said it was straightforward, that she alleged Dan showed up at her place, came in and assaulted her. It's after Dan lies about being involved with her or even knowing where she lives that Earl reveals that he knows that Dan's fingerprints are all over Alex's apartment.