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When I used the word poor I meant in comparison to having $5 mil. No, I didn't get the impression Belinda was enthusiastic about sharing her dream with Pornchai or anyone... just that had she remained a resort spa worker, she may have eventually warmed to the idea figuring two saving toward the goal of their own spa might be able to make it happen sooner than one could. She didn't jump on it or totally shoot it down... until her circumstances changed it to a definite NO. That's how it hit me, but honestly this was one of the least interesting storylines to me for reasons already stated. 1. she seemed too smart to let on to Gary that she recognized him and practically tremble every time she saw him + 2. I didn't see chemistry between Belinda and Pornchai

It's amazing what we'll watch in hopes it will get good again. The better the initial season or couple of seasons are, the longer we'll hang in... or is it just me? 🤔 I stuck with True Blood for seven seasons! I can hardly be bothered with Belinda / Pornchia In the beginning she seemed very scared. Like she might just crack under the pressure worrying about Greg. Then she gets tough and turns the screws on him even surprising MBA wunderkind Zion??? How did that transition happen? You could have knocked me over with a feather when she invited Pornchia into her bed. I didn't get that they were vibing in that way, at all. I think had they both remained poor she might've thought wth, two of us saving trying to get a business off the ground it might happen faster than I could do it alone... but now that she has the money to call her own shots and shape her own destiny? It's bye Pornchia, it's been real!

That makes sense. Now I'm going to have to watch this damned thing again.

Testosterone + big d__k energy, I presume.

I just added the thought to my post above that it would be quite a coincidence Saxon skips his shake on the same day the dad leaves poison in the blender.

How do we know that? He seemed dedicated to getting his daily protein shake on... so much so that he couldn't focus on anything else until housekeeping brought him his blender. Coincidentally this is the day Saxon skips his shake... the same day the dad leaves poison in it?

Mike White should consider maybe there are some quite watchable actors in TWL, and he's just a dull plodding limited storyteller [writer]. 🥱 ...and he's benefiting from the fact there's no must see TV on currently. (maybe on streaming, but not on cable). Just watched the finale again. Two things: Before most of the Ratliffes go off to breakfast Lochy says to Saxon you know if you make one of your protein shakes, I'd drink it. Saxon says I already had one, but if you want to make one the stuff is on the counter. How is there deadly Pong Pong tree seed residue in the blender after Saxon has had his nasty drink he chugs for the T and the BDE? 🤔 Gaitok came upon Rick with Chelsea in his arms and Sritala bent over her husband. There were no bullets flying at that moment. Just before he got there people in the area were ducking bullets meant for Rick that hit Chelsea, but not at that moment. Why doesn't Gaitok run to the nearest phone to summon medical help? Rick wasn't shooting at Sritala's husband anymore... yet she wanted Rick shot more than she wanted medical assistance to maybe see if her husband could be saved?🤔

We need a very thorough... you went above and beyond emotie! 👍 🕵️‍♀️

A "tightly wound thriller"? served up over 8 weeks ??? That's a big NO. With a tonne of editing this could've made a decent 90 minute movie... maybe a two-parter. I've never fallen asleep watching a series so much in my life.😴 I didn't forsee Chelsea's dying with Rick, but her countering "what could be worse?" to whatever it was Chloe was babbling about model girlfriends who were romantics ending up with broken hearts kept recurring to me throughout. Timothy even thinking of offing his family was ridiculous. If he did himself in maybe by ingesting ground Pong Pong fruit seeds and slipping into the water, his family would stay wealthy... because best believe a business man who considers 10 mil not that big of a deal has significant life insurance. but if he did stand to lose everything and you tease the audience for this long (or many scenes) with the certainty the shallow materialistic family members especially mum are headed for a major meltdown, how dare you cheat us out of it [Mr. White]? Cut the incest-ish scene and for God's sake Frank's monologue. [I know many thought it was brilliant... I thought it was some gross oversharing] I'd cut 3/4 of the blond squad... blond mob whatever's material. The robbery and the Russians didn't matter... I guess only to count as the 2nd bad thing to happen to Chelsea after the snake bite. As if Saxon would have wasted all that time targeting two taken women like Chelsea and Chloe. 🙄He'd be conquering other hotel patrons or local girls. He said It's a numbers game, Loch. Never thought Piper was going to become a Buddhist so that was another time suck. They could have just been on a family vacation. and of course, Rick with a few working brain cells would've never returned to the hotel that the old man he pushed over and the woman he just conned owned.🙄 So so dumb. Did anyone notice when Chelsea was explaining her spiritual bond with Rick to Saxon in a previous episode she said when they met he told her his whole life story and she was touched and determined to save him? It didn't fit with all their scenes revolving around her being unable to get him to talk about what was bothering him.

Rick probably didn't expect that old man to threaten him with a gun after pushing him over, but he just went back to the resort he and Sritala own and didn't expect him to sic his bodyguards on him or anything? So Lochlan's motivation was supposedly being a people pleaser? His first time in sexual congress with a woman and he reaches out and touches his brother because he didn' t want him to feel left out? Most people can't keep 2 thoughts going at the same time! Anyway, ew 🤢 😵‍💫🤮 Tim sees his first born son who's following in his footsteps make smoothies in that blender he requested every day... and he just leaves deadly Pong Pong fruit residue in it and goes to bed? Right. Piper could tell the food wasn't organic?🤭 Belinda should've called the police in Italy in the beginning and never let on she recognized Greg/Gary. The 3 blondes were so boring, so shallow... to the bitter end. 🥱Did Laurie really say I'm glad you have a beautiful face [Jackie] and I'm glad you have a beautiful life [Kate]? Most of all I feel cheated not seeing Victoria's reaction to her demotion to having to live like a regular person. She's gonna need more meds. Glad to see Frank back at the monestary praying. Sawadee Krap Thailand

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest for they were headed toward a relationship.

Yes, that pretty much sums up Saxon... but what I want to know is what on earth is motivating Lochlan?🤔😧 I've known men like Saxon and I've seen people seriously enibriated. stoned, whatever... but thank God I've never known anyone to touch their own brother (or sister) in a sexual way.

I didn't see any of that in this scene... but I guess that's why we have so much to talk about.😏 I'll give you (and Mike White) this, a real life Saxon would not change his ways in a week! That may sound confusing so to clarify, I thought they were showing that Chelsea reluctantly felt something for Saxon when he touched her???? but, I could be wrong

No. I Google it. Noah wyle's back? I watched him in ER. I've always liked medical dramas, so when I can sign in to MAX, I'll check it out.Thanks 😊

Weeell, as our TV / internet / phone service is pretty darned expensive, I don' t subscribe to any streaming services I meant to say above I'm on someone else's desktop... and of course, a cell phone. As far as what I'm into, HBO's been running all their old series recently and ROME was my all time favorite by miles!❤️ I watched American God's until Starz was it, quit it in the middle. Been watching House of the Dragon. 🙇‍♀️ Liked: The Affair. In Treatment...

Thanks. I 'm on a borrowed laptop as my 2 just up an died!😔 Until I find a replacement, it's regular TV.

Hello fellow TWL watchers ☺️ There really isn't any must see TV going on now, for me anyway. Anyone else have current favs? Recommendations? I'm looking forward to Project Runway, The Last Of Us and I guess since production of And Just Like That wrapped in Jan. 2025 that could be back sometime in the coming months but there doesn't seem to be any official word.

Going to put some other show talk in "small talk" so as to not clog up the thread.

Belinda, of course thinks her life is in danger from a wife killer, so that's really out of the ordinary. Getting tiresome, but for her... pretty major. Both Chloe and Chelsea are with much older guys who treat them pretty badly... or at the very least dismissively and that's never addressed. Re. the Ratliffes: Once they conveyed Timothy was so shook by his legal troubles that he considered offing himself, we get it. Time does not need to be taken up with him imagining all the various suicide scenarios and holding the gun, searching for the gun etc. Victoria is wretched 😒 That whole happy marriage and family life are such a house of cards. Watching an earlier episode (2?) She entered the bdr and told Timothy she'd gotten a second wind, to which he said "oh shit". She replied don't worry I took a Lorezapam.😯 Saxon having his younger brother perform any kind of sexual act on him while he's impaired from taking his first drug is a pretty major life event and it sure seems like some kind of discussion and questioning of Lochlan's motives would be in order. That's a lot to let lie I guess it's nothing compared to incest or whatever you call sex play between brothers, but come to think of it why was Saxon so inappropriate with his siblings in the beginning? I find it hard to care about whether Piper stays at the monastery / with Buddhism... but I'll go with it for a moment. She seemed very relieved when Lochlan volunteered to spend the night along with her, then when he floated doing a year there she looked to say the least... apprehensive.🤷‍♀️ Chloe and Gary are hard to care about, but I did think Gary's sudden urge to gather everyone he's had the slightest contact with at TWL in for a party was quite odd. He doesn't seem like that sociable a guy in the first place. Maybe he just wanted to observe the dynamic between his girlfriend and Saxon... but again, that never happened. I like Sam Rockwell and there are movies of his I'll watch whenever they're on TV, but I could have lived my whole life without his character Frank's oversharing of his journey to religion and sobriety and seeing how little it took for him to return to life as a sex tourist. I'm pretty sure using others in that way is completely antithetical to the teachings of Budda. And gross. I don't think the writer succeeded in making the 3 American women, their dynamic or their escapades interesting, but hopefully others are enjoying them.🤔 The things the writer did choose to explore in the time he had are annoying me! Why do we need to know about the staff member's Fabian(?) apprehension about performing? Or Gaitok's competency with firearms being questioned by his supervisor and then his performance at the range? unless* Or the American girls (well one) freaking out when they encounter older, not so fit folks on holiday? and all those shots of the monkeys? Lots and lots of time spent on meaningless BS while interpersonal relationships should be developed beyond having laid the groundwork. Maybe Mike White will sew this all up in an entertaining way in the 90 minute finale and I'll eat my words. I just hope the death is not *Gaitok shooting one of the Russian thieves. 🙄 Which hopefully is a distraction; otherwise Mook practically questioning his masculinity, the supervisor doubting his proficiency with a gun and Gaitok recognizing one of the Russians from the robbery at the Thai boxing match makes this too obvious.

I thought that they were trying to convey that after all of Chelsea's rebuffing Saxon, calling him soulless and saying he just couldn't get it ... meaning her bond with her man... It seemed she felt attraction when he touched her. I felt they were being anything but subtle conveying that, so that's what I was being sarcastic about. Of course you may be right and I may be wrong... 🤔 History is on your side. lol but if she was going to dismiss him quickly throwing some books at him, why would she have agreed when Saxon asked her to teach him what she knows about meditation and such? (and ostensibly becoming a better person). She could have just written down some book titles. Why did she take him to a quiet place where they sat across from each other cross legged? Saxon looked pretty surprised when she pulled back so suddenly and started throwing books at him. Didn't he ask if that was it? So I think she planned to spend a bit of time and effort but cut it short when feeling something for him startled her. I was also being sarcastic about someone above's suggestion they'd end up together. I'll just be pleased if either She rethinks her relationship with Rick or he starts being a whole lot nicer to her.

This summer? That's good news! 🤸‍♀️

It kind of bugged me when Lochlan agreed to stay the night with Piper at the monastery because it surely wasn't what Victoria wanted her daughter to get the feel of being halfway around the world, alone in rather austere surroundings, and among people who speak a different language and have different customs. If I were Piper my brother staying overnight with me and possibly tagging along for my year stay at the monastery would make me feel very secure and protected. I'd be even more into going! Well, unless I knew what he was getting up to with my other brother. 🫣 Actually the mystery of Lochlan's motivations where Saxon is concerned is the only interesting thing going on IMO. SICK!, but more interesting than the 3 women, Belinda and her ill advisedly letting Gary know she's onto him, or the borderline abusive relationships between Gary and Chloe and Rick and Chelsea. I cannot measure my indifference to the Frank distracting Sritala with visions of restarting her acting career while Rick... 🥱🥱🥱 what is it Rick is doing, again? The Ratliffe's Patriarch ceased to be interesting a while ago with all the imagined suicide scenarios and contemplating just how many family members to take out.🤨 Someone a few posts back mused about Chelsea and Saxon getting together... When teaching him to meditate he laid his hands on hers and she pulled back as though she'd been burned! Then threw the books at him and dismissed him saying the lesson's over. I suppose this was the writer's not so subtle way of telling us she's attracted to him after all. 🙄

In ep.6 when they woke up after the night of partying Saxon and Lochlan were around each other. Lochlan said he couldn't remember anything, but IDK if I believe that? 🤔 After all Lochlan didn't hesitate to take the X, suggesting maybe he wasn't a first timer and could handle his high. Saxon who did remember, quickly added we both blacked out. They both had rather awkward expressions on their faces but no real discussion took place. Lochlan asked are you alright right before Saxon was sick to his stomach. They were together walking back to the hotel where discussion about Piper's confession there's no thesis etc was going on. Saxon drank a smoothie and refused to make eye contact with Lochlan as he left saying see you later. So as far as their not having seen each other since they both sorted through the sex haze... I don't know if I believe Lochlan only became aware of what happened when he was at the monastary... but he did look a little startled, so maybe? Prior to Gary's party, in ep.6 Saxon asked Tim if he was alright? It struck me as odd because there was Dad acting all sedated and out of it in eps 1-5 and then he seemed not to be in ep 6, except for mixing up the names saying "Locher and Pipelan were at the monestary". @peeayebee Thanks! I'd made a mental note to look up the suicide fruit trèe, and now I don't have to.

I can't recall where I heard or read that a confrontation between Lochlan and Saxon was coming, but I find it disappointing it hasn't happened yet. I think they've been in each other's presence since the night of taking X, drinking and having sex with Chloe haven't they? If there's never any conversation between the two or examination of Lochlan's motives, I'll find extremely frustrating and I doubt I'll be watching any future seasons of TWL. Not contesting anyone's views who are liking Saxon a bit better now than in the begining because everyone is certainly entitled to see it how they see it , but honestly if it's based on not taking drugs and not signing up for Gary + Chloe's crazy sexcapades the bar is pretty low. I'm remembering that the reason he was instructing his younger brother to stay clearheaded was to make it easier to prey upon the women who weren't. I guess a point in his favor is that he was the one to finally notice something was off and ask his dad if he was OK, but it struck me that in that particular episode...6, I think? Tim wasn't acting like he was impaired. He did seem so in the episodes before that one and since. As others have pointed out Saxon did pretty quickly bring the conversation back to concerns about his own career. @peeayebeeIn the scenes from next episode, the finale... a staff member is responding to Tim asking about the tree. She tells him they call it the suicide tree because the fruit is poisonous and warns him not to eat it. You can practically see gears turning in his head.