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Do the feeds start tonight (Wednesday) or tomorrow (Thursday)?

I agree. I don’t like to have expensive jewelry when traveling. It is dangerous in some places in that there are skilled pickpockets and also wearing hugely large diamond rings on your finger and TV crews following you highlighting where you are and what you are doing... best to leave irreplaceables at home. Especially after the attack on Kim K in Paris after showing off that giant diamond gift from Kanye and then being robbed at gunpoint. Not going to comment on if this is what really happened or not with Kim as it is irrelevant (other than that I think it probably did happen in some fashion that was terrifying for Kim and K Klan). For a long time, over almost 20 years), Denise and Rinna are in or were in a circle of women friends that included Kris Jenner at some point, so they know her know her; I’m sure she shared the horrors and the story of it going down exactly as the magazines said based on pictures of the burglars knowing she had significant large $$$ in jewelry in that ring alone, or tell a tale worse including how devastating it was for all. After hearing that from a friend, I would leave my very large diamond engagement at home in a safe too. She may have just left it in the hotel safe for wandering the streets shopping at tourist areas or she might have left it home period. Or it may be a sign... however, she seems more like the I will leave expensive stuff at home type over the I am going to drop subtle cues on camera and tabloids signaling that there are subtle shade meanings (ahem... cough... Rinna) in everything-I-do-type. However, they all have been surprising me lately...

Lol! Me too! 🎶 “No, I don't want your number No, I don't want to give you mine and No, I don't want to meet you nowhere (said no) No, I don't want none of your time... 🎶 No, no, no, no.”

I agree. I think Teddi resents being labeled boring because she is boring. She acts like eating healthy and exercising to maintain a healthy weight is the biggest ideal in life to achieve. Most people manage to do that and accomplish other things and have other things in life to discuss. It is like that is ALL Teddi can manage to do and needs to keep working out or she will have a complete anxiety attack and she wants praise for this. Do we all need praise because we brush and floss our teeth? It’s basic health maintenance. Sutton came off rude saying that she thought Teddi would be boring... but riiiight?!! I mean I would cringe being seated next to her at dinner too and hearing her defensive sighs that she will make a giant case about every alleged intonation in your voice meaning something bad about someone in the group and then finding a way to publicly “come clean” and tell you what she heard. It’s like maintaining her weight and learning how to defend herself and acting like she doesn’t care if you don’t like her is all she can do when we all learned these skills in health class in middle school. It seems like her emotional growth got stunted at that point and that is how she functions as an adult and wants praise for this adolescent behavior. Kyle identifies with her because she recognizes this energy as the kind that is familiar in her family. The goal to be popular and liked and dress well seems like that of a 13 year old and would even be shallow then. Maybe I am over the whole “influencer lifestyle” where people make videos about what they eat and make money by gaining “followers.” LVP had snarky wit and could throw shade, yet at least LVP has multiple businesses and several animal charities and manages to volunteer serving food at a homeless shelter every Monday. Teddi works out and talks about people to Kyle. She has a podcast too. I mean Brandi does all those things too. Yet, with no accomplishments or education or much of any interests or hobbies or anything useful to contribute to conversation except crying that she doesn’t know good fashion, Teddi is the moral authority on who said what and if their tone intended something else?!! It’s juvenile... and it’s exhausting to watch. Teddi has sucked the life and fun out of this show for me watching her co-stars run rings around protecting her feelings because she is relentlessly needy AF, sensitive, paranoid, and child like in her approach to control EVERYONE because of her childhood. It’s like a dictator focused on all the wrong things and wants praise for being on time... but where are we going? To me, Teddi is a total killjoy. She killed the trip to Rome because she can’t make dinner conversation and control her anxiety because she heard that Denise slept with Brandi and maybe had sex without telling Aaron and she heard that Denise also said that Teddi sucks and is insecure and Erika is cold. Seriously??? Read a book, get a job, ask Sutton a question about her life or pretend to be interested in something other than you for 10 seconds, Teddi! It’s called being a grown up.

I 1000% agree that Rinna is seething with jealousy and hatred for Denise because of the money and contract that Denise got. Rinna has to parade her daughter’s obsessive compulsive disorders and neuroses on camera for money and she is angry that Denise can breeze in and out with a 4-year multi-million dollar deal. Denise’s attempt to protect her kids or look like she is protecting her kids is actually fueling Rinna’s anger more and making her hate her more and want to prove that she is no Saint Denise. As Erika would say, “that’s YOUR friend...”, Denise.

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And she uses the money to try to buy outfits and glam that make her acceptable so that she can live her life in Beverly Hills as a thin person accepted in the group. She is so desperate for acceptance, it is truly painful to watch. That’s why the comments hurt her so much. She is boring and needy to be relevant. If she wasn’t, she would laugh hearing someone say that. Instead she cries because she feels it is true. Her response to a minor criticism that everyone is saying anyway (not like it is a secret— read these boards) is to plot to blow up people’s lives who have done nothing to her, see Dorit, LVP and Denise. Like ruin your life level blow up and trash your reputation and business and marriage on TV because she has to be honest that she was (again) manipulated.

If you miss posting pictures of one meal by more than an hour, you are kicked out- no refund. No chance to explain. Canceled access. So if you get in a car accident and miss your lunch— bye. They don’t care why and say that makes the program stronger. ALL IN— no excuses. Paying $1000 for 10 days to post a picture of your meals to be approved or you are kicked out is insane. Because Teddi is insane and has to live this way to make herself not fall to pieces. The sad part is that people think the military style Bootcamp is what they need to be like Teddi and can’t wait to sign up to be accountable every day. I can’t stand Teddi. Not that it is relevant to the program, it just needed saying.

What became clearer to me on re-watch is that Kim hates Denise because she said Denise attacked her out of nowhere at Kyle’s Farrahween party. Denise kind of joined the fight out of nowhere when she didn’t need to because she saw an opportunity to defend Rinna or at least tell Kim to not be nasty to Rinna (even though Rinna fully started it with her “Kim, I think it was C*nty of you to blah blah blah” in her Erika Jayne persona). Kim was so stunned and embarrassed and started attacking back with not much sense at Rinna and Denise jumped in to defend Rinna because she was her friend. Kim said something and Denise said, “don’t say that to her” and “why do you care?” Kim said, “I don’t care” and Denise said “great, then drop it!” and Kim is still mad about that because she looked dumb. Kim was getting far too much pleasure bringing that story (see that narcissistic smug smile when Brandi drops the “Aaron will kill me!” line and she claps and points her finger at Kyle, like we got her, I told youuuu!!) along with Brandi to Kyle who conveniently had Teddi there to hear it. Kim and Kyle discusses the bring Brandi in from the car thing ahead of time. They are not that good actors. Kim can’t handle a narcissistic injury. Her borderline personality tendencies make her slip in to not rational thinking when she becomes emotionally dysregulated and the worst thing for Kim is to be “out-ed” and embarrassed. She has been out to bring Denise down so that as soon as Kyle turned on Denise and was telling Kim how Denise was difficult and upset and making them look like bad moms, Kim said I know what to do and was ready with Brandi’s story and I think that is when THAT set-up was on. It is how Kim functions and likely a function of her trauma from the abuse in her family. She wants revenge and to make the other person look bad. Someone like Kim takes EVERYTHING personally and will make you suffer forever if you ever embarrass her. Also, did they film that bedroom scene AFTER they came home from Italy and pretended it was before? Kyle has Fendi printed boots in her suitcase and Teddi looked like she was wearing something Fendi, as did Kyle. There was a lot of random Fendi around the floor in that room as if they had gone shopping there. I can’t see Kyle bringing that stuff to Italy. Bringing it home... definitely. That room was suspiciously post-Rome looking. Anddd... As if Kyle would borrow clothes from Kim to go on a trip to Rome with Dorit, Erika, Sutton, Garcelle, etc!! Kyle spends MONEY on clothes and either wears tacky stuff to promote her “clothing line” this season or tries to keep up by bringing it with her outfits too. That dress Kim brought that Kyle said “maybe” was all fake. No way Kyle would wear that Kim-style shiz in Rome. It wouldn’t even fit her. That whole scene was staged BS and Teddi at least knew part of that, the timing and people, even if she didn’t know exactly what was going to be said. At minimum, Kyle and Kim are mean girls that revert to pre-adolescent tactics and have not changed since Kim went nuts on Brandi at game night season 2 and Kyle joined in and they are both using Brandi when they need an alliance and she is useful, suddenly she has virtues like honesty. Please. In retrospect, I also think Kyle constantly labeled LVP the chess mastermind and playing games to manipulate because that is how Kyle operates at base level and her whole family does, so she assumed LVP was constantly doing the same. I think sometimes LVP didn’t want to be close to people she didn’t feel total trust with, and she gave subtle shade not to be totally fake and others would get mad that LVP wasn’t being nice enough or close enough and Kyle is the type that will sit in your lap. When they brain stormed off camera and LVP would say I’m not getting close to her, you say it! Kyle took that as the kind of manipulation that is familiar to her from her sisters and her mom. I understand this about LVP, I have enough close friends that I trust, I don’t need to let in new people that I don’t trust fully yet; however, I will be friendly because we are new friends— but not friendly like Kyle who acts super friendly. It doesn’t mean you are fake— you are socially friendly— it is different. These ladies accept that about Erika, but can’t comprehend it with LVP or Denise. It’s Hollywood! Small town! Be polite and friendly, but don’t jump in their lap like immediate BFFs. Kyle is so used to plotting off camera with Kim and LVP and now she does it with Teddi.

Wow! Eagle eyes spotting Sylvester Stallone and that IS Patrick Swayze in the blue shirt and white suspenders! So cool! The dancing really is incredible in this film. The fitness level and dancing of John Travolta and all the dancers is awe inspiring! 🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻 The talent, drive and discipline never fails to amaze me when I watch clips of dancers... just wow. They are giving it ALLLL... blood, sweat, tears... everything they have to the point of collapse. Thanks for this clip!

I thought the same when I heard her say that.

Same! I saw her telling the waiter about it and then saying it is a serious real allergy to garlic was because she must be really allergic to it and not just doing a cleanse or not eating gluten or “allergic to wheat” on weekdays. She seemed slightly embarrassed and seemed to be saying with her expression,” I’m not trying to be annoying and ask for it really plain in your fine dining establishment, I am truly highly allergic to garlic.” She did it quietly and didn’t draw attention to it and I took it as a more seriously thing than I’m an actress with a weird Hollywood diet regimen when she said that as opposed to Teddi’s “I never eat a carb with dinner” thing that has exceptions for pasta in a cheese wheel. It also finally made sense why she ordered mashed potatoes with nothing including no pepper as her entree when she ate out with Aaron. She probably has to be careful about hidden garlic in butter and even salads. Her strange ordering finally makes sense to me!

This was 100% my read on Santa Barbara too. Denise was unsure of their motives, I saw the micro-expressions on Denise’s face too (trained in it) and she decided it was ok to try to answer honestly and after the follow up questions she realized this was a set up. It was like you could see the thoughts across her forehead as she had them. I wasn’t sure if her extinct was accurate or she is paranoid given... Hollywood friendships, cut throat friends, crazy ex’s or if she was right; however, she did have a micro expression of “I get it now, you are being phoney innocent asking me these questions and you are really a threat. I get it now and I’m done discussing this or my kids.” The ladies didn’t like her swift change and tried to counter the next few encounters with “we don’t want you to be upset” and Denise is now game-face, “I’m not upset (smile— I want to be nice, yet distant, because now I know who you are).” The defensiveness was not appreciated by these women who view their motherhood as one of their biggest life missions and it just swarmed from there. Denise changed in Santa Barbara and has been what others are referring to as fake or guarded or sticking to the surface level and “I will come and support and make nice and do my job and I am fine.” If I was having Denise’s internal thoughts (evidenced by the micro-expressions) that these women are a threat and out to make her look bad by asking her questions, I would handle it as she attempted to also by being light and breezy. That is how to deal with catty people who you realize you want to steer clear with wide birth. The ladies noticed the change and distancing and felt they were caught being “judgey” and kept trying to loop back to get Denise to say it wasn’t their fault and she was not going there as she already said her piece and they started to resent her distant superficial polite persona, instead of the Denise they first encountered who was not guarded because she didn’t feel threatened then. It changed when she pulled back in Santa Barbara. She was slow on the uptake, but got their number there which is why she told Aaron it was not a fun girls trip. She saw the truth that the women were not making conversation to get to know more about her career and life experience— there was an agenda. Her face changed as she turned to a dead on confrontational face and said “I’m not doing this” when realizing she was in a pit of vipers pretending to be friends. The ladies didn’t like this shift to confrontation as they would prefer to pull strings to get the reactions and verbal footage they wanted when Denise’s guard was down. Rinna especially can’t stand this. Rinna hates when she feels anyone is not pulling their weight and showing up for filming (Yolanda, Kim, LVP) ANY HW event. Rinna feels she must film with her family to be interesting. She exposes her Harry’s alcoholic family, her sister’s OD, the daughters’ severe anxiety issues, and Amelia’s anorexia and talks about everyone ELSE’s food and drug issues. She feels she has to go to them all and have conversations being “honest” about the problems of those in her family and her great concern as wide and mother. It’s like she resents that she has to bare her family problems and children’s problems for TV and others can breeze in and out because of “physical/mental health issues, death in the family, working/traveling” and some others may be excused and they still get full HW clout, status, fame and power without sharing “hard stuff.” She has no idea WTF she is talking about or gratitude that she does not have these things in her life, she just gets mad that she is working harder than others and she does everything she can to draw attention to that person being inauthentic and hiding things. Rinna has not gone after Erika for this because she is scared of her, but everyone else... she does this if she senses they are not filming enough or as hard as she is being exposed. Denise realized it and changed like a switch and didn’t want to give them answers besides co-worker answers about why the kids weren’t there and each event after. She naively thinks that they will be like normal people who at next party you start talking and it’s not discussed again and they don’t do this on this show. The “I’m not giving attention to that energy” won’t work with Rinna because she is mad that she sells out her family for fame and gets mad when the others don’t or can’t be open in produced scenes about their personal issues or their kids’ serious health issues because SHE (felt she) HAD TO. Rinna has to be a bitch, bad friend, bad mom for money so she then then she wants others to be too or at least to show up for everything and film and not try to keep anything private because she doesn’t (except she DOES keep things vaulted as evidenced by her becoming apoplectic at Kim mentioning that Rinna doesn’t want info out about her husband). Erika seems to resent Aaron being around at events as she thinks he is beneath her and therefore should not speak to her other than hello and Rinna feels Denise is different now with Aaron. I think Denise is different with Rinna and all of them once she realized what was happening and that’s when she got actually angry, didn’t have words and would try to leave. She saw who they were and it was no longer friendship, just make nice with work relationships and get out of there.

It is midnight. I’m starving. I want your mom’s nacho lasagna 🤤

From the Bonus Scene* Awww, of course Kiko is a Libra!! ♎️💖 Charming, delicious and lovely to be around sprinkled with some indecisiveness and a poor sense of time! 😂

This is awesome! Thanks for posting this!

😂😂💀 KDead

This. Is. Perfect. I didn’t even watch the episode and I feel nauseous. Happy Birthday!! 🥳

HA!! Kim and Kylie are queens of the come up!! THAT’s why they don’t like it 😒

I don’t know what anyone did and why they are not there either. Please fill us in!

Some were asking if Wilson Phillips even perform together anymore or just do guest appearances. I randomly woke up at 4 am one night with Bravo still on and caught Kelly Clarkson’s talk show and Wilson Phillips was on as the musical performance guest. They sang with real voices and sounded incredible. They said that they each have lives focused outside of the musical group, but still perform together for one show each month at some music venue.

Kaycee and Josh are together in LA quarantining for the Big Brother All Stars season that is supposed to start filming soon. They brought a lot of former guests out who have to quarantine and get tested a bunch and maybe they are living together instead of hotels or they got Kaycee and Josh to be together with handlers for the day. I took that as a sign that perhaps this Big Brother thing really is happening when I saw them together because I read a TMZ article that they were two of a long list of people (including Bayleigh and *eta: Paulie) that are out there for that purpose. Have no idea what is true.

Captain Lee mentioned several times with different chefs that the budget was unlimited when he could not understand why their wasn’t enough. He never accepted that answer. He would say plan better and order more— “you have an unlimited budget!” It seems they do, as they will call in provision orders to try to get anything brought out by boat that a guest wants that they don’t have onboard. ETA: esco1822 clarifies the process below! There is indeed a provisions budget and a charge for items once that budget is exceeded that is added on to the charter bill.

To clarify, I felt Darcy looked cartoonish and overdone the whole season with lips, Botox, fillers, her boobs on display and the thigh high boots and sky high heels. It was all waaaaay too much and looked desperate. At the quarantine style zoom reunion, she appeared to have skimmed down quite a bit and did not look so incredibly bizarre, so in relative terms, of all the times I have seen Darcy, that was the best she ever looked. In contrast, Tom looked awful compared to when we last saw him on the show and appeared to have put on weight and his man bun looked greasy and his overall appearance was sloppy. I don’t normally comment on anyone’s weight, however Tom opened that door with his insult to Darcy when they met for coffee; so I was pleased for her to see her look (relatively) refreshed (I mean it IS still Darcy!) and more natural and for Tom to get his just desserts with his weight gain on display after he was cruel and smug to her only months before that. I originally couldn’t stand Darcy and mostly still can’t until that coffee meeting with Tom kinda broke my heart for her with how cruel he was to her. So now I can’t help but root for her to find her inner strength to love and care for herself first and then ultimately find an appropriate man.

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