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Haven't watched yet, but Devan's whole season felt like an audition for other reality shows -- not necessarily The Bachelor. This confict THE DAY BEFORE engaement of not knowing which one, just gross and come on. And she could have the most feelings for one particular person but if he hasn't said it yet, he's not the one. They all play that game. Even the contestants are onto that game and know they have to say it to stick around than for any other reason. By the time all is said and done, they've had what, two/three one-on-one dates and, of course, they are "dream" dates not going to be had in real life. I'd be suspect if anyone did say it that fast. And for the love for all that is holy, can we PLEASE get rid of the dinner table dates, the contestants all lined up on balcony/bridge/mountainside yelling *bachelor name here* and bachelor handshake if at all possible. And Jesse, I love you, man, but you don't really need to tell us it's the final rose tonight. We get how it works.

AAron reminds me of if Troy Aikman and Harry Connick, Jr. had a baby. I wonder if he's still closeted. They are going to be hard-pressed to pick the next Bachelor out of this group.

I just wish they'd finally kill the dinner dates. They don't eat the food anyway, it's just table conversation. I'm sure they could have equally "stimulating" conversation (about what their lives would look like) in just about any setting. And I'm not missing all the hot tub dates either.

Well, somebody used the phrase "Joey and I's." Every freaking season.

I successfully weaned myself off of every iteration of this show this past season. I'm so proud. I'm pretty sure the next installment will be 90 Days Every Which Way. But having seen the commercials, I had to check in here to see what people thought. Now I'm even gladder I'm no longer involved. Shouldn't somebody like Chantel take a few minutes and just chill after such an epic failure? Why would anybody just want to jump back in so quickly? Most of them, for that matter, should just have a seat.

Yes, they are sworn in for depositions. I am a court reporter and I swear every witness before they say a word at deposition. And they are advised that deposition testimony is the same as if they were in front of a judge and jury. If at any time their testimony differs once they get to trial, that testimony can be used to impeach them. I realize that they've "proven" she is young. But six just really seems extremely young. There was a home video that Kristine took of Natalia reading the Bible out loud and she was very articulate when reading aloud. No six-year-old had reading skills that badass. And she was supposedly 9 when they dumped her in that first apartment? She was successful at living alone whereas I wouldn't think a 9-year-old would even make it through a night or two without completely wigging.

Well, from my perspective, I could not just go by what the dentist said as I still had six baby teeth in my mouth at age 18. They just never came out -- and I had one start growing in the roof of my mouth. I guess I never kept track of which ones I had or had not lost. Hence, braces from 18 to 21.

I saw that follow up. That girl was named Caralee but she now goes by Sabrina Caldwell. She is now a married woman with her own children. She seems a lovely woman.

No love for the dog on the beach? He's my favorite. I'd have a playdate every day with that cutie. And I'd gift him with one of Kat's shoes. Olivia has annoyed me since Day 1. Was actually surprised to hear she 's smart enough to school for PA because she comes of not terribly bright, to me.

I would think a Catholic boy from Texas would just as soon raise his children in the same faith that he shares with his wife. I highly doubt Ariel would give up her faith and I can't see Zach converting to Judaism. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Trying to raise them in one or the other or in both faiths just always makes it seem incomplete. I wonder if anything like that occurred to him at any time earlier as it seems it would have been kinder to let Ariel go earlier if he realized that was a nonstarter.

Just to tag on to your calling out the morons, EVERY SINGLE SEASON at least one idiot actually says "Zach and I's relationship." I heard it no less than three times this season. I do believe at least once from Zach. I am glad to hear him calling himself out for "like." Sadly, I doubt any of the 'ettes saw it in themselves enough to become annoyed by it.

Sean once stated in an interview that those dinners are just props. They apparently just get room service and eat before they go on dates.

WHY are we still subjected to these dinner table mind-numbingly boring go-nowhere conversations? The dinner plates are nothing but props they don't eat anyway. If you must have them sitting at a table, just drinks are fine. And for God's sake, have actual real CONVERSATONS for once.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11753949/ABC-considering-bringing-Chris-Harrison-save-Bachelor-two-years-racism-scandal.html#comments

Does Christina remind anybody else of Christine Taylor, Ben Stiller's wife?