jenrising

Someone less charitable might note that finally Liam is working with his intellectual equals and it's doing wonders for him.

Don't worry I'm sure she'll ride back into town (possibly strapped) when it all comes to make this whole mess the fault of the evil Logans. After all, if Brooke wasn't such a man-stealing monster Taylor and tots would have perfect lives.

The two things are not mutually exclusive. Just because Steffy didn't succeed in wooing Liam away doesn't mean she didn't try. Liam and Hope's inability to make their relationship work doesn't make her gross attempts to take advantage of their pain acceptable.

She certainly tried to. While Liam and Hope were brokenhearted about losing their daughter she told him he would be Phoebe's father too. It's the same playbook she used when she started chasing Liam. Contrasting herself to Hope. Back then it was how "fun" and willing to have sex she was. This time it was how "happy" she was with a readymade family of living children for him to enjoy. What happened isn't Steffy's fault but she absolutely tried to use it to her advantage.

She really did. First went on and on about how she had so much money she didn't know what to do with it and then whined and whined that the evil Logans took everything from her boohoo and Kelly would've had a sister if the evil Logans hadn't been so mean and judgmental about her shooting a man in the back. So of course Wayne Shady is responsible for what he did, but it wouldn't have happened if he didn't know a rich woman with a grudge against the Logans wasn't ready and willing to pay top dollar for a baby and not ask a lot of questions.

Yes, let's not forget the history there. She threatened to buy a baby first because Hope didn't want her child around Taylor Quickdraw Hayes and Steffy was determined that Kelly should have a pet sister.

I'd love it if Phoebeth and Douglas are the ones who stop this madness once and for all.

I think the timeline is a little hinky because if they graduated in 2006 (at the end of the second season) the reunion should have been in 2016 (not 2014 when the movie actually came out).

This is exactly it. This Ridge only cares about Steffy so he was happy to call Bill a predator for sleeping with poor vulnerable Steffy because she was sad after, but doesn't even think about his son's creepy behavior if it has even the slightest chance of being a benefit to her. Nothing else matters.

That is so foul. Why? Why?

Also not watching but thanks for these.

Hope: nothing in her entire (often self-righteous, stupid, immature) life comes even remotely close. Steffy: I guess an argument could be made that Cousin Killer is in the ballpark. But killing Aly was self-defense and she never actually succeeded in killing Ivy. Maaaaybe her clear intention to pass what she thought might be Bill's baby off as Liam's but that didn't happen (as far as we know). So no. For all her despicable behavior, she's never done anything as bad as Flo.

Yeah. Flo's been a scammer and a liar from the beginning. A party to human trafficking. And she has spent months helping to continue traumatizing people who have been nothing but kind to her in order to save her own jumpsuited ass. Nothing Steffy and Hope have done in this situation even comes close.

SC now should have told SC when they were shooting these episodes that. Because Liam is expressing no interest in Steffy and still looking at Hope like his beloved wife.

Yes. She'll sing an original song, "Beth is alive and so am I!"

Maybe Emma will play dead and then come twirling back in to tell everyone what Thomas did.

Yep.

I think it's Emma. Especially because of the spoiler about Pam and Brook. Pam's the one who knows Thomas was with Emma.

I'm still holding out hope that the combination of a partially open door and hero of the people Loading Dock Guy will blow this thing wide open.

Probably buried with whoever was investigating that guy Quinn murdered to get her hands on it.

So half of LA will know the secret and not tell. Terrible Tom will get a new way to victimize his latest target. Liam will move in and get to raise both of his daughters (unknowingly) and poor sweet sad Flo won't lose the awesome new life that's been handed to her. Fantastic! Everybody wins. Hope who?

The actor who plays Xander grew up in the UK (his accent slipped a lot today). The actress who plays Zoe is from Utah so her Zoe accent was fake. I don't think it's an acting choice that they both go into a half-who-the-hell-knows-what accent sometimes, I think it's just force of habit from the past and a lack of retakes for their scenes.

Please, no. Jane's already going to writer 100 articles as if she's the first person to ever be cheated on. If it was with a dude those will multiply exponentially.

Yes and I can't wait to see everyone's really great reasons why they don't need to tell them. Though it will be hard to beat the current "what's done is done, Beth is safe and loved and Hope hasn't actually tried to kill herself YET so why rock the boat!" theory.