aphroditewitch

Depression doesn't excuse a person from being held accountable for the choices they made while depressed. At the end of the day, Will still chose to do the show, chose to be a passive-aggressive dick towards Jasmine, and continued to try and play with her emotions after filming wrapped with his whole "maybe we can date after the divorce " garbage. His post on Instagram was a discreet attack.

I saw on Reddit that Luke confirmed that he is working with a pr firm, so he is absolutely hoping to get more money out of this. It would be interesting that after all the speculation that Luke had a girlfriend or boyfriend waiting in the wings off camera, that it actually might be Will who was the one. It certainly would explain a lot of Will's behavior.

They all need to leave each other alone. I don't think any of them come out of this looking good.

I just saw that. I think they will end up divorced too.

I honestly think that Dr. Jessica and Jon started hooking up during season 6. Which is at least partially supported by the unprofessional way that Dr. Jessica went after Molly. Most of the shows were filmed before Jessica and Jon became so public on social media. Happily Ever After? was filmed at least in part after season 7 wrapped because of the pregnancies. But Danielle and Bobby might have started filming after the other two couples started to film. Even before Jon and Jessica officially became public, people knew they were together. And there were questions at that time of whether it was ethical and appropriate.

This is inaccurate. There are men who have attacked or murdered women who outright rejected them.There are enough cases that I would spend forever listing them. There is a famous quote from writer Margaret Atwood “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.” While I'm sure we could find some cases of women doing the same to men it is rare. At the end of the day there is no reason for Will to be dishonest. He just didn't want to tell the truth. I think he liked the possibility of keeping Jasmine holding on to hope and she just wasn't having it. It is also why Luke's claims about Kate don't ring true.

Dr. Jessica said that on decision day. Which made very little sense because Kate did reach out to her earlier. When Kate reached out to her earlier in the season, Dr. Jessica claimed they would support Kate if she wanted a divorce but then she told Kate to speak to Luke. If they had actually wanted to make a show of pretending to care, an expert would have been there when she spoke to him.

I guess Luke found a new beard. I wonder how long it will take for her to get tired of his crap.

Dr. Jessica chose to be with Jon. That means she gets all the criticism that goes with that decision. She managed to be the worst of the three "experts" which is saying something. So the idea that she left due to shenanigans just doesn't ring true. I think she played herself by being so public about her relationship with Jon and that cost her the job. She was perfectly happy going along with the nonsense as long a she was being paid.

Will sounds pretty bitter too. His post took several digs at Jasmine. It confirmed my opinion that Will is a shitty person who uses being socially awkward as an excuse.

I don't believe it. Jon was way too salty for it to have been her decision. Sounds like she is trying to save face.

But that isn't what she said at all. She said, multiple times that they were in bed cuddling, when she asked about it, asked being a keyword, and she maintained that version of events. Luke told Dr. Pepper one thing and then told a completely different story at the reunion.

Except neither one described that as happening. And Kate's version of what happened remained consistent the entire season. Meanwhile Luke had several different versions.

But that doesn't apply to Luke at all. He knew he was hurting her. He blew off the 1 month anniversary filming which was meant to be hurtful and disrespectful. he knew he was supposed to be there because they have set filming times. He was telling production behind her back that she had a drinking problem but then couldn't come up with examples when pressed by Dr. Pepper. He would tell her to her face that he didn't like her, which she called him on when he lied about it. There was the way he berated her in the car following the mini moon. Those are intentionally hurtful things. And the pushing for sex thing, sounds overblown by Luke. Kate seemed to have a reasonable expectation for a healthy sex life and his issues with sex made him want to shame her for it and he decided to characterize her as a crazy nympho. . And she even said that when they met with Dr. Pepper that when they talked about it she had said she didn't realize her felt pressured and apologized.

That is now how abuse works. Also, she didn't call him gay. It sounds like he was the one who first brought it up.

Did she though? Because it sounds like that may have stopped by the time she spoke to Dr. Pepper about it. And couples who split or divorce sleep with each other all the time, even in the real world. The Kate we saw at the reunion was very different, someone who recognized how bad the relationship had been. Someone who may have gone into therapy to deal with what happened. Which was why she refused to let Luke control the narrative.

Various sources have come forward stating that she asked for a divorce earlier. And that tracks with what we saw on the show with her speaking about it with the useless Dr. Jessica. There is also the fact that their editing was all over the place and suggests that they really didn't live together much.

There are a lot of questions. Since she is alleged to have tried to end things earlier, only for the show to apply significant pressure on her to stay, staying is not all on her. It is really gross that show has done this multiple times. The show has continued to put participants in potentially dangerous situations with their casting choices. Eventually something worse than what we have seen will happen. It almost did during season 2 with Jessica and Ryan.

What happened between Kate and Luke was absolutely emotional abuse. Abuse is complicated and months after the fact, so many people who have the benefit of hindsight deciding what Kate should have done differently is not helpful to anyone.

If he had 1 year left several years ago, then he would now almost definitely have to redo any nursing courses he might have taken. I can't see any nursing school accepting anything other than prereqs that were so old. I question whether nursing would be good fit for him anyway. If he is determined to be in health care, physical therapy or occupational therapy might be a better fit.

Luke knew what he was doing, otherwise the worst of it would not have happened off camera. A.J owns his company, so he sets his hours. And since he apparently works from his home office the majority of the time, he probably can go out of town for a vacation, but then work a day or so as long as he has an internet connection. I don't remember what Stephanie does but she might be the same where she can do something similar. And if Stephanie has a job where she does international travel at all for work, it might just be that she is adding on some vacation days to those work trips and A.J goes along, working from the hotel room while she is in meetings.

For the same reasons that a lot of abuse survivors continue to see their abuser. Halloween was right after decision day. So it doesn't seem like it was a recurring thing. And after having to relive everything, I doubt either one will speak to the other again.

It was a bachelorette party, people tend to party during them. I guess she could have acted super awkward and judgmental about everyone else having a good time, but Luke already did that so Beyond that there has been nothing other than what Luke claimed. And if the show had her drunk, passed out, refusing to let them in a room where she is drinking on camera, they would have showed it.

It sounds like they might have hung out once and it doesn't even sound like they really hung out.

Not surprising, since the Reunion was filmed in January or February. That guy was always going to be more of a rebound.