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I'm so sorry for your loss. Pls accept my condolences.

This so much.

+1000 to the Whole post. My feelings exactly. Thanks Gonzogirl.

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And the difference with what we have now is so flagrant and painful. Happy Halloween ?

You Totally nailed. Bingo.

ITA. Thank you.

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You're right. For a moment I forgot about that. And right again. Dabb certainly likes the teasing game.

Might not have anything to do with Azazel. Though he was a big part of the episode, what really happened back then was the first disruption of the natural order in the show (if I don't remember wrong). Dean should have died in that car accident. John brought him back. Maybe now we're getting the full circle, the restoration of the natural order with Dean's death.

It's not a question of working or not for me. It's an speculation as good as any. Bringing Michael back to fight AU Michael could work. I just don't see the time frame, but they can make up whatever reason they want for it. What I didn't see was the reason for Dean dying. Not a problem with that either. He'd be back in minutes too. I just don't see the point of killling him to bring him back so he can be Michael's vessel. Again too many things crammed in 42 min. but, once more, nothing new there either. In fact I've never been against the idea of a possible Dean Michael. But there are so many loose ends that the closer we get to the end, the less clear I've got how they'll wrap it all in just one episode. That's all. Thanks for taking the time to explain your theory.

Not that I'm against it. But why would she need to do that? They both have been resurrected before without that kind of bizarre manoeuvre? using the dying body to resurrect someone through possession by and archangel? Isn't that a little too twisted? If Billie needs Dean alive because he's supposed to be key in whatever is needed to save the world, just resurrect the guy. It wouldn't be a first in this show for sure. The only logical explenation for that would be IMO that the real one needed is Michael, and in that case why killing Dean in the first place? We're missing something here.

That was really sweet from both of them and I think that Jared was deeply moved by Jensen's answer. Nice friendship.

To be honest when I watched it I thought about that theory. It was what it seemed to imply. It also fits their twisted way of thinking. But like Aeryn said it would be the end of Dean as a character. It's more likely that they'll pull something out the blue and get the old good Michael back in the saddle. It could work to send him back to heaven to fix it too and someway get Dean back in a few episodes next season. Lucifer in the cage, Michael ruling Heaven and both brothers still together to keep fighting. All back to business as usual.

More than a theory was a bad thought born out of my lack of trust in Dabb. It's just where the promo seemed to lead, so probably wrong anyway. In this show the explanation about the clothes could be anything. As for the angels flying I found that scene really stupid, but now Jensen comments about it being physically challenging make total sense. It reminded me of season 10. When he was asked for an spoiler for the finale and his answer was that "it'd be an eye opener". It certainly was. Lol. Typical Jensen.

I didn't remember the part of the character we haven't seen in years. You're totally right. I agree with you. It would be a awful move. And I also agree that it'd ruin the character. And I'd hate it. Just what I thought after watching the promo. I hope they don't do it. It's just that as you can see I don't trust Dabb, and still don't see how they're going to wrap all in just one episode. Don't get me wrong, It's not what I want. It's what the promo led to me think, of course we all know how misleading they can be.

Not a clue to be honest. I don't see a way to reconcile that image with any of the possible outcomes for the finale. How we go from the Dean we know to a character dressing in last century mid 20s outfit is beyond me. I just thought after watching the preview that they could go that route. I don't like it, but it would make more sense at this moment, than trying to bring back the original Michael in a 30 seconds scene out of the blue. Not arguing that everybody is expecting that or that it'd be a "very Winchesters" like. What I think is that in a 42 min episode there's no time for all of that. Too rushed.

I'm gonna throw a crazy idea out there. What if they give us what we want but not the way we want it? Remember that? With AU Micahel and Lucifer both in our world odds are a new apocalypse is coming (we all agree on that), and back we're to the starting point, a fight between them. In the preview we see two things. AU Michael with bleeding eyes and saying this is the end. But we also see Lucifer attacking Sam (and hard) and Michael choking Dean (and to top it all off Dean says "eat me"). And finally we see Dean "flying" in a fight with Lucifer. Now the theory of Michael Dean is well and dandy, but what if the combination would not be Michael Dean but ALT Michael Dean? Bear with me for a minute. Dean sees Lucifer about to kill Sam, steps up and accepts being ALT Michael vessel to be able to kill Lucifer and save Sam. I don't like it, but it'd fit everything. Dean has already seen his brother die a few hours/days before. He's facing again that same scene of his nightmares : Lucifer killing Sam. There's no time for plans, it's now or Sam dies. ALT Michael is the only one with a chance of killing Lucifer (Jack already refused) and apparently is there and at least his vessel is damaged (bleeding eyes?). Dean steps up and sacrifices himself once more and accepts or even propose being ALT Michael vessel. After all he's still the OTV and that way he can finally confront Lucifer, fight him and at least try to kill him. I hate to say if but it all fits. They give us what everybody has been asking for (according to them bitching), Dean steps up to the ocassion (in the clip we even listen to Dean saying we're gonna make mistakes), open a new line of plots for next season (Sam trying to save Dean again) . Final unexpected twist (how cool we are. Pat pat) Rinse and repeat and all that on the nose (you see? we didn't want for this to happen back in S05. Stop bitching. We know better). I know it's a crazy idea. But after watching the promo for next week, that's what I thought? What do you guys think, could it be a possibility?

That could be a nice story.

LOL Jensen is a uncorrectable teaser. He loves his double entendre. Any pun(ch) is good enough for him;)

How disheartening and accurate at the same time :(

I think that was the grunting and groaning he was doing when he was hurt in the AU in the woods and was thrown to the ground and was being held face down and about to be hands tied.

You know, not a lot of people are open to discussion nowaday. So again thanks for making it possible in a civil way and not exploding everytine someone differs from your viewpoints. No much time now, but I'll get back to you about your post. Seeing a few different things now ;)