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I totally agree with your entire post, and mostly what I've bolded here. I am totally NOT defending Mary, but I think that what she did with Angie is what she has learned in her life. After hearing about her parents, it's possible that this is how she was raised, and has yet to figure out that this behavior is not really acceptable or appropriate. Mary seems to have a lot of personal issues, maybe because of the way she was raised and maybe because she has never really grown up and matured, given that she married her step-grandfather at a seemingly young age, so was probably babied throughout her marriage, as well. She obviously has been spoiled quite a bit by her grandfather/husband and could be used to using this withdrawal of love/respect/friendship to get what she wants out of a relationship. It could be because that was how her mother treated her and her siblings, or it could be a learned behavior when being married to such an older man. Either way, it's not a mature or grown up way to deal with friendship issues. Mary also seems very used to being the "queen" - whether at home, or at her now defunct church, or anywhere else - she is used to people bowing down to her and doesn't understand or accept when people don't do that. Mary is complex and a little cuckoo-doodle - she claims to be spiritual and religious, but she doesn't seem to know how to forgive without punishment first. It was obvious in that exchange with Angie - Angie needed to be punished enough and prove to Mary that she was "worthy" of Mary's friendship. She also can be downright mean. Well, that's just my thoughts on that. I will say, though, that Mary does seem to love her son unconditionally and seeing what has happened with Robert, Jr. (although I don't think any of that should have been filmed for TV) made me think that she's not a completely selfish, spoiled brat.

Well....Erika just said that she wanted a pizza party - she didn't say she wanted it to be in an upscale place like Spago or something - so, she kind of got what she was asking for. 🤣🤣 I don't think Erika needs any additional props to her ego to make her feel special - I think she's very confident in how "special" she is, and if not, she gets a boost from Mikey and her other sycophants glam team members. I think taking Erika to Chuck E Cheese was supposed to be a fun outing that was also kind of a joke, and perhaps, even a little dig at Erika by Sutton and the other girls for being so petty over something so trivial as a production planned get together for the purpose of filming "pizza party" at Kyle's. Erika's situation is/was completely different from Kyle's, and during the first year or so of Erika's separation from Tom, she was a complete bitch to pretty much everyone, verbally threatened other cast members (Sutton), acted off the rails, mixed drugs and alcohol one too many times, and lashed out at anyone who even mentioned anything about her personal life or the lawsuits following her separation. As far as I'm concerned, she's lucky she got a pizza party at Chuck E Cheese - she doesn't even deserve that. ETA: I actually enjoyed seeing these women participate in and seemingly have genuine fun at someplace that is so normal in most people's lives. Yes, CC is probably the LAST place I would want to go, but I've been there countless times with my own kids and birthday parties, etc. Seeing these ladies laughing and having fun over mindless arcade games and sharing non-alcoholic drinks and bad pizza was something that was very different from the norm. And, I know Sutton said that Dorit wasn't invited for obvious reasons, but I just cannot imagine Dorit in a CC ever - what designer does one wear to a crappy pizza and arcade games place with kids running all over the place?

I was wondering where Dorit disappeared to this episode!! Except for exiting the Viper Room complaining to Erika about how "this is my REAL life", we didn't see her at all - THANK YOU, JESUS!!!! And, what exactly did she mean by that? Was that a slip up? Hasn't Dorit been presenting her REAL life on this, a reality show, since she entered, trailing logos like she's Tinkerbell and dispensing pixie dust? So, for how long have PK and Dorit been making things look good for cameras and living separate lives off camera? I'm wondering if that was one of the reasons that Dorit is so bent out of shape over the Kyle/PK texting b.s. - is she afraid that Kyle will out the fact that the Kemsleys' have been living one life on camera (both RHOBH and in social media) and one life off? I'm glad we got a break from the screaming, angry, performative Dorit for one week - this iteration (imo, in order to maintain her position on the show) is exhausting.

Well, that was a lot to absorb!! First, I agree with everyone that the "read it, burn it and move on" game was totally producer driven. These women, including Heather, would NEVER want to reveal what they actually think and feel about the other women in the cast. I'm also sure that there are or have been other texts in their phones that go way nastier than what was revealed. Seriously - Lisa screamed on camera about Meredith sleeping with (not the words she used) half of New York and she has no problem calling Whitney all kinds of names on camera - you think she doesn't have really nasty text messages on her phone? I don't think we got to see/hear Lisa's "burn text" (or Meredith's for that matter), but I'm curious to know what they were. Whitney is a perfect "reality" cast member. She's good at manipulating a situation to make her appear caring and empathetic while she's actually stabbing a dagger into someone's back. She's a nasty piece of work, wrapped up in a pretty face and a pseudo-caring persona. Whitney completely manipulated that game to drop that supposed bombshell on Lisa. All the while, we are just supposed to forget and move on from the fact that she has been in touch with Monica, who so offended all of them last season, including Whitney. I can't stand Lisa, and don't know or care if there is any truth at all to what Whitney said, but that was a final low blow that didn't need to be put out there after so many other low blows from Whitney to Lisa. And, why would random woman just offer up herself for a threesome with Whitney and her husband and then offer up this little tidbit of info about Lisa and her husband? Seems very suspicious to me, and something that, again, can't be proven. And, can someone please, please, please give Whitney some speech therapy and teach her how to pronounce words correctly? "Hilling" = healing - Fillings = feelings, etc. etc. When she was talking about feelings, I actually had to think about it, as I though she was discussing dental work.

I think that Ubah is not getting many modeling gigs for Talbots since she's been doing this show. I get their brochures in the mail, along with looking at their website frequently, and remember seeing her quite a bit. Not so much anymore - in fact, I don't recall seeing her in the last few brochures I've gotten, because I've actually looked for her. She is tall, but she is not the stick-thin body type that we equate with a "model body" (that would be more like Erin, imo). I wonder if Talbots has backed off from using Ubah because of her appearances on this show and how she is acting on the show. She does seem to come unhinged quite easily and lashes out quickly and sharply. Talbots seems pretty conservative, so they may not want Ubah to be representing them anymore, or in a very limited capacity. The thing that bothered me about this, though, was that Bryn constantly puts down work or careers in this way. First, with Rebecca and the low comment about Nordstrom Rack, and now with Ubah only modeling for Talbots. It's like Bryn is so far above shopping or frequenting these places-like she's some kind of generational wealth heiress who's only shopped couture her entire life. It's all just so intentionally rude and intentionally snooty, from someone who has no business being that way. From what I can see, Ubah and Rebecca Minkoff have thriving careers outside of the show - what exactly is it that Bryn does? While Ubah does have an extremely high opinion of herself and her career, Bryn seems to know how to go super low and nasty to those whom she knows will react badly.

I'm still waiting for Dorit to answer the question of how she knew that Kyle was still texting with PK - she sort of danced around the question. I actually forget who asked Dorit that at the Viper Room and also can't remember if we saw who told her that Kyle and PK were still texting.

Especially with these women, who all style their outfits down to their shoes, handbags and accessories. As Garcelle said - shoes are part of the whole outfit. I have gone to homes that are "shoe free zones", but I've been warned ahead of time. I always thought that if you do not like outside shoes in your home because of the dirt and stuff that can be brought in from outside, why not provide antibacterial or sanitizing wipes at the front door instead? That way, your guests can clean the soles of their shoes. I agree, but you know, it's a storyline....so, why not throw that out there?

This is unbelievable - what happened to redecorating the house she's in currently with the high end designer? And, is she that smart with her paycheck and investments to be able to pay cash for a large home? What happened to loving the small, cozy space she's currently living in? Why does a woman with only one adult child need a six bedroom house? One bedroom for her, one for guests, one for her son (if he visits) and the other three will be closets? GMAFB!!!! Lastly, when I read this, my first thought was that I hope this house is not in one of the areas being horribly affected by the wildfires in and around LA right now. I'm not a fan of Erika's, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I think that the key to this would be Teresa and Melissa. The family feud needs to stop. Teresa and Melissa NEED this show to continue their lifestyles. If the Gorga's and Teresa and Louie think that their outside businesses will continue to be successful without the added boost from them being present on a reality TV show, they are all delusional. Soon, they will stop being invited to events because their popularity will be (or already is) waning. Once Bravo stops posting news and info about them on their social media - their opportunities will dry up. I think that Teresa and Melissa/Joe all need to weigh all of this very carefully, and decide what is more important to them. Obviously, they should try and mend fences just for the fact that they are family, but also because their livelihoods kind of depend on the fact that they are on a reality TV show. IF they are all willing to go back to the way they lived before fame and subsequent fortune came to them, then they should do that. But, I think that all of them are so addicted to the fame and spotlight on them, they wouldn't be able to handle that. Look at what is happening right now with Jen Aydin - she thought she would be cute and funny (a la Bethenny Frankel's SM rants, which BF is smart about how she disses a product or establishment - not that I like what she does, either) and it is blowing up in her face. She has basically burnt her own bridge, while she was standing on it. If there is a reboot, it would have to be with some kind of peace treaty between Teresa and Melissa. I think they would both be open for that, just because it serves them all financially. However, that would also take a lot of work on all their parts, and a lot of self reflection and admittances of wrong doing - so I'm not sure that Teresa and Louie or Melissa and Joe are ready for that kind of soul bearing and self work. I could also see Dolores returning with Teresa and Melissa, and possibly Danielle Cabral. Maybe Teresa and Melissa could convince one or two of their friends from outside the show to be on. I cannot see the producers asking Jen Aydin back, especially now. The Fuda's got too big headed too soon and the husband is a huge asshole. Margaret created way too much drama and caused sooo much fighting - she almost did her job too well. I would love to see this show return because I just can't quit these women, but I don't know if I would watch a reboot with a totally new cast. I honestly fee like that was a big mistake for RHONY.

Jennifer Tilly's doll, Tiffany, is the character that she voiced in the Chucky movies series....creepy, for sure, but that doll has made her a lot of money!! I agree, though - I've never been a fan of anything from that genre of movies, and those dolls are just way too creepy for me, too! I find Madame Alexander dolls to be creepy, too, even though some of them are quite beautiful. I guess I never figured out why someone would gift a child a doll that is not supposed to be played with - just to be admired on a shelf. I received one as a child and my Mom put her on a shelf and said "It's not for playing." Obviously, Kathy's not a child (although she acts like one at times), and probably most of the market for MA dolls is adult, but they still seem creepy to me.

After years and years of this vacation house/room bullshit on each and every RH franchise, and the subsequent arguments over rooming, I am convinced that the producers DO vet the houses, and the one "bad" room, or the required doubling up because there are not enough rooms is done intentionally, to instigate fights and arguments. When any of these trips are planned and there just happens to be the correct number or rooms so no one has to share, and all the rooms are similar in size, amenities, views, etc., the trip can't start with some arguments, and obviously, the producers want to incite fights/disagreements as soon as the women are in a confined space away from their own homes. I also wonder if, as the women get more savvy as "housewives", they may start working details regarding this as a clause in their renewal contracts, as in, "on any and all overnight trips, XXX [insert housewife name here] requires her OWN room and bathroom." I don't know if the producers would agree to that, but it seems like it would be a clause that would be important.

Oh - so Erika has now become the "sniper from the side"?? 🤣 And, yes, I agree with you, but I think that Erika loves doing that - actually helps to keep her on the show.

But, of course, she had to blame that on her Chanel pants/outfit!!! Can't Dorit even fall in the sand without letting the world know she's wearing a designer outfit?

I didn't remember Molly from ANTM, but, yes, she definitely looks different. I actually like the short hairstyle on her in this photo, than the long, stringy, thin hair she's sporting now. I just remembered Ashton fawning all over Molly, - "she's a model!!!!" and vice-versa. She was there as a guest of the lady that hired Kathryn as a stylist at that department store (Gwynn's-?) where Kathryn supposedly "worked" for a hot minute. And, yes, the Thailand season was absolutely one of the worst BD seasons!! But, I'm off topic here - I just want to know why Molly seems to be expressing an interest in Whitney, of all people!! He's probably old enough to be her father! Plus, as @Baltimore Bettynoted, he comes across as asexual to me. When he does bring a "date" to a function, she's some wraith-like slip of girl with no personality and doesn't speak much that we see - the date is always just some arm-candy, like the one he brought to this event.

When I saw Molly, she looked so familiar to me, and I didn't recall from where, until this morning. Molly was a charter guest on a season of Below Deck when they were in Thailand, I think? She hooked up with Ashton (for those that don't watch BD - Ashton was a HUGE misogynistic asshole). I guess the Bravolebrity desperation runs deep in some. Oh, and yes, JT is so friggin' annoying!! Again, desperate for psuedo fame and so jealous of Austen and Craig. Not that there's anything about Austen to be envious of - he's another one that I cannot stand. Actually, I don't really know why I'm still watching this at all, because I dislike most, if not all, of the cast, with the exception of Miss Patricia!