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I’m still reading through all the comments and since I’m not watching the show I only get my info from social media... I just wanted to point out how terrible and stuck in the early 2000s miss “i have a degree in marketing so i’m smart i swear” finglass is. All other companies and organizations in the world are trying hella hard to create semi organic opportunities to appear “woke” and responsible. And here we have an example of a so called marketing professional who literally had gold on her hands and threw it away. Both with having a covid survivor, a mental health champion AND someone who was willing to step up and speak about something that I’m sure is controversial in dallas. You can argue that Kristin wasn’t that amazing (although, the same person who legit cried over VK’s atrocious leaps has no leg to stand on but anyway) but ridiculing someone over that kind of performance during a period of civil unrest all across the us, it’s just a new level of stupid. And I saw someone saying that this wasn’t the place for it...first of all, they never said so -although we all know that a Jones would never be ok with a message like that. And also, the solos are supposed to be part of their application process and their only chance to show them who they really are. In any other normal audition process that’s exactly what you should do: find a way to show what you stand for and show your technique and skills. She did just that and the fact that she did it in front of the most stuck up people in the industry definitely won me over.

I wouldn’t call Alexis well spoken, and I definitely put her in the airhead category after that weird tik tok with VK, but ymmv. Still, it’s not like they ever had multiple girls on the team who are both well spoken and genuine. That’s what I meant -For example, we can all agree Rachel id well spoken and knows what to say, but she seems robotic to most of us so i wouldn’t put her in the “well spoken” category It was hacked. It’s now called ceoxmami and claims to be a graphic designer. True🤣and it’s still more classy than heavily editing scenes to the point no one can follow Kelli’s supposed conversations with the girls in order to create drama.

Honestly, how did she not infect anyone else? They are practicing everyday, so she most certainly went into practice before she had a chance to get tested/be alarmed. Considering they are legit doing the same dances again and again, the fact that she was messing up even in year 2 is just beyond me, but year at year 4 it’s just inexcusable. I will never understand how she made triangle. GL eh, there was no other option literally. But we could’ve had Bridget or Heather up there...or any other girl really. I actually disagree... She said in her last office visit that she was getting praise for her improvement and her cut was most certainly an effort from Kelli’s side to keep our beloved (in her mind) trainwreck on the team. It was obvious she was dealing with something bigger than “makeover is needed stat”, so you don’t kick someone while not only are they down, but they are actively working on it and improving. And don’t tell me that glamming up an obviously sad girl who can still perform is more difficult than hiding VK’s belly. At the very least, Tara shouldn’t have been cut before VK. Yeah and I definitely get it: why would she argue? It’s easy money for her by this point, so she just needs to keep her mouth shut for a few more years and then happily retire. I think it’s a bit of a strong reaction, but we’re all entitled to our opinions. While Brennan isn’t your typical DCC, I’d argue she looks more like a dcc than Amy, Maddie, Marissa, kelli and other girls that made the team and well, even point. When you place two of your more underwhelming and uhm, un-dcc looking girls at point, you don’t get to cut vets for their looks. As for her dancing, she got enough praise for her actual skills and performance and was told her only issue was during tc and letting her nerves get to her. Look through any of her clips and you won’t find a mistake -while Meredith really was a trainwreck, Savvanah (a 4th year) is still making mistakes, GL and somehow included in the triangle Tess messed up during thunderstruck, same with VK. If all these girls are still on the team, cutting a “blender” is again inexcusable. And also, I’d like to bring this up once again: it’s a team of 36 (-ish), the girls HAVE to blend in. You can’t have 36 Ginas competing against each other and even holly was toning it down during thunderstruck to blend in with the team. Kelli has been using this almost as an insult, but what the correct term would be is probably boring, not blender. And last thing: if anyone can bring up a few examples of well spoken girls from the past few years, I’d be grateful. Most of them sound like airheads when they talk, or robots, or completely boring, or overly excited (tried to be nice here) or or or. As much as Kelli is trying to convince us that dccs are rocket scientists with a passion for dance, these girls are actually the exception not the norm. One last thing, I’m dying that Kat’s stories saw the girls wearing face masks to set up the “surprise”... then tess and maddie get photographed not wearing a mask.

Also to keep this more about the current social media faux pas, I’m wondering why whoever hacked into VK’s insta just deleted everything and changed the name. In any case, I may not like her but I feel sorry for her.

Well it could be that it was her facebook or whatever that got hacked and she was afraid they found photos to send her long distance boyfriend or whatever. I doubt someone hacked her phone, found the pictures and then said eh never mind i’m not gonna use them. And I’m sorry but when Kelli is ok with the girls acting like strippers for the swimsuit, the random catwalks and the legit stripperish SG number, but the hard line is drawn on their private pictures that no one will probably see or care about. And well no offense, but based on what Kelli considers to be their fan base, they would probably be more than ok with leaked nudes. I personally think that we follow dcc more religiously than the creepy dudes but Kelli disagrees.

😂😂😂 that last sentence just killed me Well, maybe they don’t want to give these opportunities to deserving girls with less seasons under their belts to kinda force them to come back. But that’s how you lose the opportunity to put a star like Bridget upfront before they retire. Sorry not sorry, but no sane person would put Lexie, Amy, Maddie or Tess up there ahead of Bridget if you consider talent and potential only and not seniority. Savannah is one of the most senior girls atm, that doesn’t make her point or triangle material. But I also think that they haven’t faces this issue because the star girls either get the good stuff quickly and then they retire, or they retire after 2-3 years and go on bigger things. Then some blenders may stay for longer (Sydney never got much attention so they didn’t need to force her out) but they always risk getting cut in favor of a strong rookie. Then Jenna came back for a 6th year just to get pbc and point. Lacey could have done the same but by her 5th year she has been a leader for 3 years and pbc, plus I suppose it was her time to get married. Yeah and I recall during the GL meeting that she was called out as someone who never makes mistakes. As a rookie candidate. So it’s not about her dancing, definitely not about her being an ambassador risk... maybe she doesn’t suck up to VK? Juuuust kidding. Which is funny because the girls didn’t speak up for themselves only. If you’re as selfish as someone like Kelli (sorry not sorry) you just focus on what you can do to protect yourself. They tried to support their team and protect their community so it makes even less sense if you see it that way. Same!

I’m with you on that one. And everytime I think about it I get even more upset -how is that even a good excuse for cutting Hannah? It’s like kelli would rather admit that she’s such an idiot she put twice Hanna on SG, as a rookie too, even though she’s a weak dancer....than accepting that people are allowed to have opinions? Especially when said opinions are objectively correct? Ok Brianna is stunning but but but... That suit is awful and well it looks inappropriate to me, especially when her boobs are ready to make a surprise appearance. When I think how Kelli treated Heather for being victimized when she’s more than happy to treat the girls like playboy bunnies if that generates more income for her I get sooo mad. No one is expecting these girls to be saints, so quit the act ma’am. So uhm I know it’s not the point of the video but I just can’t with her mouth. Especially in this video it looks like she’s breathing through her mouth and that’s seriously not healthy. And also it’s painful to watch her try ballroom with these jarring arm movements but I’ve already commented on that video when she first posted it, I need to calm down already lol😂 Birth? Yep I had posted 2-3 pictures from her insta at some point ( I ain’t going through all her posts again to find them) and it appears VK had paid good money to take classes from him. No wonder she would get some praise from him. Still, we all know it was Amanda he was complimenting last season, they can give the “vk is god’s gift to dance” a rest. Yes for Tess it makes sense. She is the tallest on the team and she can absolutely kick high and well even flat-footed. And yes I know VK is the same height, but she can’t kick like that so a. She doesn’t look uniform anyway b. She’s risking a major injury

I don’t think they’ve used someone with less than 3 years before, which would practically mean someone fresh out of their rookie year would be leading the team next season. So I don’t think they will ever have that issue as especially lately, point girl gets everything else as well: GL, PBC, VOTY, maybe even calendar. So kashara got pbc in her third year and still came back for a 4th for example, why would she come back other than getting the 5 year ring and status? Maybe if she didn’t struggle with weight she would’ve come back. Also, I don’t consider what happened to Maddie a demotion, Amy got the same part last season and still was the one that was highlighted as an official point. Ok Alora is shown as struggling and Savanah has been struggling since day1. How would either end up in the triangle, let alone point? other than that, I agree they have more choices now than in the last two seasons. But Jalyn is in the doghouse, Rachel A wasn’t selected for a GL position so no way she would suddenly get point, Lexie wasn’t promoted to point this season so she ain’t getting it, Kristin isn’t that good and Cici was cut from SG so no way kelli is considering her for point. And well, while I’ve loved these discussions in the past, considering that we all know the next blonde at point will be “the bull in china, beautiful tornado or most commonly known as ms horsemouth”, seeing a list of all deserving girls who will never get their chance is making this even harder to swallow. Yeah exactly and thanks @ByTor for explaining what I meant! I tried to say that Kashara wasn’t the most technical and Jen wasn’t the most beautiful point but it came out so wrong😂

I absolutely believe she was supposed to have a “struggler” editing in order to make her more likable, make sure people don’t accuse Kelli of handing the position to her AND to give her screentime -if she was as amaaaaazing as Kelli claims, she wouldn’t even be shown. We all know the actual good dancers are always hidden away because there is no drama there. However, I think it backfired when mtt saw how much of a trainwreck she was and there was no way around it. Still, she was absolutely going to make the team that year, had she not managed to gain so much weight that even kelli couldn’t justify keeping her any longer. Yes, but punishing a girl who was matured enough to come clean is such an asshole move. Heather could’ve (and should’ve imo) acted like nothing had happened until she had gotten her 1GL position back. And well, since they were never leaked, she would have kept that 1GL position and defo gotten triangle if not point (you can’t convince me they would rather have Amy share point with Maddie instead of Heather).And if they were happy with making a girl that made headlines for being a racist point, Heather shouldn’t have been punished for being the victim of a crime. Say what you want about the random rules they have, but further victimizing and victim is never ok in my books. At the very least, after putting her in the doghouse for a whole year and seeing her keeping her head up and being applauded for it by her teammates, she deserved better for her final year. #justiceforheather I think the point was that they kept all of woc this year particularly because of what had been happening all over the country. I’m not saying these women didn’t earn their spots, but I’m sure there were just as many woc in the previous year who were killing it and were cut either before tc or during tc because there were only 2-3 positions available for woc. Unless they keep it up for a few more years, I’m not gonna act like suddenly this org is woke or whatever. I agree with this so much. Rachel is gorgeous and photographs well, and I mean, definitely an improvement over last season’s snoozefest. However she looks so....vacant? Uninterested? Point for me needs to have that extra something even if she’s not the most technical dancer (like Kashara) or the most drop dead gorgeous of the team (like JenK). Otherwise, they could just pick the prettiest every year and put her upfront. #Abigailforpoint

That’s fair enough and you can like anyone for any reason! But at least for Marissa, if you take away the personal stuff (social media etc), on screen she hasn’t done much to be disliked. I don’t like er look but it’s not the first dcc I don’t find attractive. However, when someone gets the same criticism for so many different people, I think there might be some truth there. It’s not like we decided to conspire to persuade everyone that hunching over and bending your supporting knee isn’t proper technique, that has been true for longer than any of us had been on this earth! for VK, I just won’t ever change my mind because no matter what she does, she is on the team only thanks to her mama. if she had come in last season directly? Eh, I’d still wouldn’t be excited but at least she wasn’t that obnoxious and well, we knew for the past decade that she would eventually make the team and stay for like another decade so fair enough. But after seeing her make not just one mistake that would end the “dcc journey” for any other girl, she legit has made everything but sleep with a player. And it’s not enough she still got a place on the team, she’s constantly featured, she got a LEADERS position in the triangle (no rookie would ever be allowed to be upfront like that) AND messed up but still just got Heather’s position after that... I just can’t deal with kelli’s bullshit anymore.

Good lord... I’m sorry but anyone who sees this mess, with VK hunching over and again almost falling back from the sheer effort, plus the fact that she always bends her knee, and still insists that she’s a veeery technical dancer... we need to stage an intervention. And i can’t believe Shelly claimed she herself taught her ballet. If she reached her 20s and she still can’t kick properly, as a teacher at least i’d be ashamed to admit I was her teacher. Why, have you ever seen any non heavy kicks from her? In fact she’s lucky she hasn’t injured herself yet, so there’s that at least. Her second time in TC wasn’t a second chance. Her being kept to the end of TC the first time was actually chance no.500. A little bit of a hot mess? What else should she have done then? Make out with a player on screen? She legit lied on her boss’ face, ghosted a veteran, gained way too much weight, had “no words”, acted like a petulant child in front of her boss when she didnt get SG even though she was actually warned she wasn’t even top 36... And she isn’t that great technique wise, that post above proves it. Good enough for dcc? Eh sure they took worse than her. Beautiful? I guess to each their own but while I appreciate she looks like the perfect dcc barbie from afar, I really can’t look away from that horsemouth -which apparently she did to herself anyway, no idea why she thought veneers was a good idea. So no, no second chance would be given to her, especially when next chance she got she fell out of a simple turn, landed OUT of her dance space and almost fall on her face. Not without the Kalina surname at least. Considering that they’ve even edited stuff out to create awkward moments etc, do you honestly believe that other girls that made the team had equally embarrassing moments yet TPTB decided to exclude the footage? Really? And I didnt actually watch last season, but I think it was proven with screenshots here that Travis was actually talking to amanda and not VK. Which still, just because you can do one style doesn’t mean you’re perfect for the team. Erin her first time around was a hot mess yet she had amazing ballet technique. Fair cut. Meredith is also amazing yet a hot mess when it comes to dcc. Alora Rose the same. VK dances spastic and out of control and her kicks are god awful for someone who claims they want to be a professional dancer and has no other option really. Did she improve? Yes, but so would all the cut girls ever if they had gotten as many chances as she did. Just look at caroline’s kick. Then VK’s. Can they have ONE post and ONE event where that girl isn’t featured? Otherwise Charlotte, since you’re too cheap to pay these girls fairly anyway, just cut the team to like 5 girls and have VK upfront all the time. It’s a much cheaper solution. That’s exactly my issue with her. That interview with Kelli was so cringey. And I still can’t get over that GL meeting her first round as 1GL, she looked absolutely terrified. It’s not her fault Kelli wanted to punish Heather, but I can’t get over the fact that Maddie took Heather’s spot. She might be vanilla to some, but Kelli highlighted her her second season on the show as one of the rookies that she noticed the more, she immediately stepped up to a leadership role, she was a great spokesperson... That’s what you want from your leaders and the faces of the team, not someone who clearly wishes she could die everytime they ask her a question.

I’m with you on that one. I don’t know how many others joined us, but I decided that I wouldn’t give them any revenue -can’t force others to join me to have bigger impact but i guess i’m doing my part. To be fair though, the VK train wreck was enough to keep me from purchasing the show last season and this season just proved i was right. Why are you trying to find logic in Kelli’s actions? Ok so, I’m with you about keeping the masks even in a bubble -because yes if it was done right they wouldn’t need the masks but considering that girls were flying in and out of states just before TC, yeah the bubble wasn’t exactly perfect. And while I understand that having “celebrities” on the screen wearing masks is a good thing, wearing the mask wrong is just as bad if not worse than not having them. They keep taking them off with their hands, no sanitizer in sight, let them sit on their sweaty necks then back in then take them off when talking to each other. Like whaaat? I don’t think anyone is making fun of the girls who kept their masks on. If anything, it’s applauded. It....it looks good? I’m impressed she’s finally managed to close her mouth, but well unfortunately it doesn’t look better. Jeans...jeans show arrogance? I agree and in general, most of the girls have made small tweaks that suited them -I’m not excited about beautiful women feeling like they need these, but it’s their choice. The problem is that some of them just don’t know where to stop. And Lacey is a good and relatively fresh example -she’s looking more and more plastic with each day. Regarding masks, I also don’t understand why they take them off when dancing. They wear them now anyway and it would be good practice because yeah it’s difficult and they should’ve had the chance to get used to it in TC. And well you know, for safety reasons as well but who cares about that right?

Ok i’m sorry, but how stupid can they be? The whole wearing masks within a bubble is definitely stupid and just to look responsible. But if you decide to wear masks to look good, wear the damn masks when it’s appropriate. No point in wearing them when you’re walking in and out of rooms on your own if you’re going to take them off to speak. That’s when you’re supposed to wear them, just saying.

Oh no they definitely do. We had some girls commenting as well, but the latest case in point is Marissa’s videos being taken down when we started criticizing them. And it wasnt the first time this has happened. Well let’s be real, they are only there to be eye candies. It’s easy to find good (and even great) dancers with good looks. But when you have a top notch dancer like Gina and you sideline her due to her looks but put Lexie and Rachel upfront... Yeah the team isn’t about dancing obviously. And I have nothing against Rachel as a dcc (as a person, well...) BUT as much as she improved after her rookie season, she really isn’t powerful or “sparkly” enough to be point. She just photographs well. Don’t you dare compare Holly and Erica to this! Well I’m kinda joking. But Holly was actually dumbing doing her dancing during her group performances and was blending really well with the others. As with Erica, I don’t recall her adding moves or straying in any way. Aaand also, Marissa could only wish she could be at their level dance wise. She’s not terrible but she’s not on their level in any way. Briana will retire for sure imo. She was extremely vocal about her opinion on Brennan and Hannah’s cuts, if she goes back for a 4th season she will be cut for sure. Tess for me will retire and Gina should do as she isn’t getting a better position in the triangle and certainly won’t get pbc. Although, if she’s happy with her GL status, I could see her doing another season to get to 5 years and do a normal round as GL. And well I hope Maddie retires. We had three years of her in the triangle, I can’t endure more. That’s exactly how I feel. She’s an ok dancer but in order to dance big she comes off a bit spastic. And well, with that face (excuse me but, oh well), I expected someone at Gina’s level or even beyond. I can’t believe we lost Hannah, who may not be everyone’s cup of tea but she was sexy as hell AND an amazing dancer... and we got this instead. I want to answer 4&5. Rachel isn’t powerful enough to be point. While I’m happy we got someone extremely photogenic after having Amy and Maddie share point... She’s not strong enough to be up there and it’s a shame when we still have girls that have both the looks and the dance ability. As for 5, Savannah isn’t a good dancer, period. SG shouldn’t be about seniority and it’s bad enough that GLs automatically get it. Which in normal circumstances is fine because GLs used to be the top of the top and now it’s more about “hmm who do we have left from the upper classes? Wait who is that extremely tall brunette whose head looks to big for her body? Tess? We had a Tess on the team? For the past 4 years? Really? Well she can be a GL i guess”. But yeah they shouldn’t be adding all upper vets to the mix as well just because they haven’t decided to leave yet.

I’ve never seen any videos of the girls doing stuff like that during that part of the game and it didnt look like anyone else in the row didnt anything other than shake their poms. Considering that Savanah started doing the same thing then stopped, it doesnt look like they get to do whatever they want.