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Ryan dodges questions like a pro. Erik was NOT teaching "sit" properly; he was being a jerk. They need a real trainer who teaches positive methods. ETA: Geez positive trainers are even all over YT free.

Jake obviously likes the superficial 80s pop culture; nothing serious. From the way he’s spoken it’s not something that’s a hard line for him, but more of an enjoyable pastime. I believe the show has made more of it than it is, because it was something different they could sink their teeth into, & something they knew many viewers would mock him for, so good TV for them. Keeping it in perspective, there are WAY worse things a guy could be spending his spare time on ffs.

Maybe Jake would feel more interested in Haley if she was actually sticking around when they weren’t filming. He said on Unfiltered she’s leaves with the cameras. Her ‘interest’ in a relationship with Jake is fake.

Clara needs to stop getting Ryan off. If he pulls back she'll know he's not worth her time. WTF with Erik & VA tonight. I check out a bit when they're going on & on - it's annoying. I have no idea what happened in the bar - she left? Where? Why? I'm confused. She doesn't want the dog trained - again why? Doesn't trust him? Hire a trainer FFS & do it together. Geez I don't get it.

Ryan the self-proclaimed best MAFS huzband evah. 🙄

Paige's mantra, even on Unfiltered "I choose me" -awesome, now go away.

Geez the flashback of Brianna's squeals cracked my laptop.😒

Haley's enjoying her camera time., then she'll go home with Sophie after filming.

And no one gives a fuck about you, Chris.

It's a threesome with one person just instructing & watching.

It's supposed to be 1st thing in the morning but Erik sounds drunk.

Jake just confirmed on Unfiltered that Haley is "gone after they're done with their activities for the day". In other words, she's only showing up for the cameras, when she whines about how much she's giving & trying. 🙄

Guess Brianna prefers her dough boy Vinny. More importantly, Paige shouldn't even be there.

I like the 'before' Erik, but at least it wasn't a huge change. I think if VA lived a cleaner lifestyle her skin would smooth out & she'd look just as good, in her own way of course. They have similar features - large brown eyes & long brown hair. Maybe that's his type. I do wonder why he would do a show like this, though. Maybe when his ex remarried he was feeling insecure.

Yes I recall, & the dogs will never live peacefully together either, just like their owners. If we somehow find out Jake growled & performed an unwanted golden shower during their drunk sex I'll be totally team Haley.

Maybe he's just being tight lipped for the show narrative with them. They're too comfortable with each other to not have been having some good discussions. She seems to be overdoing it with the pouting over no sex too, so it could just be their shtick.

Dog knew something... We haven't seen Jake & Haley's dogs together the whole season. It would be difficult to merge two dogs, never mind 4 together, happily. That in itself should've screamed do not pair these two. Stupid 'sperts'.

Paige has one. Hope it shits on his fancy shoes.

I agree. Her commentary & judgement on Unfiltered reg. the other relationships is out of place when her story line is so pathetic. Her TH's when she's eye rolling or participating in the Chris hate is pathetic too, because she's the one perpetuating it while sucking up being praised for her 'character', enjoying her TV time & victim status. If she's truly not meeting up with him except for filming then she's also lying to the audience about her commitment. No one would care if she wanted nothing to do with him, but instead she keeps playing along. But I believe she's a total fake. I didn't pay too much attention but I think she's also concerned about her dog in his place. His stuff & his dog will be moving with them too, so if she's not comfortable at his place she won't be comfortable sharing a new place with him either.

Ah, so same thing that's going on with discussions on the board as to what happened. I see, thanks for clarifying. While it is a possibility, it's quite a leap to go to & very nasty to speculate about someone on TV. Also, I doubt they'd do that to a woman. I hope if it was the case that Haley only mentions it to Jake or keeps it to herself.

Well that's sad about Jake but she was drunk, so maybe not the best judge or that great herself? Also, Jake seems like someone open to discussion so she could've spoken to him about it instead of broadcasting to her 'friends' who now put it out there on TV. They all suck IMO.

I like the Clara/Jake option better than Clara/Erik. C&E might end up with conflicting travel schedules. I think Clara would be able to handle Jake's quirkiness, & on Unfiltered he said he's all over the place with regard to what he likes & doesn't mind giving things up & changing things. However, neither are Clara's physical 'type', because I believe she said she's not really into white guys? Ryan is perfect for her physically; he's just reserved & quieter. I had an aunt who would never shut up, whereas her husband, my uncle, was very quiet & reserved. So that pairing could still work. I don't think Erik & VA are long term material though.

Close, with the over exaggerated facial expressions LOL.

Looking at it yeah he seems cold. But I don't trust the narrative here & think they're doing better than it seems. I think it was on Unfiltered where Clara said she was always on a stage in school, & loved all the attention. I get the feeling the constant long face about no sex (supposedly) is her just hamming it up. Ryan isn't as good at it. 😂

I think he was just being honest, because he was being asked a direct question about it & made some comments on the show that indicate Haley is definitely not his type. He's said he likes big noses, & also that he doesn't do well with anxious people & told the 'experts' this. But I do believe he's been trying regardless & being honest, while Haley has not. Again, she's just doing her thing, rejecting right away - she just can't get away from this one & yeah that must suck for her. And I would agree that the 'experts' suck except they (supposedly) do the picking & it's for a teevee show, so in that regard, with all the chatter here about them, they've done well. Between J&H & C&P, they're probably drowning themselves in celebratory champagne this season. 🤬