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Deja’s character to me is a chore to watch. The actress who plays her does a good job but the character itself is grating. Really wish that subplot did not exist. When they hinted that Randall and Beth would adopt again and they showed clips of the little boy I thought that had a lot of potential, but it turned out to be a flash forward. If Deja gets written off I’d consider it a win but clearly after that ending and the entire episode dedicated to her character, that’s not happening. As far as the episode I liked it overall. Definitely liked Beth’s cousin and glad she will have more of a role going forward. I can’t be the only one who google’d that song that played during the wedding scene, right? Beautiful and appropriate for that moment. Not a fan of the flash forward scenes but intrigued by where they are going with it. If they didn’t do all the future stuff (Deja destroying the car, Kevin going to Vietnam, etc), this would have been the perfect way to end the series with Kate getting married and finally letting go of the 20 year grief. Don’t get me wrong I love this show so I hope it’s on for a long time but that scene looked so perfect from a closure standpoint. Oh well, time to wait an eternity for season 3.

The issue I had with this ending, and really the show itself, is that no one seems like a real person. The characters are basically cartoon characters. They don't react like human beings when faced with an actual problem, they don't act like them, and it's hard to take the show seriously because of it. Some memorable episodes from Full House involved DJ not fitting in at school and having to eat lunch in the phone booth. You could actually feel DJ's pain in that episode because it was relatable. It felt like it could have happened to anyone. While on this show, Ramona is an outcast and somehow gets in a dance off in the middle of the cafeteria and her cartoon family comes in pretending to be rappers, etc. Then in another episode they show Kimmy's home being the equivalent of a circus so they could throw a few gags in there. It was like a bad Disney show. I know the original Full House was sappy, but it kind of feels like the current show is mocking the old show rather than celebrating it. They have milked enough nostalgia out of this to where they don't need to bother to do anymore shows, IMO. This show had real potential, but I don't think anyone viewed it as anyone other than a cash grab for nostalgia. I guess it is what it is. I would have liked more emphasis on explaining what happened to the characters in a realistic way, but instead they focused on breaking the fourth wall and being meta rather than telling any actual stories. The last episode wasn't bad, but I think that should be it.

The characters not acting like real people is a very legitimate criticism. The original Full House may have been campy, but the situations still felt authentic. Like, DJ's first day of high school (I think) where she gets teased and eats lunch in the phone booth was relatable. You could actually see that happening (maybe not exactly like that but some version of that) in real life. In this show, everybody acts like a cartoon character, and it really takes you out of it as a viewer. That's not even factoring the breaking of the fourth wall and insider references that are horrid on any show. I'm definitely tuning out of this. I saw most of season 3, but it's just not there. I'm Ok with playing off nostalgia, but if that's all the show is going to be, then it will get old fast, and it has.

DJ with Matt was a much better fit. I don't know why this show has such a thirst for DJ/Steve nostalgia. The chemistry just isn't there. Plus the way things ended made the audience sympathize with the two people who will likely be phased out of the show, while making the two people who will remain on the show (one of them being the star) as the ones who acted like dicks. If this was the end game, then there was a better way to get there, IMO.

I thought Randall's reaction was fine, too. He was supposed to be out of line. He's new to this process and the woman put him in his place. I thought that was the whole point. The character I cannot stand is Kate. The young Kate is great, but the present day one is the most unlikable person on the show by a landslide. No redeeming qualities at all. I actually think Kevin's character is at least interesting due to the addiction issues. You definitely get the sense that the parents had favorites and Kevin probably felt left out as a child. I'm sure that will be expanded on, along with the addition issues.

Late to the party, but I just binged watch this with my wife. My thoughts might be similar to those mentioned. - I thought Hannah was a bit cruel to include Clay in the tapes, or at least draw it out so long. I get that she wanted him to listen to everything that happened to her so that by the time he got to his own tape he'd be able to understand why she reacted like that in the bedroom scene. I just felt like it came off insensitive to the one guy who treated her right. Especially since she yelled at him to get out of the room repeatedly. He is not a mind reader who could understand what she was going through. If I was in his spot, I would have left the room too, and also held resentment the next time I saw her. - I was more bummed about Jeff's death than Hannah's. Maybe because Hannah's death was inevitable, but Jeff was a true friend to Clay, along with Tony. It was weird that Jeff was only in the flashbacks and not in real time. Then when it was explained, it made sense. - The suicide scene was brutal, but I'm glad they did it like that. A lot of the story did seem to romanticize suicide, so showing how one actually looks and feels (gruesome) probably helped in dispelling that. - There will be copycat suicides in real life. I'm almost positive of that. As brutal as the suicide scene was, there will be teens who like the revenge aspect of it. Unavoidable. - The depiction of high school was spot on. I'm in my 30's so it's been a while, but the only difference between that HS and mine was technology changes (cell phones, social media). High school sucks and kids are cruel. - Selena Gomez already said there will be a season 2, I believe. Without Hannah's character being the focal point, it will be difficult to maintain the magic they had in season 1, but I'm intrigued by it. - The actress who played Hannah is incredible. Great acting on her part and she is going to be a big star in my opinion. Overall I enjoyed the series. It is one that I still think about days after finishing it. Very real topic and I thought they did a good job with it, minus a flaw here or there.

If the season finale was last week's episode, showing Jack leaving to go see her, I think it would have been better. This one felt like a huge letdown after last week. I knew they were not going to reveal Jack's death. They needed a hook for season 2, and Jack's character is too important to the show to write off (even if they still use him after revealing the cause of death, which I'm sure they will). At least for now the viewers still see him as "alive" because they never said how he died. Once that box is opened, there is no closing it anymore. They will have to be very careful with how they write it. The episode itself was fine, but as a season finale, especially with all the hype, it felt unsatisfying.

As a stand alone episode it was fine for what it was. I'm not a big fan of meta scenes in TV shows. I like being lost in the moment, but GMW is certainly not the only show that is guilty of it (BMW did the same thing towards the last few years of their run). My issue with the episode, and really the entire series, is the lack of any "realness". Nothing feels real or authentic. The friendships, the "relationships", and even Cory and Topanga's marriage, which is astonishing considering how close they were in the original. Why would Topanga care about Harley and Minkus' opinion about her move? Why would the entire classroom feel saddened at Riley leaving as if she spent 2 seconds talking to anyone other than the regular characters? It's just so stupid and contrived that it's hard to get into it. There was really no way from them to write this episode with any consistency since the entire series was all over the place. At least it's mercifully over, and if it does get picked up, it won't be on Disney. I don't think Disney is as much to blame as the writers are, but maybe another network will give it a bit more freedom. If the series dies at this point, I think that would be preferable, though.

I'm glad it's being cancelled. Not because I want to see actors out of work, but because the show was not very good. You can blame Disney for a lot of things, but unless they have a clause in their contract that prevents Michael Jacobs from writing stories that make sense, then a huge chunk of the blame falls squarely on the writers. The concept of the show was fine, the execution was awful, and if Jacobs is as proud of the show as he claimed to be, then he should not be writing TV anymore. The "world" that Jacobs depicted on this show was a joke. It wasn't funny, clever, thought provoking, or relatable in anyway. A lot of it was forced. You couldn't sink your teeth into anything because instead of showing you something, they told it to you (i.e. Shawn/Katy love each other randomly rather than letting the audience get to fall in love with them as a couple.....or Riley and Maya are best friends because they tell us that on every friggin' episode, etc). There was so much potential for this that they wasted, and it's not the fault of the actors. From Shawn/Angela's relationship, to the "triangle", to Shawn/Katy's sudden love for each other, to Eric's childish story arcs, etc, etc, everything was done in the most lazy way possible. The only way to continue the show would be to retcon everything that happened on Disney. Seriously. Every single thing. Mold the show like Fuller House where the adults are the main characters and the audience can slowly start to get to know the kids rather than throwing the lovable characters in a side role and putting the unknown kids in a spot they have no chance of ever living up to. An adult remake of Boy Meets World would have been fantastic. Girl Meets World will be known, at least to me, as a show that had potential but was let down by the writers.

The issue is the show is so unrealistic and contrived that it's hard to sink your teeth into as a viewer. Jacobs thinks that by being meta and cute about the show's inconsistencies that it makes up for them, but it really doesn't. I really think canceling the show and retconning everything that happened on it would be the best thing to happen to it at this point. Maybe have the final episode be 20 year old Cory waking up next to Topanga and telling her that he had a horrible dream. Riley, Auggie, and the entire show's narrative ceases to exist.

Very realistic to have a class full of freshman being shocked when hearing about sex in 2016. And by realistic, I mean ridiculous.

How do we know Maya is not pretending to like Zay? What if this time instead of turning into Riley, she turns into Lucas, to test whether Zay is really a good enough friend for him? See what Michael Jacobs has done to me???? Make it stop!

Riley does not know about evil, but was cyber bullied in a previous episode. She must have forgotten that, or maybe forgave her bully on the spot because apparently it's easy to forgive stuff in the GMW universe. Absolutely terrible episode. I agree with the sentiments here; the issue with Zay was infuriating to watch. It could have been an interesting side story. It could have been similar to Cory/Angela in that Zay starts to question whether he's really friends with anyone in the group besides Lucas, and they could have explored that a bit more. Instead, he forgives a clearly insincere Riley so she can sing and dance at the end of the episode and everyone laughs while the credits roll. Baffling.

It's been like that well before these two episodes, unfortunately. The writing on this show is horrendous. Complete fantasyland writing where you roll your eyes at how unrealistic everything is. Say what you want about BMW, but a lot of episodes were relatable. They went off the deep end a bit towards the end of their run with the goofiness, but for the most part, Cory was a normal kid going through normal issues that kids his age went through. I don't get that sense here, and while I'm not a kid so therefore not their target audience, I can still see the difference between a good kid's show and a bad one. Part II was all over the place, but I cannot get over how bad "Maya became Riley to protect her" is as the explanation to a 2-season long story. They stretched it out so long and that was the explanation they came up with? What teenaged kid would ever do that in real life? Is it even possible to do it in real life?? I want to see how they go from here. Maybe the quality will improve now that this storyline is over, but considering that the show wasn't exactly well written prior to this, I'm not very hopeful.

I was also wondering why they made the Ski Lodge seem like something Topanga never shuts up about, yet Riley had no idea who Lauren was doing the time capsule episode the prior season. ANd I agree, the Josh/Maya thing is strange. I think they either realized how bad it looked and tried to make it seem like the age difference wasn't as big as initially specified, or they are doing the Michael Jacobs trademark of aging the main characters by 2 or 3 years and Maya's actually a senior in HS now. The writing for this show is lazy and some times insulting to the viewer. I know they are aiming for a younger demo, and that's fine, but even kids are going to see through logic/plot holes. Nice concept for a show, but man did Jacobs flop miserably with this. There was so much potential for this show.