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Yeah, and Kyle has always been the one looking for a reason to be angry with, scream at, and belittle Dorit. Most recently-You joked about me not being your favorite sister after I spilled a drink on you! You didn't jump in to defend Teddi after I already did! I am sure Dorit is trying hard to keep her job, but she has absolutely valid reasons to have issues with Kyle. She was kind of a doormat with Kyle for years. Sutton and Garcelle may not have anything juicy going on in their own lives right now, but I don't expect the whole cast to. This isn't a group full of 20-somethings or 30-somethings like Vanderpump Rules. Dorit is probably the only returning cast member with a fresh storyline. Kyle having issues with Mauricio and possibly being into women are both from last year. Erika doesn't really have anything new going on either. Things have just settled somewhat with the Tom scandal.

He did. As unprofessional as it was, I believe the texts were real.

ITA. I don’t trust Brynn. I get that she has a pattern of shadiness. I don’t like how she mocks the careers of the other women. I think she can be beyond inappropriate, especially towards Jenna. But as dark as the episode was, I don’t think she’s the bottom of the barrel Housewife or irredeemable. Wasn’t she drunk? What she said was undoubtedly wrong and very hurtful, but it didn’t seem calculated, just something she blurted out in the heat of the moment. When she realized Ubah said she didn’t remember, she thought about it and realized that maybe Ubah didn’t “clock” Brynn sharing her SA. I wouldn’t want to be her friend and don’t blame the other women if they’re all done with her. I can see how she could be dangerous to be friends with how reckless she is. But I still don’t see Brynn as a Jen Shah or even a Brandi Glanville. She doesn’t give evil vibes, just someone who needs therapy for her trauma and accountability for her mistakes. JMO.

I was also reminded of Brynn when I watched Salt Lake. I don’t get why you’d lie about jewelry. Who cares if you bought it or not. I wouldn’t, but if I were a rich lady in SLC, I sure wouldn’t want to get my jewelry from a store that has such little respect from customers.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she had more work done. Erika is very honest that she’s not against plastic surgery. Erika does have great makeup artists, but all the women have access to great makeup. She’s one of the few housewives in the franchise that has the look of beautiful texture. You can tell she takes great care of her skin imo.

I wouldn't group Kyle with people like Teresa Guidice or Rachel Leviss. She doesn't seem slow to grasp information, but I wouldn't say she's the smartest either. Even Erika has better grammar, a better memory, and intellectual curiosity. I wonder if part of the ghosting thing is just a matter of Kyle not speaking to coworkers until she has to work with them again. I know with her sisters it's different, but I don't know if she would bother mending things with some of these women if she didn't have to. In all seriousness, maybe Kyle forgot she was being filmed? Or maybe she thought it made PK look kind of sus and surely she just responds to PK, because he gets mad of course. Who knows. I'm team Dorit with just about all their issues, but maybe I'm naive because I actually do believe that Kyle never meant any harm or disrespect with the communication. I don't love the brother-sister argument when it's used regarding people who met way later in life. I guess I've heard that used too many times by people who've either hooked up or would hook up. But I get what Kyle means. She sees PK as one of the girls.

Kyle brought up the texas because she thought it was harmless since it was mostly mims back and forth.

I agree that it makes it tricky for the cast when you make something a storyline, but you expect your castmates to be very careful with what they say, whether that's what Bronwyn went through with this family or someone like Kyle making Morgan and her marital problems her storylines. I do see a lack of compassion for Bronwyn and Gwen from Lisa. She seems to really feel for the grandparents, but only the grandparents. Bingo. I also believe Lisa about the jewelry, but again, it felt very mean and unprofessional of that jeweler. Who would want to do business there? That's hilarious! I admit I have no room to make fun though. I try to avoid parallel parking at all costs.

Other than the rosacea, Erika really does have very beautiful skin though. Makeup can only do so much. I don’t see any wrinkles, sagging, pores, etc. I think she has the prettiest skin of them all actually. Covering up some redness is not a big deal.

That’s exactly it. Kyle wasn’t above the drama or ashamed of her behavior when she bullied Lisa Vanderpump and Denise Richards off the show. Now it’s suddenly the end of the world when she has to address some texts?

I'm surprised they even left that scene in. That's such a disgusting thing to say. I also think it's mean when men mock women who've had work done. It's like damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Thank you! MTE. Can you please host the reunion?

Haven't gotten to that scene yet, but not surprised. Most adults try not to cry over every little thing. Kyle is like the opposite. I think she believes tears = victim. Boz looks so pretty at the spa day. Jennifer looks adorable in her sunnies. Production likes to laugh too. 😂

I remember that makeup scene because I couldn't believe Yolanda said that! I don't think she meant to be offensive, but still. I don't think she ever addressed the remark either. I remember that too. I think Yolanda saw all the diet stuff as supporting Gigi's modeling dreams, but again, I was uncomfortable watching. I know Yolanda can say offensive things and come across very tough, but I'll give her this. I think she is more authentic than a lot of women who've done the show, a good person at her core, and almond mom and all, raised sweet kids. I think it was exactly that, sadly. That's what I think too. David enjoyed having this beautiful woman cater to him. I don't think there was anything deep there, at least not on his part. I also admire his talent, but I couldn't imagine being married to him no matter what kind of lifestyle he could provide. I remember when Yolanda took her breast implants out, David joked "Ken has better tits now." I'm sorry, that's not funny. All any woman would want to hear from her partner is that he wants her to get better, that she's beautiful no matter what, etc.

Thank you. It really is a huge problem. I know we all have different opinions on filming. I have wondered myself if it is wrong and if Robert Jr. was not in his right mind to consent. I really do see both sides. I still believe Mary about where she was coming from as a public figure with rumors swirling and know we all wish Robert Jr. well. He's so young and has his whole life ahead of him. Agree.

Mary is not my favorite, but I'm sure this was not the first time they had the conversation. I understand the mixed thoughts about filming something so personal. I don't want anyone vulnerable exploited, but as someone who recently lost a friend to an overdose, I think being more open about these struggles can lead to less stigma and more people having conversations and getting their loved ones help. Some parents don't even want to admit their kids have a problem.

I guess she took Ambien again.

I'm not sure, but I thought Lisa said Yolander. I might be confusing that pronunciation with other words. Most of the time she just sounds English to me, but I do remember she pronounced Mauricio like Mauritzio.

Anyone else like Whitney less and less? I think her pretty face and baby voice make her come across as more innocent than she is in actuality. Other than the stuff we already discussed, isn't this the second time she's spreading sexual rumors about Lisa? I think the last time she did that she said Meredith started it, but it was Whitney that I remember blasting it on the show. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been awhile. For any flaws, Lisa is probably the last person on the show that gives slut vibes, yet she's repeatedly slut-shamed. And then even just saying stuff like she could go there about Lisa's looks. Maybe she didn't mean to, but that statement alone implies Lisa is unattractive. It was pretty mean imo. I know Lisa isn't everyone's favorite, but it's disheartening how often a woman as beautiful as her is attacked for not having frozen face.

Agree about Bronwyn's style. I thought she looked so pretty when she was dressed as Audrey Hepburn. I'd love to see her channel more Audrey and Jackie Kennedy, but with a modern twist, kind of like Charlotte York. Preppy, classic clothing like Ralph Lauren and J. Crew would look great on her. For someone who slut shamed half the cast, down to "high body count hair," Angie sure wears revealing clothes. Her boobs are constantly out, and she literally had to be blurred this episode. Wear what you want, but you are not the one to get on to the other women about looking slutty.

Agreed. Salt Lake is way more entertaining than RHONY or last season of RHONJY.

Not to get too OT, but I understand Paul wanting a wife and not a bachelor life. His style of conservatism that includes a wife decades younger than him and having babies when he’s in his 60s are entirely different.

I know quite a few women who’ve had kids 40+, but I don’t think I personally know someone who had a baby in her late 40s, although I know it happens. @Keywestclubkid I hear you too. I watched a show where the character was having a baby, and she was clearly at least in her 50s to me. I looked up the actress’ age, and she was indeed a woman of a particular age, and the storyline wasn’t even that she was having this surprise or miracle baby. I am open to having kids older myself, but at a certain point it is not practical. As much as I don’t like the messaging that only super young woman can have kids, (not true and frankly misogynistic, as men are only shamed when they’re elderly), I don’t love Hollywood portraying having kids way older as something easily achievable.

I don't blame you, but that would be low even for Bravo standards. With the Guidice and Girardi scandals, it's tricky to tell just how involved the wives were. Jen is a different beast.

^ She is gorgeous! It's a pet peeve of mine when people act like women are infertile as soon as they're 30 or 35. I absolutely getting having kids into your 40s, but I don't love the idea of Paul being a dad again at 62. I hope he takes excellent care of himself, has great genes, and lives a very long life. It's still pretty risky though.