mamadrama

Golly gee, where to start? Since I didn't participate in the live convo, I'll jump in right now and say HELL YES I want the Ritz Carlton experience when I have kids. I spent most of my first pregnancy in England and I came back to the US to deliver. In my last delivery, the hospital even provided a prime rib dinner (catered) with candles for me and my husband on my last night there. Pao can GTFO with her home birth. Good for her, I'm sure it wasn't easy, but it doesn't make my delivery or anyone else's somehow less meaningful or less painful. Michael is totally getting off on having a young, pretty good from a poverty-stricken home so he can GTFO, too. I am totally rooting for Juliana. She seems lovely. And this whole nonsense with drama from his ex is just that-nonsense. A storyline just like the will she/won't she get the visa. Robert's an immature prick (he speaks to his girlfriend in the same manner in which he speaks to his toddler and it's inappropriate for either). I had a hard time rooting for Anny because she was rude to the store clerk, but I also understood how she might feel. This guy is a major douche, and so far she has more points simply for the way in which she treated Bryson. Mursel and Anna HAVE to be faking this crap, right? RIGHT?! So she spent 6 weeks with him in Turkey and presumably met his family and the subject of her kids never came up? Two things are going on here...Either the whole thing is fabricated to give them a storyline (and that's awful in its own sense) or Mursel is a crazy psycho who is biding his time until he can take her back to his country and chain her up in his superior Turkish basement. Seriously. A man actually told her that he wanted her to leave her kids and go to him in another country? NO. Why would she even be with him after that? And in his talking head he said they'd have to stay in America "for a little while." Dude is still planning on dumping the kids and whisking her back there. This is not good. Along with a dating service for the B characters of this series, can we also buy a group home so that we can start taking in these poor kids?

This asshat seems to "joke" a lot: about how his girlfriend should make a porno minutes within landing, about her alleged poverty when he isn't around...Dude is a real comedian. Sinjin said "bartending" first, making him seem fairly reasonable. Then it all went downhill from there. I liked how he thought he would just "try" opera-like there aren't years of vocal lessons, education, and talent involved. I think I am going to try professional wrestling and then maybe a school principal or professional cake decorator.

My son has gorgeous long blond hair that frequently grows to his waist. He loves it, his friends love it, and we love it. It has caused zero confusion in his life and I would have no problem telling someone to fuck off if they speechified about it to us.

Michael: I wish people would stop asking about Julianna being a hooker... Also Michael: Wanna shoot a limo porno? I felt for Emily. Yikes. Sinjin wants to be a bartending, firefighting, opera singing actor? I hope the Bee People are just pretending because, if not, this is a trainwreck worse than most.

Oh guys...the secondhand embarrassment for Angela was high last night. I had a hard time watching. Him making all those sacrifices and stuff... He's a terrible actor. The only thing he said that I believed was when he promised he wouldn't be caught riding other "females" on the bike. Methinks the "Michael" in his messages was indeed a Michael and not a "Michelle." He is totally gaslighting her and paving the way for a future breakup, though, but this fucker will screw with her enough to make sure he gets a lot of toys and stuff out of it first. Speaking of acting...Glorietta isn't real, right? She and Lacey are just some crazy chicks looking for 15 minutes of fame, right? RIGHT?! Someone please help the world make sense to me again; I can't allow myself to believe that these people are legit. I honestly don't think Cheryl can do better than Josh. Josh, on the other hand, can most certainly do better than Cheryl. And boy, the little fucker with the weird beard needs to be taken down a notch or two. He really does think he's all that, doesn't he? The whole time he was asking GLorietta to tell him what she loves about him, I was kinda wanting to know as well. The only thing dude has going for him is an ex girlfriend who seems somewhat normal.

Just as I predicted, the whole will she/won't she get the vis was just a manufactured plot line. In the newest episode she magically has it. For him to he soooo upset about people thinking she is a hooker, he sure does bring it up a lot. In fct, he is the ONLY person bringing it up. The whole "limo porn" comment was diststeful at best.

Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought it was a joke, too, because pee-AIR-ee does look just like Paul.

Except in this case she IS signed with multiple international agencies, including PRM London and one in Sweden. She is not a "model" like Pao. She has had a fair amount of success. I don't care if she side gigged as an escort or not, I just think it sucks that the word "model" is tossed around so much these days that it has become throwaway job title.

It was very much a humblebrag. I kept waiting for: "Well, I don't really want to talk about how much money I've given her because I haven't added it up except for, oh wait, what's this notepad in my pocket tallying up all her expenses? I've spent exactly $104,321.32 on here so far. But money doesn't really mean anything...would you like to see an itemized list?"

That reminds me of what a friend said about the movie TROY when Diane Kruegar was cast as Helen: "THIS is supposed to be the face that launched a thousand ships? Maybe a couple of dinghys..." (FWIW, I think she's attractive but it was still funny at the time.)

I think that dude is like Bon Jovi-he seems to actually get better looking with age.

The more I think about it, the more I call shenanigans on the phone call Michael got at the jewelers. We never heard her voice. I think either the phone call was fake (possibly a producer calling in) or it was a recreated event from the past. I wouldn't be surprised if the car was NOT a surprise. This dude has my hinky meter up. If he REALLY loved her like he claims then why keep mentioning the prostitute thing and money amounts? He *should be smart enough to know that these anecdotes are giving us a character composite of Juliana that's not altogether positive. He WANTS us to know how much money he has spent on her. The guy is looking for a pat on the back and a hot younger model.

Yeah, there almost HAS to be an ulterior motive to this. Meeting someone on vacation, interacting online in a shared forum, introduced by friends, etc I can understand. (I met my husband because I decided to move to the UK for grad school and he wound up being my roommate. It was more or less organic.) For those who go out of their way, though...I think there really is some self-esteem issues going on: either they think VERY highly of themselves and want some kind of control over their conquest or they think lowly of themselves and believe that they have a better chance of hooking up with a beauty if they go outside the states. I REALLY give the side eye to the men who are 15+ years older than their spouses. That feels intentional.

He's starting to remind me of John Stamos' character in that SVU episode. The one where he's a serial impregnantor? (Or whatever they call it).

Well at the risk of sounding like Michael, he's not a prostitute. I was a poor college student when we met. No way I'd have been able to afford his services if he'd been one.

Yeah, the season previews showed a few scenes that could be taken that way. Ha ha, I don't know. He's from England. 🙂 The US embassy interview part of the process uses the same questions regardless of country of origin. They may tweak it a little bit to reflect any specific issues that country may be experiencing at that time, but the sex work question seems to be across the board and everyone has to get a police report and a doctor's exam (complete with chest x-ray).

Okay, so I am calling bullshit on some of the Michael/Juliana plot crap. First of all, she is a "real" model-not, like, Pao paying someone to forget about putting her in the database. Juliana is signed with two legitimate agencies. Showing proof of that would help her get over those "lots of stamps in her passport." Secondly, the "have you worked as a prostitute in the past 10 years" is a standard question in the interview-NOT something to get their knickers in a twist about. My own husband was asked that. This whole will she/won't she get the visa storyline sounds just like that-a storyline. They may drag it out to the end of the season, but I would bet good money that she'll eventually come here and they'll marry. Their story needs SOME kind of tension. This is probably it. Also not getting all the "whore" and "hooker" jokes about her. She's a beautiful 23 year old woman who comes from a small place where her looks (and probably personality) were her best assets. I think that's sad. If she started as a young teen, that's not prostituting-that's sex trafficking. If she began as a model and escort at 18 well, then, more power to her-as long as it was her choice. I don't understand why prostitution in and of itself is illegal anyway. Sex trafficking, forced prostitution, child trafficking, etc. are all understandable, but a woman of age who wants to use her body to earn money? It's not for me, but I'm not going to judge it. Michael is the one who I think is the odd duck in this relationship. He's the one who went after a 20 year old who looked 15, the one who made a racist/sexist/colonialist joke about his presence with her in Brazil, the one who seems to be overcompensating with the penis expensive car, the one who keeps protesting about her being a prostitute. So far, if I have any beef with anyone in that couple, it's him. I actually think she seems lovely. I'm kind of rooting for her.

I did a canvass of my K-1 friends..."10 years" seems to be the standard question. My husband said they asked him as well and that was 12 years ago so it has been around for a while.

We could've had Friend Zied hooked up so many times just from other random cast members. We should start our own "dating" service on here. Single contestants could pay us to fix them up with other cast members. Would that make up pimps? Who cares, we're clearly better at this than they are.

She's either 22 or 23. A 10 year old's not a "whore", though. That's a sex trafficked child.

I can't believe Anna continued the relationship after Mursel asked her to leave her children and move to Turkey. The fact that he would even ask would've been a red flag to me. I have Turkish friends and they're very family oriented. This is not "typical" behavior. It's weird. I would've had zero trouble cutting someone off after such a conversation. I mean, they don't even seem to be able to communicate-how strong could their bond have possibly been?

Ordering pizza for their first night at home wasn't that weird to me. My mom used to be really big into the folk dancing scene and we traveled all over the world with her performance group. We also hosted international groups here in the US and for several years there were always people staying with us. We almost always ordered pizza for their first night here because it's something that most people recognize and find comforting. Plus, you're not leaving your guest sitting in a living room full of strangers while you're cooking. I give Bee Lady a pass for that. On an episode full of littering in airports, yelling at blue collar workers, making a child sleep next to a strange woman he's never met, and a whole bunch of other crazy, that's one of the least weirdest things I saw. I have a good friend who's a very successful Polish author. He visits the US once a year and I always go down to Nashville to meet him (did so last weekend, in fact). He is also one of these "everything is better in my country" kind of people. Polish eggs are better, Polish music is better, Polish countryside is prettier, Polish women are more attractive...We just laugh it off. I think it's 40% cultural and 60% homesickness. The longer he's here, the better it gets. With that said, how in the world did the Bee People interact in Turkey for 6 weeks? I do not have an ear for foreign languages, but even I can pick up more phrases than what they're getting out of each other. I'm with everyone else-how can you "love" each other when your conversations basically comprise of "send more money" and "I love you so much"?

My British husband also got asked these things and everyone has to provide a police report for the K-1 visa. It's policy and not aimed specifically at Julianna. With that said, I still think she may have been an escort.

Okay, so this preview made me extremely uncomfortable. Should someone sent Mursel a message? Blink twice if he thinks he's there on a bee convention? I have loved someone who spoke a different language, but we've ultimately been able to find SOME form of communication. How in the heck are these two going to make this work? I feel bad for him. Michael and the "she's not a prostitute" model...oy vey. Even though she's run up his credit cards and bought a car 3 weeks before she's meant to fly to the US, I still think she came off better than him. I also feel sorry for her. Tania can get the fuck out with her rose petals.

Does Mursel REALLY understand why he is in the US?