Yours Truly

Anyone notice at the end there how Dorit made a very meek attempt at kinda sorta trying to hold together the FFF? She leaned over and whispered to Kyle “this shouldn’t have been brought up”. I think she was trying to sorta scold Kyle about having this discussion in the group as opposed to their little private strategy sessions. I know I’m kinda reaching but the low tone and the way she delivered that line sounded outside of the tone of the show and had more of a “fourth wall” energy. Like “honey, you veered way off script..” I dunno. Something about that quick moment reminded me of when Dorit and Rinna were discussing getting Erika outta the room. It felt like Dorit was trying to remind Kyle about the pact or something.

RIGHT!!! Like so what. To act like there has been some crisis invoked by that woman because she went on a rant. And the pearl clutching over the alleged slurs are also causing me to eyeroll. One is her using the term white privilege which..... and...???? and the other using the F word while unacceptable and ugly isn't something Imma call my congressman about. There's true hatred and then there's just silly ignorance. Besides, I never understand what it is that's supposed to be done after said bad behavior? This need for swift, immediate and debilitating punishment in today's society now a days sort of scares me. I don't want to be required to be completely and absolutely consumed by the mistakes of others to the point that I NEED their heads on a platter. It's just gotten so Lord of the Flies if you ask me. Sheesh!

In a nutshell basically.

I can't believe how easily Kyle got away with grabbing and yanking Brandi like that. People still tried to put it on Brandi as if Brandi was the aggressive one and she literally had both hands full and was just trying to get Kim to leave an escalating situation. I get that people don't like Brandi but back then she wasn't sooooooooo bad and to be honest Brandi had recognized how Kyle sets Kim up filming wise and was just calling it out. I was so happy someone was speaking up about this but of course it was Brandi so nobody really took a closer look at what she was pointing out. Brandi never said Kim was a saint, just that Kyle always manages to try and have "conflict resolution" at some seriously inopportune times. That was one example of how Kyle wasn't happy with the idea of a camera moment slipping away from her. Kim actually gave in and ended up speaking to Kyle outside. I hate to say it but Kim and Brandi's friendship, after how they started and how much Kim refused to ever squash it was something I really enjoyed. It was bound to be a train wreck and I hope it wouldn't have been but I really think that Brandi saw right through Kyle and noticed just how often Kyle offered Kim up to the cameras for extended humiliation and shame. Sure Kim is responsible for her own messes but if you look back on the season, you'll notice how intent Kyle is on forcing a public dialogues, public conversations. Showing her dismay with Kim at a full table of people or at a party or gathering. I get that Kim misbehaved and made poor decisions but what I didn't understand was that Kyle more often than not BROUGHT ATTENTION to it and would also make it a point to confront Kim about it knowing damn well she wasn't going to get anywhere. Kyle has no problems taking digs at her sisters when she's around her friends. Setting up a filmed sit down where she cries and begs understanding of what could possibly justify the treatment she receives from them. Ugghhh, it's all so manipulative and as much as there's a narrative saying Kathy is also manipulative I don't get the same energy. To me, I feel like Kim and Kathy treat Kyle like the sister role she plays and they both know it. Kyle's the woe is me sister, that's done so much but wants everyone to believe that her sisters don't see that and mistreat her when I don't see that at all. I do see the 3 way dysfunction and what I also see is Kathy and Kim not treating their family dynamic as something specific to just one of them. I think they all know they have their sibling shit but to me Kyle is the only one who seems to wear it like a costume and then parade it out as something that is directed at her. And the kicker is I don't believe she believes that narrative either. I think she's on the same page as her sisters about their dynamic. Basically it's a roller coaster but for the show I really truly believe Kyle spins it and wears it and cherry picks stuff then SHARES IT (with co-wives) in order to deliver a pretty meaty Richard sister take on family dsyfunction all for the show. At any expense and at all costs. That's why I'll never shed any tears for Miss frog cry. And why, when I see either of her sisters react to her with a knowing look and a simple K-Y-L-E.... I won't see it as something menacing. I see it as them trying to shut down Kyles theatrics and her attempt at making them look bad.

I agree that a big part of the disconnect with Jason is that he’s older than them and has life experience. It looked like he was kinda trying to jive with them and wasn’t initially avoiding them or being standoffish but Mzi and Courtney, especially together are hella childish. I would probably have silent moments and just look at them weird as well cause they think they are funny but they are not. I mean it’s cute cause they aren’t meaning any harm but it’s like they really think they are so cool and I find them a bit lame. Last season it didn’t bug at all cause the whole deck crew was kinda lame and filled with odd ducks so it was endearing but with Jason on board and Storm (who fits the bill) but who is stressing with his responsibilities as bosun it’s just not coming across as lighthearted fun. Dont get me wrong I thought their antics last season were eyeroll worthy too (Mzi dropping Courtney and smashing his face on the payment 🙄) but the dynamic of the deck somehow smoothed some of that out somewhat so it was bearable to watch if that makes sense. I think that it’s not lost on Jason that Storm isnt really qualified for the job Mzi is still a bit green and this is Courtney’s first season on deck so it’s a bit ridiculous to point fingers at Jason like he’s the weak link. I think Jason isn’t gonna bend over backwards since it’s obvious that being qualified isn’t exactly a requirement and although he did have a couple of hiccups he’s actually no worse than Mzi who, is it just me, but does he not stand around a lot not doing anything? I’ve noticed that Mzi will be standing with the deck crew as they are doing something and will be idle until someone points out to him to participate in the task. Like he zoned out or something or like he needs step by step instruction. Anyway, I think Jason is capable but I’d also be a little put off by the idea that I need to cater to the childish dynamics of the others in order to “fit in” better. I’d scoff too and that’s why you hear Jason say something about he’s not gonna change his personality. Jason’s not being managed well even though Storms approach was pretty good. Add that the rest of the deck crew are allowing their tension affect how they received Jason doesn’t help. In all honestly y’all don’t need to be best friends. Just don’t take it personal and let it roll of your back. If Jason wants to sit and eat a salad let him eat a salad. I do think Storm had it right when he said let Jason have the day off. That he will address matters when they are back at work during an appropriate time. Holy Moly! The first time someone has decided not to address work issues while drinking and during their downtime, fun time. Storm gets serious kudos from me for that. Most definitely!

I loooooooooveeeee Garcelle but for me she does have a quality that bugs me. She leaves things alone too easily… now before anyone comes at me with well she knows not to get too deep into any conversation or else she play right into their hands sometimes I feel like she stops way too short tho. So that’s the only thing I would love to see her get a little better at. Sometimes you gotta just go all in and put your foot down extra obvious. But for the most part I’m so extremely impressed and happy with Garcelle.

Notice how Kyle was delivering most of the dialogue. Kim was trying to stay disengaged knowing that it was not going to lead to anything good and Kyle is sitting there inventing a conversation. Kim’s quiet and of course responding minimally and Kyles annoyed by this cause she’s not getting Kim to blow up and take the conversation where Kyle wants it to go. Kim’s just sitting there and Kyle drops her bomb about mom dying having to worry about Kim and dropped everything on kyles shoulders. To me it seemed extra obvious that Kyle wanted a blow up and wanted a set up for the big reveal. Like I said before Kyles been dying to unpack a lot of stuff and she came in hot that first season then realized that as raunchy as reality TV is it still wasn’t gonna be her vehicle to do all that unpacking without some serious backlash. She had to slow her roll and learned how to dish it out in doses. It’s still a gamble but she’s not as gung ho it should I say reckless as she was in season one when she didn’t understand they she couldn’t go all in Real World style. Ugghhhhhh. Kyles agenda has been so obvious since the very first season. At least to me anyway. EXACTLY!!!

I noted how I believe that all three sisters have no doubt hurled insults, gone below the belt, yada yada, yada. I guess my main gripe with Kyle and why I find her the most distasteful out of the three is because I get the vibe from her that she is in favor of these dysfunctions being revealed on the show. She's got a lot of unpacking she desperately wants to do but of course she knows that would be going too far so instead she runs hot and cold on the show with her sisters and drinks in as much sympathy that comes her way. She's a product of the family dysfunction so it is what it is. She just seems to want to wallow in it deeper and longer and my thing is either find healing or let it go. How she has chosen to handle it does none of them any favors. Maybe the sisters are at each others throats behind the scenes all the time but Kyle was the one that felt like pulling back the curtain was the way to go and after so many years on this show and how much its affected her relationship with her sisters I'm just tired of seeing her still sabotaging it with her own very obvious antics. I'm always asking myself why Kyle, why?

My point was that Brandi didn't go on these campaigns against Kyle that go on for episodes and episodes. It was more of a direct interaction that involved Kim. Brandi was trying to look out for her friend and call Kyle out and that was pretty much the jist. Did the display get distasteful and cross some boundaries? I guess but Rinna is a whole other level of manipulator when it comes to creating a narrative like a patchwork quilt and then draping it out like a plush red carpet. Theatrics and cliffhangers and trailers and hollywood screams complete with horror film music. Brandi put herself somewhere she probably didn't need to and that was her own fault and it played out the way it played out. Rinna's antics are straight to DVD bad writing.

I'm so sick of that narrative. To be honest I truly believe that Kyle is the worse one of the three. She's conniving, manipulative and calculating and this is towards her own family. The other two are flawed no doubt about that but they just try to live their flawed lives and keep it moving. Kyle needs to find a bus, load the bus, map out a road trip, turn the cameras on, fire up her friends and then proceed to drag them under the bus for the duration of the trip. I trust Kyle as much as I trust Michael Myers death certificate!

Yeah, from across the limo. Kyle had to take a few STEPS to reach Kim so Kim's finger wagging really doesn't compare to the leap Kyle made from the other side of the limo to get at Kim. That's funny.

Exactly! These three are cut from the same cloth so the sooner they cut the crap with each other and just accept they all have big feelings that get in the way sometimes the sooner they can start living their later years as a happier family. Just saying. But yeah, I'm still wondering what was so triggering for Kyle that she had to force herself in the limo and make such a revelation. Kim was trying to disengage and Kyle was NOT going to let that MOMENT slip by her. It's the cornering Kim on camera that was always suss to me. Kyle really was NOT allowing Kim to get away. Family resentment is a real thing and I get it but to be so adamant to get the moment filmed was where Kyle lost me.

One thing that I don't doubt about these sisters is that they can be NASTY!!! I have no doubt that hurling insults and going below the belt is well within that family dynamic. What continues to be mindblowing to me is that it constantly pops up as some sort of relevant "GOTCHA" moment throughout the course of this franchise. Poor wittle Kyle gets picked on and mistreated by her sisters... I'm so over this need to infantilize Kyle when we have seen OVER and OVER again how Kyle can dish it out just as badly and then some. Not only that but we get snippets of these behaviors straight from the miniature horses mouth when she shares details about how they've fought in the past. Uggghhhhh. These castmates still trying to make "battered and bruised Kyle" happen is just so friggin' old!!

DING, DING, DING, DING!!!!!!

ALL. OF. THIS.

To be fair Brandi didn't go on a whole campaign against Kyle. She had her issues with Kyle and of course there was no love lost but in the moments where Brandi was being there for Kim it was usually in the moment and in real time. It was usually during an actual disagreement Kim was having with Kyle that Brandi was right there to see. And I remember on at least two separate occasions where Brandi's involvement was mainly her trying to remove Kim from an escalating situation. Brandi ended up getting slack for that. Look I am totally against outside factors interfering with my family issues however Brandi spoke up here and there in defense of Kim and shared what her observations about Kyle's treatment of her during an ongoing interaction the sisters where having in front of her/them. Rinna isn't speaking up for Kyle during some group discussion bad mouthing Kyle or during a disagreement Kyle and Kathy are having in her presence. No, Rinna is creating this whole narrative surrounding who Kathy is, as a person, as a sister, as a friend using information that may or may not be true and she's created this whole scandalous backdrop of evil, deception and chaos with absolutely no provocation. Witnessing someone have a terrible tantrum and ragefest means what to the world exactly? Kathy cursed out Kyle in her rant. And? Stop the presses!! Give me a break! I'm reminded of Lisa's limo ride with Kim where she claims to have witnessed Kim fall off the wagon and she was so traumatized by Kims erratic and disturbing behavior. Rinna turned that one limo ride into a way to go after Kim because of how distraught and frazzled she came across during her retelling of that experience to Eileen. Somehow, Rinnas confusion about why Kim was behaving weirdly was somehow turned into Kim mistreating Rinna and so it was allowed to come out in conversation as "holding Kim accountable" for what she did. Like huh? Okay even if she was high. How does that turn into her having to atone for it with Rinna and the group? Sound familiar? Now she's trying to pull the same bullshit on Kathy. Man, Rinna's a lying Rinna who Rinna's!!!

The fact that Kyle keeps allowing “friends” to get between her and her sisters or allow them to take aim using her as the poor victim has always been the first thing that stood out to me and made me very weary of Kyle. Sure they have their toxic sibling relationship but constantly invites outside input into her issues with them. It’s one thing to have friends support the trials and tribulations of having these unhealthy family relationships it’s another thing have people coming after your family using their slights against you as their ammunition. Maybe that’s why we’ve heard Kyle that Kyle has taken all the blame at the reunion. Maybe she understands where she’s fallen short with regards to creating boundaries between her “friends” them trying to take down her family. I have plenty of friends that know the ins and out of what my family dynamic is like and have shared plenty of sob stories where they have felt for me however they also know that under NO CIRCUMSTANCE are you gonna use that to pick a fight or call them out. No ma’am! Feel how you want about that very real reality but you ain’t got permission from me to do that shit just cause I cried on your shoulder. Most people only go through with something like that cause they believe they have the “injured parties” blessing but that’s why you make it a point to correct the misunderstanding right away and well Kyle isn’t one to make those lines clear and when she finally does it’s usually some meek, woe is me, “I have no choice” decision that still lets her grab all the sympathy. We will see how her “taking the blame” comes across during the reunion. I’m guessing it’s still gonna leave people thinking Kyle has Stockholm syndrome and that’s why she’s owning up to whatever she’s owning up to. 🙄

I'm more inclined to think it's because Kyle and Kim are closer in age, they grew up together and they know each other well. Who else but Kyle would understand what Kim has faced and vice versa? My sister and I are 13 years apart and didn't grow up in the same home but my brother and I did. We have a more sibling connection and I know him in a way that my sister doesn't. That probably played a big part in their mother asking Kyle to protect Kim.

My thing is that Jamie went way over the top because he creative a narrative in his head that was incorrect. When Aesha came into the room and say Hey Bitch he reacted to her rather intensely and I'm guessing he combined Aesha saying it to him with Brittini saying it before instead of treating it as its own occurrence. I think it was pure coincidence that Aesha randomly blurted it out cause that's the way Aesha is playful. I'm also annoyed with Jamie because it seems like every occurrence of that word being uttered to him he took it as another strike against Brittini when in fact she did it that first time only and the rest of it came from the other two. Aesha was the one that egged Magda on in the van not Brittini. I can't remember but did the Captain talk to Brittini and Aesha about it or just Brittini and again I can't recall but did Jamie even mentioned Aeshas name too cause I feel like Brittini called the most heat for it and she only did it that one time. Jamie is petty and I really think that he mainly blamed the whole thing on Brittini. I'm guessing that each time it happened after Brittini said it at dinner Jamie processed it as Brittini orchestrating each of those occurrences hence why he came down so hard on Brittini and that wasn't fair at all. Plus he was wrong.

Mother AND sister. Niece came into my life when I was 10 and I was her main caregiver while my mom was out drinking and my sister was in the streets doing crack sooooooo.... My mother got better, not perfect but better and my sister got her daughter back eventually. The blanket claim that people who find fault with how Kyle decides to handle her particular circumstances "just don't have experience with this sorta thing" is pretty hokey to me but whatevs.

A- Over the course of all the seasons it has been expressed. I'm also including other cast members (including Kyle) when I make this point and at different points throughout all the seasons. B- Plenty of people have over the course of the show. So it does happen. C- Kyle's pulled off her martyr act swimmingly at certain points so she has won praise (and again I include her castmates in this observation). D- Agreed, and my position is that I find it distasteful for any one of them to try and claim a bigger cross to have beared over the other two and Kyle tends to be the bigger culprit of this behavior. So thats what sticks out to me. Having it happen now with Kathy just confirms how much of a pattern this seems to be for Kyle.

I think it’s funny that although it’s pointed out that Kyle also plays victim the animosity still lies with Kim. My thing is that I’m sick of the whole Richards sister tragedy being imbalanced. I’ve come to recognize that theirs is a family dynamic unique to them and they ALL play a part. When the narrative tries to assign fault to this one that one the other two is what bothers me. Kyles not my favorite cause she plays up to that. Since day one she’s tried to carve out a separate narrative for herself instead of embracing that ALL THREE OF THEM have valid traumas. She wants to stand out as the one that took the brunt of an alcoholic sister and an overbearing sister instead of just being one of three sisters that had unfortunate experiences growing up. Kim has outlined her troubles just as much as Kyle whines about hers so to me it’s a wash. To extend grace to one but not the others when they all experienced the upbringing of big Kathy has always been something of a puzzle for me. Feel sorry for Kyle for how she was raised but admonish Kim cause she didn’t make it out as “balanced” as Kyle? I don’t know. It never sat right with me that Kim’s addiction was held against her as harshly as it was. Whereas Kyle deserves all the roses for being such a “trooper”. And now we see that Kathy is about to be held accountable for her sins for being the older sister thats “towered” over Kyle and made her feel less than. I dunno. Kyle being the stand out “underdog” out of THREE sisters that were subjected to the same mothers toxicity seems a bit unfair to me and yet this narrative keeps presenting itself time and time again. Ehhh, I’m over it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Jason does has his faults but I have to say the whole polish thing was so weird to me. They show on the screen that its an hour and 15 minutes til they are picking up guests and that's when Storm passes by Jason telling him to polish. Doesn't go into much detail and pretty much does a drive by of instruction. We also see that Jason is in the middle of what looks like an involved task. 15 minutes later Storms speaking with Sandy and she's explaining the 2 anchor situation. Not that long after we see him explaining the same to MZI and then we see Jason assisting him with lowering the anchor. Now I can't recall exactly but that puts us at around half hour until guests board. Jason still has to put on his whites and we did see him polishing. Which we learn later he didn't realize Storm wanted him to polish outside cause we saw him polishing somewhere indoors. Storm gets aggravated at around 25 minutes til Guest pick up and starts polishing him self which means it was only 50 minutes from when he initially asked Jason to do the polishing. Jason had to finish what he was doing (I think he was working with the fenders) then he got pulled away to help with anchor and then went to get his whites on. Jason has been a pain when it comes to some of the communication with Storm but this situation was not really all on him. Plus, I don't understand why Jason would polish the area that Storm was talking about while they were still moving. The spray of the water and the mist in the air would have made the task pointless. I mean it's the reason why they have to polish again after leaving the dock. duh so that would mean that Jason wouldn't have been able to polish until the anchors were dropped and we saw that happen around 30-35 minutes before guest arrival. I like Storm but he seems to be one of those try hards that thinks running yourself ragged is the sign of a good worker. I've said this multiple times through my worklife. "I understand the need for urgency but I will not tolerate frantic" or in short "I don't do frantic" LOL. meaning I'll get the job done and I'll put some hustle in my groove as needed but what you're not going to do is invent some frantic, false, exaggerated importance on the timing of a task because you think that everything needs to be done at some super lighting speed to show as evidence of me doing my job. And I can't stand the ones that agree with the sentiment cause they want to kiss the bosses ass. I understand that jobs require time management and the such but unnecessary scrambling just because you want to get a job done in 10 minutes when 15-20 is just as acceptable for the task at hand with a particular timeframe allotted is not gonna rock with me. If there's no need for me to be huffing and puffing at the end of a task then I ain't about to go into hyperventilation cause you think sweating bullets and breathing hard is a sign of a good employee. Nah, life's too short.

I feel like people always missed the point Kim was trying to make when she made that reference. It's usually taken too literally. I remember watching the episode and completely understanding what Kim was trying to say immediately. Kim was just trying to make an example about how Kyle had friends and was more exposed to being with friends, having opportunities at being social by doing typical teenage stuff. The whole makeup thing is a pretty lame example to make but I took it as Kim trying to point out that Kyle is better at socializing because her teenage experience was different than hers. Considering that Kim did work more I'm betting a lot of her time was spent on sets, having tutors and playing with the other child actors in the area which is not the same. Add that Kim seems to be socially awkward in general just highlights that Kyle has more of the advantage in social situations. Kim was trying to get Kyle to sympathize with her about why she was asking her to help her a bit more when it came to interacting with the other women. Besides Kyle was the bridge after all so it would make sense that Kyle be the one to do a little bit of introducing and handing holding until her sister was on better footing with Kyle's friends. The whole scene was just about Kim wanting Kyle to understand that Kim isn't as well versed as Kyle is with regards to making new friends and socializing. I also found it pretty weird that Kyle didn't already understand this is how her sister is and wasn't already prepared to do a little handholding. I mean, I would do it for my sister unless of course I'm a bitch and think that it's too much to ask to help my sister break the ice with my own friends. I mean that seems more weird to me than Kim asking Kyle to be a little sympathetic and helpful when it comes to such a simple request. That interaction put me on alert with Kyle. That's when I first sensed some serious mean girl vibes coming from Kyle. It was her exaggerated exasperation and utter "fake" confusion about what Kim was going on about as if she hasn't grown up with this girl. I called BS right from the get. Anyway, all the nonsense that Kyle is now pulling with Kathy just reeks of same ole same ole. I'm also tired of the poor Kyle martyr narrative. I hate how she behaves badly but then wants to fall back on the "I'm also getting blamed for stuff and it's not fair". No you get blamed for giving in to catty mean girl behavior. I don't want to hear after the fact that the reason you gave in to being a nasty bitch is cause you're always the this that or the other. She really tries to paint it as if she's different from the other two, that she has fulfilled some altruistic sister role for the benefit of the other two and the other two constantly treat her poorly. I'm so sick of that boring old story. All three of them have experienced trauma at the hands of their mother and most likely at the hands of each other. The fact that Kyle constantly tries to claim the "worse off" sister title by throwing the other two under the bus either subtly (Kathy) or blatantly, tire marks and all (Kim) is why I don't like Kyle. I run hot and cold season to season cause when she's not being hella messy she can be fun and funny but it's never too long before she's pulling her mean girl antics and hiding her hands so I usually end up rolling my eyes. The way I see it sure Kyle has grievances but so do the other two. Kyles the only one that's willing to put it up for intense public debate while the other two want to be their fuck up selves and keep it moving. Kyle wants to be her fucked up self but in the guise of the bruised one while trying to expose shit. Why does the topic of "the mistreatment of Kyle at the hands of her sisters" continuously rears its head? Look, I don't doubt that there is some seriously wacked out sister dynamics. I don't believe any of them are saints but Kyle is the only one that seems to run full steam ahead at exposing these cracks. I feel like she constantly tries to create conflict by picking at threads she knows will unravel and she's more than happy to be armed with a camera crew for when it happens. That's the part that I find totally distasteful about Kyle. I really wanted to like Kyle. I was so excited when this franchise started and I found out that Kyle and Kim Richards were going to be on. I was actually more excited about Kyle because I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Little House on the Prairie which is my favorite show of all time so I was absolutely tuning in for Kyle. Such a disappointment however I was able to separate her from the show rather quickly since she wasn't really a main character for too long. Along she had a moderately significant role as Mr. Edwards daughter her character stopped appearing after only a couple of seasons. Anyway, ever since I came to terms with that disappointment I just categorized this franchise with the rest. Now I just see Kyle as Kyle and have reduced my caring about her behavior down to a tsk tsk mentality. It's just such a shame she's such a distasteful person to others and especially to family. EXACTLY!

I mean it’s just that painfully obvious. It’s crazy how it’s lost on some including Kyle. Well then again Kyle feigns confusion so it really isn’t lost on her. Let’s not forget that Rinna went in pretty hard on her other sister Kim and as we all know Kathy ain’t big about shit like that so I wouldn’t be surprised if Rinna is alway on thin ice when it comes to Kathy but ya know Kathy plays nice for Kyles sake so Rinna pulling that shit while Kyle just stands by and allows it without a peep (just like with Kim)……??? Shhhhyyyytt, the hellish rant towards Kyle that supposedly happened sounds about right to me actually. 🤷🏻‍♀️