Capricasix

“No squeezy! Bad baby” 🤣

Only Luke and Grogu could see his face, though. He had his back turned to Bo-Katan, Fennec, Cara, and Koska.

I saw that too, but didn’t know that A&W was Canadian only.

Shades of the movie Arrival (which I loved and will henceforth watch anything Denis Villeneuve directs). “And it got similar reactions at our house, where I said Benneton was in the other wing down by the Hahne's. “ I remember Benetton being popular when I was in high school in the Dark Ages *ahem* the 1980s 😄

That would detract from the focus of the show, though. The showrunners are pretty clear that it’s about relationships and love, not about the how and the why of the apocalypse.

“No, I have not gone duck-hunting…you fucking hillbilly” 🤣🤣🤣 And Boyd Holbrook? So pretty 😍

I was thinking, “I hope she has matches so that she can sterilize that thing!” 😬😄

She did say that, yes, you’re right. I think she said that she, Marlene, had put Ellie in the FEDRA orphanage when she was a baby (I’ve watched the first ep five times, you’d think I would remember 😄). Which means that she would have known even then. So now I’m wondering if they recruited Riley for the sole purpose of luring Ellie 🤔

I just finished watching Quo Vadis, Aida? directed by Jasmila Zbanic, who directed this episode. It’s absolutely gut-wrenching - based on a true story, the 1995 massacre of 8000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys in Srebrenica. The Dutch soldiers of the UN Protection Force, who were tasked with protecting the safe zone in and around Srebrenica, basically stood by and let it happen.

There was an outbreak (maybe even an epidemic) of mad-cow disease in the UK in the 1990s, I think? And whole herds of cattle, even healthy ones, had to be slaughtered to stop the spread.

So, hmm…maybe the wheat was contaminated in Australia, but the higher temperatures/warmer climate in Indonesia triggered the mutation 🤔 Indonesia is closer to the equator than Australia and must have at least a subtropical, if not tropical climate. I’m glad others think about this stuff as much as I do 😄

One more thing I noticed in this ep, and it’s physical, non-verbal acting again, is that Joel occasionally rubs his right hand as if it still hurts. Of course, that’s the hand he used to beat the crap out of the FEDRA guard in the first episode. I’d be interested to know if that was purely Pedro, or the director, or both. Also, the podcast mentioned that ths episode was directed by a woman who had grown up in the former Yugoslavia, I believe in Sarajevo, during the war there in the 1990s. They approached her about directing the Kansas City episodes, and she said that she really wasn’t interested in revisiting that scenario, but she wanted to direct the episode showing that civilization was still possible even among the horrors of the pandemic. Living, not just surviving.

@Daisychain Yes, it was Craig’s daughter. It may even be the same daughter who sang the cover of Never Let Me Down Again from the end of this episode.

Did I mention yet how much I love this show? 😄 I’m rewatching this episode, and I just thought that there’s very little that’s random in every episode - Mazin and Druckmann have ensured that almost everything is purposeful. And so much of the action is nonverbal. Example: after J&E have their meal in the dining hall in Jackson, Tommy and Maria give them a tour of the town. Joel asks how they keep the place quiet, and one of the things Maria says is “we stay off the radio”. Joel gives Tommy a Look, and Tommy looks back sheepishly. I missed this the first time round, but it says so much without using any words at all.

😉 Hell, they even had alcohol on the Nebuchadnezzar in the Matrix! Good for getting drunk and degreasing engines 😄

I wouldn’t even have noticed if I hadn’t seen it pointed out 😄

It almost sounds like Sophie’s Choice. In the abstract, it would be easy enough to say that a mother would choose her partner over her kids because they could always have more kids. Realistically, though, I don’t know any mother who wouldn’t sacrifice herself to save her children.

That’s interesting - I was 34 when I had my second child, and I’m glad they didn’t call mine a geriatric pregnancy 😄 And that was in 2005!

I friggin love this show. I’m always thinking about it. I was listening to the podcast while driving a few minutes ago, and it occurred to me that Joel reminds me of Stu Redman from The Stand (I developed a huge crush on Gary Sinise after watching that). Stu and Joel are both from Texas, albeit East Texas in Stu’s case; they’re roughly the same age although I think Joel’s a bit older; and they both have to make their way across the US after a pandemic. They’re both good with their hands (this is not the place for fanfiction Capricasix STOP IT RIGHT NOW) and can look after themselves and others in the outdoors. Also, Joel and Ellie are a clan of two 🥲

Thomas had never seen such a mess!

I mean, he’s no Leonardo DiCaprio 🤷🏽‍♀️😄 (and thank dog for that!) Edited to add that I haven’t listened to it yet, but I’ve read on social media that the HBO podcast revealed that Pedro ad-libbed Joel’s speech in the scene with Tommy. Even more reason why he deserves an Emmy! (I mean, he deserves one just for being incredibly hot, but they don’t seem to have a category for that 😡😄) Serial editing to add - after listening to the relevant part of the podcast, I learned that Craig Mazin wrote most of it but Pedro ad-libbed the line about waking up and feeling like Joel lost something, and all he’s ever done is fail her, again and again 🥺 (I feel like he’s also talking about Sarah and Tess, not just about Ellie)

She’s 14. Teenagers, especially young ones, love to say things that they think are shocking to adults around them. She’s testing her limits like many teenagers do. This does not mean that there’s some kind of inappropriate tension between them.

Oh, OK. I thought it was a variation on a potluck or something like that 😄 Thanks!

Please to explain what is a Potbelly lunch?

I remember a line in the first book, when James and Siegfried met for the first time, that specifically references Siegfried and Tristan’s parents’ love for Wagner. That had to have been pure dramatic licence, considering Siegfried’s name IRL was Donald 😄