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I have forgotten my 1983 hair. Thankfully so. Many run of the mill hauntings are like a Groundhog Day hologram type where it seems to be a stuck moment in energy/time. There would be spirits that would seek to take the form of someone familiar. Some of the 'haunting' may have been the young girls' projections, some abuse in the family that was subconsciously buried and took the form of the spirit. Overly sheltered girls, a disapproving and controlling male figure in their lives. A kindly ghost who makes tea and puts out the slippers each evening wouldn't attract many viewers.

I probably would have phrased the hounds from Hell or the dark rolling in as asking about any weird power issues or noises. The neighbours may not have been home, and people just don't care and don't really notice anything unless it affects *them*. Maybe a street light flickered out for a couple of minutes - as they do when they are burning out. Tonight's ep was a bit creepy. I did feel that Deborah kept Poppy around - she seemed to want his approval. He did seem a bit controlling from the get-go and had no real business in his granddaughter's life or her life/career/boyfriend choices. I'm surprised that the burned house was not bulldozed and the land cleared. I don't know why folks always turn to a priest and that the priest believes far too quickly and readily and there is no investigation. I believe you and here is a Bible and some Holy water. Sprinkle it and say a few prayers. Yeah, that works every time - with a lot of repeats. Smudging can also clear out some energies. I didn't see when this occurred and it seemed like around 20 or so years ago.

Ben has two wins this season. This week's creation was not a good look. Evan's last looks touch-up saved him and gave him the win. It kinda reminded me of a pinkish Darth Maul. Nora again was consistent, put things in that were unexpected (the barbed wire), fulfilled the challenge, was gracious towards the judges and appreciated their feedback and compliments. The face with the metal parts was cool, even though I didn't quite get it. My imaginings of the Four Horsemen involved them being a bit more majestic and commanding.

If I was a prospective contestant, and if I applied without having much knowledge of the show, I would certainly look at the show's website and see what is done each season. Watch a few episodes. I would apply knowing that there may be a beauty challenge and that it would be in my best interest to develop some skills in that area. Monsters will pay only some of the bills. It would take at least a few years to develop a good well-rounded portfolio. And a few more years after that to be able to start your own company and do what you want to do.

If I found the creepy doll on the toilet, with underwear down (and no evidence that it wasn't some practical joke), it would be a bonfire/wienie roast material in no time. I don't know if the spirit was attracted to the fabric in the doll's attire (maybe it was old), the young girls living in the home (poltergeist as latent psychokinetic ability). I have a nice, heavy rolling pin in my stove's broiler. It would do the job nicely. I also have a hammer stashed there too. The doll wasn't pretty. The fixed eyes were creeping me out.

I was thinking it was a huge apartment style condo building with 200+ units. Did the neighbour have a pet who may have inadvertently turned on the TV? Or had some sort of alarm on his TV or entertainment unit? That would come on at a weird time? Or a friend who would come over and put the TV on? A friend without a vehicle? I live in a condo duplex. I can hear the neighbours' footsteps but I do wonder if they are wearing shoes or boots that will cause me to hear them. I have carpet in my livingroom and they have laminate flooring. They also have a medium size dog. Any chance that the realtor had a friend who might 'borrow' the unit above? Any neighbours on either side or behind your unit? Did you ever ask to see the unit? That maybe the previous owners left something behind, or you could ask a friend to be a prospective buyer and arrange a viewing? Tag along at the surprise of your friend coming to the building! :) Was it a noticeable pattern? Something that occurred every day at the same time? Did you document things? At least you're gone. And not wondering 'why me'?

It was 1982. Surely the family had a camera and could have snapped photos of the doll and photos of the mess in the home. Maybe not until after a few things occurred. You do want to rule out reasonable explanations. I wondered why there wasn't an interview with the priest - but it was 30 years ago and he may be deceased. I did attribute the seance to what would have realistically occurred at that time.

For the past few seasons, I have wondered about some of the Face-testants' life experiences. Being fed on the current crop of schlocky horror movies, you do not see much whimsy or other types of makeup used in non-monster films. You would expect some understanding of current pop culture and the liberal arts. Plus have some knowledge of costume and makeup history. If someone is good with makeup, places like Sephora would be fantastic. Lots of opportunities for beauty make ups and dealing with all sorts of clients. Or volunteering your love of makeup at local hospitals. Working with people going through cancer and other illnesses would be great. As would volunteering or working at local theatres. Maybe many working opportunities are based in horror and monster movies these days so you do what the industry asks and do not get much opportunity to acquire a broad-based skill set.

I would have set the doll on fire in the garbage can and watch it burn. Part of me did wonder if it was Poltergeist activity.

Streetheart's Under My Thumb cover. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jEn7TfjxZRw

All of the bottom three could have been eliminated. Was happy to,see that Nora won. She listens, she is consistent, and doesn't bring any drama. Sees a problem and finds a fix. She may find success in the industry.

Could the sound be from another unit? Sound can travel. Depends on the age of the building, wood or concrete construction, venting, etc. I lived in a high rise where I would hear music and other loud noise, but it did not come from next door or above me. It was above me and a couple of units over.

Maybe he hoped that someone in Hollywood would take an interest and turn his fight for his house into a movie.

A bit of the book is available on Google Books. No one can put a curse on another person. The only way such a 'curse' will work is through the power of suggestion. It seems far too convenient that a Native American put a 'curse' on the house. Many fortune tellers bilk their clients out of outrageous sums of money to remove some 'curse'. The curse is usually on the client's wallet. I did question the 'intuitive's' claims. Visions are very real. She put her own spin/opinion on what they meant. She only seemed to work with the priest. Ideally, one should be objective - and that takes a lot of time and discipline to not let your opinions and projections get in the way. The Cranmer (corrected spelling) case seemed to go from the intuitive to the priest to Cranmer and is subject to much interpretation as it would be third-hand information by that time. Too dangerous for the priest to check out the 'haunting'? Come on. The intuitive could have also spent time with Cranmer and visited the house herself. Get a second opinion from a 'psychic' who is 'cold' and doesn't know anything about the house and wouldn't be likely to feed what the client wants to hear. Buddhists believe in reincarnation. Most teens do listen to music that the parents wouldn't necessarily approve. Good for them for not listening to music's lowest common denominators. The whole story just seemed fishy. I would probably think that the first jello puddle on the floor would be one of the kids leaving a mess. A second puddle would result in me looking at the ceiling/attic, and/or calling in a handyman or other construction type person to check out the attic/roof for leaks. At that point, I would start to take photos and look for someone who could tell me about the 'puddle's' contents. Of course, I am open to many possibilities but would like to rule out the simplest of explanations first.

I looked up the story during a commercial break. Another 'haunted' house, another book. Exploiting the house to make a buck. The writing on the wall (under the wallpaper) reminded me of a Dr. Who episode - "Blink". No angel statues. Drat. Or time travel. Double drat. I was also reminded of a "Sleepy Hollow" episode with a Molech. I wanted to see home video footage, or even camera photos - of the blood running down the wall, of the light cord wrapped around the light - before and after. With the goopy stuff on the floor, it would be so easy to take it to a University to get it looked at - maybe some chemistry students would like a challenge in the lab. Call in some independent investigators. Have family and friends who visit tell of their experiences. Odd the priest didn't set foot in the house. Doubtful that many churches would be chomping at the bit to investigate a haunted house or some other entity. There would be some sort of investigation and assessment of mental health and other issues before any sort of exorcist would be sent. It shouldn't be *that* easy - one session and the demon or entity is gone. Doubt it works that way any more. Why wasn't the furnace replaced after the Cramners moved in? Yes, it's old, but with the $30,000 the family saved on the purchase price, a new modern furnace could have been purchased. Were the previous owners affected by any of what happened to the Cramners?

I was a TWOP poster (different name - Playzonwords). I just recently signed up here. Thought it was odd that the 'realtor' just pulled out the house file and showed pictures of the house. Why didn't they visit the house before they moved in? Before signing the lease? No guarantee that the picture actually matches the property! They would have seen the double locks and may have asked why. Or figured that maybe the house was shared previously and that the roomie just wanted to lock the door. A bit odd that there weren't any neighbours, nosy or otherwise. They may have known something about the home - maybe that there were lots of renters! Doubt many people would think that young, college students would be 'haunted'. An older home, with history, active imaginations, seeing shadows, etc. Sleep paralysis, sensitivity to residual energies (i.e. older home). Also would think that the Church deacon would have done a bit more investigating than instantly believing the story and just giving some Holy water. It could have just been regular water, but suggestion (that it will 'clean' up the house) is powerful. Just believing it would work would be enough and the problem would be solved. Maybe he knew the home's history. Who knows. The Internet was working quite well in 2004 and it would have taken a few simple searches to dig up some history on the house or the town. A simple chat with the realtor to get in touch with the home's current owners or a simple search at the town's registry/tax roll may have provided some answers to the home's history.

Have been a lurker for a while. Was a member of TWOP under a different name. Canadian, fan of UK alternative bands. Many of these covers are unknown to North Americans. Manic Street Preachers - Umbrella (the rock version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-wZ5uY0_o Manic Street Preachers - Umbrella (acoustic and unplugged) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDxBXNqWorY Last Christmas (James Dean Bradfield - TFI Friday/WHAM original) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naiYu9KtA4I Manic Street Preachers - Suicide is Painless/Theme from MASH (Top of the Pops) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjBIJXXZRBQ Out of Time - James Dean Bradfield (Jools Holland/Chris Farlowe/Rolling Stones) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_iEkDWgOIs This is the Day - Manic Street Preachers (The The cover) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6_TfAGPqKM