Skycatcher

I will be so glad when this episode airs so we can talk about something besides Caroline!

I suspect Kate will be the exception to the rule because she is crazy smart and very much a survivor. ETA: ....... unless there is truth to the substance abuse issues. Then there's the possibility of addiction issues derailing her.

Think about it. This IS her real world. It's not like there is a smart Caroline and a freaked out Caroline sitting behind the keyboard and when the freaked out Caroline is through playing the smart Caroline will take over. That's not going to happen. What you see is what she's got for better or for worse. Again, all of this is her real world.

I want to add to my remarks above about famewhores. They remind me of politicians and social activists who would show up to the opening of an envelope if there were a camera or press involved, never mind what the issue might be. Pond scum at best. I suspect we tolerate them when they are, for the moment, successful, and of course entertaining, possibly the same thing. Otherwise, piff! What happens to the Kates of that world when their time runs out? They quickly find themselves boarding the bus for a town called Obscurity. They might claw their way back, but never for long. Pathetic.

Once a famewhore, always a famewhore. It's like being born blonde. You can use all the hair color in the world but the roots will always grow in blonde. And a famewhore can sniff out a potential audience on a skunk farm! They have no problem piggy backing on another famewhore's ride to ultimate (hopefully) obscurity.

Now that there is a Carolina thread are we supposed to take the conversation over there?

It would be interesting to see how Riley* treated somebody junior to herself. Heh - "easily-riled Riley*. Cute. * If that's how my cellphone wants to spell the name, so be it. I'm done going back and correcting it.

No sympathy here. They are not "victims". Just by being there they are proven famewhores and get what they deserve/have earned. I am absolutely certain that none of these people had to be dragged, shanghaied, onto the show. And I'm equally sure they knew it wasn't a Hallmark Channel romcom. Most reality TV can be brutal sometimes even violent, even if the violence is staged. ETA: I have to wonder whether Chandler or Caroline's resume would have even gotten them on a normal charter boat. And… if Chandler could get on a normal charter boat I wonder what position he would have been offered. But..... they didn't last out the season. With both Chandler and Carolyn gone what are they going to fill the rest of the episodes with? Short-handed screw-ups with picky guests is only going to last so long, until they get replacements. They still have Riley but that's already gotten old. Love your nic. It actually took me a minute or two to figure out what a two plurker was. Hey, I'm still on my 1st cup of coffee.

Ragging on Caroline, I started feeling like I was kicking a sick dog. I enjoy seeing what nonsense she's tweeted lately, but I can no longer post on her personal challenges in life. From the behavior she's displayed, working on her fishing boats must be a living hell. I cannot imagine a captain who throws a hissy fit every time she thinks someone has disrespected her. "You! Deckhand! Did you just roll your eyes at me? I am the captain and I will not tolerate..... blahblahblah!" Actually it sounds like another Bravo show in the making which I'm sure is what she's hoping for.

Gotcha DrSparkles. I was, of course, speaking of crew responsibilities. If they were my kids there's no way we'd leave the dock without the vests. We'd probably have some pissed off crew members if the vests were back at the dinner area but tough nougies. Boat+kids=vests.

I wondered about that, too. I've never given any thought to whether or not the doors normally lock, whether people have that privacy option or not.

Caroline quit the night before just as everyone was going out to party. Captain should have been informed immediately, that night. Music-gate happened the next morning. As an aside, the rest of the crew was working through the after effects of a late night while Sleeping Beauty had the night off and probably even went to bed early.

If your coworkers are paranoid snowflakes with persecution complexes, and delusions of adequacy yeah, you are being mean! You just don't understand their angst, their pain, their trials and tribulations. They just need a hug. Wait, no, two hugs. Well, two hugs and (sigh) a kind word........or two......or......maybe some ice cream. You should know better!

Just after the martyred Saint Caroline stepped in to bring down the party energy with her dramatic denouement there was a priceless "WTF?" moment. The look on Kate's face said it all. Just after the martyred Saint Caroline told Kate and the Scooby-gang she was giving Kate her "two day," you could see Kate thinking "Your two day? WTF is a two day and why should I give a fuck?" Then as the martyred Saint Caroline, savoring each supposed-to-be-vindicating moment, went on to explain, you could see Kate obviously check out, probably thinking "Oh shit, more drama!" Yeah Caroline, you really showed them, not!

Kate/Caroline - Kate has said in subsequent interviews that she didn't want to bother Captain Lee with the Caroline problem. An eight man crew is already down one and when a second one quits you don't want to BOTHER Captain Lee? Captain Lee has said that he was blindsided by the whole thing and that if he had known he could have done something about it before it blew up in everybody's face. Rhylee - Yeah, with Chandler gone Riley has no place to hide. And I can see that Ross is being extra careful to handle her with kid gloves until her attitude finally wears him down. Adrien - I thought the Unicorn was being particularly passive aggressive with Kate at the water fall. His inner special snowflake is starting to show.

A & E constantly reruns episodes. It's Tuesday night in the 8PM time slot and I'm watching the Emotional Aftermath episode right now. There will be a new ep on at 9, which, if I don't find it on On Demand, I'll probably watch next week at 8 because of a scheduling conflict.

And nobody understands her PAIN!!!!! 🎼🎶Oh.....Nobody knows the trouble I've seen, Nobody knows my sorrow......🎶🎶

Life vests - aside from the safety issue, in an earlier episode, when the family first boarded, Captain Lee gave CLEAR and EMPHATIC orders that the kids were not to EVER, EVER, EVER be outside without the vests. The order was definitive, absolute and left no doubt, except maybe to Chandler? It probably had to do with taking the vans to the dock. Kids don't need life vesfs in vans. IF the lack of vests was noticed at the dock, "somebody" (ahem) probably decided it was too much trouble to go back to the dinner area to pick them up. Just my speculation.

I'm hoping Captain Lee will be hard on him in the next episode!

Where can I find the Below Deck After show? I tried "on demand" but all they have are the regular shows. ETA: Found it. Just Google "Below Decks After Show". There's a series of about 14 vignettes of interviews. Fun.

I saw that and I was surprised that we didn't get to see Captain Lee "dine out" on it but then I figured, production-wise, bloody kid beats seeing Captain Lee chew out Chandler........again. Children on a tender with no jackets? That deserves a royal, first-class, A#1, 5*, take-no-prisoners ass chewing!

The first time I heard primrose used as a given name was the little sister from Hunger Games. They called her Prim for short. Josiah's niece looks to be of an age where her Mom might have been influenced by the movie.

Tips - If everybody is getting an equal amount of tips you've got to know there's other compensation involved in the program. I cannot imagine chief stew Kate getting the same amount of money for the program as screw ups like Caroline. Bosun - If Ross is promoted to bosun and Chandler is demoted does he become the next lower ranking member of the deck crew - #2? That would put him in a position to still give Riley all kinds of grief "translating" orders down the line. OTOH I can't see them demoting him to the least ranking deck member -#4. I'd like to see it but I doubt they do that. Beach clean up - I get that the plot was that the deck crew returned and left Kate and Josiah to clean up all by their lonesome. BUT.......where was the Unicorn, and how did they schlep all that stuff, dishes, tables, etc. back to the boat? Did they have to load it all into a van at the beach, out of a van at the dock, and on to a boat to take it out to the Sienna?

As long as she didn't get in the way of his ice cream! What other place is there for a mere female?

Josiah isn't getting much screen time but he certainly is allowing Kate to shine.