Daisy

nuts. I wanted to see Sonny be read out for filth. Good for Jagger for doing that.

honestly i just handwave this to basically: Tracy stole it to get the 1% stock back and Lucy no longer has control (which always drove her nuts) - and I basically feel that was the main drive. She really doesn't want Deception and Dillion wouldn't want it, Ned wouldn't want it so why not secure it for her granddaughter. I do remember Tracy saying in a prior visit that it took her a long time to get over ELQ and the hold it had on her and she didn't really want to go back down that road (which i figure was real growth on her part there).

but what does age-appropriate clothing even mean? I'm not being facetious here. I am genuinely curious. As I've said beauty (and fashion) are in the eyes of the beholder. Setton and I are around the same age and i like a lot of the blouses and colours that she has. I've always dressed older for my age mostly because i just liked how it looked on my body (Or i just liked the design or whatever). (and again - everyone was dunking on Portia's jumpsuit and i thought it looked really interesting and I thought Brook Kerr was rocking it). So - again really curious what that means to you (or anyone who agrees). like I said, I do agree with you on the love scene thing (though I do also agree w/the person that says that the covid issue could still be an issue) but things like clothing? even if I don't like the outfit, i'm not going to harp on people wanting to be comfortable in what they wear. (because I have to imagine everyone has a say on their wardrobe not just a few people).

i know on a reddit recently that Setton did with the Chase actor that they both don't want to do love scenes because they don't want that "out there". and their kids watching etc.. which i mean. I respect that decision. but in my head i'm like then .... why are you on a soap? that's sort of expected (Imo). so that one just makes me side eye a bit. but whatevs however She does have the right to feel comfortable in her clothing choices. everyone does. I just feel what we might think that isn't fashionable or comfortable it could be for them and their taste. I don't know what she was wearing or anything but i know people got on Brooke for her jumpsuit and i thought it looked decent and comfortable. fashion (like beauty) is in the eyes of the beholder.

Jagger. it's okay if you don't keep Sonny alive. just look the other way. just let him get shot in the head like God, Ian and Claudia intended.

which doesn't matter because the entire town was prepared to buy it back. i feeel when people [not us] here "lose" they think okay. yeah like. she lost Sonny, or she lost the hotel. but I know for me I mean like fundamentally lose. like. at the wedding when Jason set off the bomb? Josslyn shoulda been killed (or she shoulda been harmed by that mobster or something). Willow and Michael should hate Carly for hiding something that big from them. Drew should have cut her out when he found out she lied. and that loss should last for years. and completely change the dynamic of the relationship. I don't think Carly's ever suffered that kind of loss (and I am including Morgan in this because before that, even michael being shot in his damned fat head should have been her come to jesus moment and nope. nada. just #teammob) and everyone lurrves me

and it's really mind boggling that they think this is okay. I always always say it. AMC was all about Erica's drama, but most times people of Pine Valley were never there for it. People constantly clapped Erica back for her divaness, her "it's all about me and mine" attitude, and Erica lost BIG time. the show freaking ends with the love of her life - the big 25+ year romance the show teased for years - walking away from Erica saying he gives zero poops about her or her feelings. and the beauty of this is too - there were times, when Erica was with Opal or Myrtle or whomever, like quiet and alone - where Erica would admit "yeah you know. i messed up and I 100 percent shouldn't have done it." there is no justification, or "people should just accept i did this for a good reason." (yeah in public, but just the fact that erica acknowledged her flaws was good enough for me). people feel that Carly losing Jason and the hotel and is enough and she's lost and i am like no. it's not nearly. not by half. If anything Willow should like be uber duber pissed but it's a-okay that Carly lied. But Nina? DEVIL WOMAN!

SHE DID?! yes Nina. honestly now it just feels that he married Nina because everyone (not named Kristina and Dante). hated him and he was lonely - now people don't hate him and Carly is kinda sniffing his way so he can rectify the situation by hating Nina now. and this is my #1 issue with everything. because Nina "almost" did that - but Carly did do that. Twice. and unlike Donna who would have seen her mother in what? less than a year (if that). Carly was quite happy to let Nina live the rest of her life not knowing she had family out there. the fact that people expect Nina to just be okay with this and "Carly meant well, so why you so mad?" pisses me off. and if Sonny is bringing up the whole "omg you kept me from my family." the thing is - Nina was pushing him to figure it out on his own. this is soapy and everything but the main thing has always been "you made us think he was dead longer and it hurt the kids." cool. true and Avery and Donna were confused when Sonny came back. but as much as it sucks that Nina kept him secret at least when he returned he had his memory so Avery and Donna didn't have to go through the explanation of "yeah your daddy is alive but he doesn't remember you." (NOT to mention. that the only reason he lost his memory and was presumed dead was because Sonny was playing God (again) and murdered Julian and letting his children grow up without THEIR father in their lives. so like just shut up all the time

the fact that his dumb ass said he would be supportive if his kids came up to him and said they wanted to be mob enforcers should shoot any claim that he's a good father. regardless of all of Sonny's faults at least he didn't want his kids involved in "the business"

oh no - it's even better than that. It was more important for him to go to jail because Donna would live with Sonny and Nina. and Carly agreed that would be horrible. both of them suck

nice guy trope? what do you mean?

for sure. like they can never just have Michael be dirty and face repercussions for his craptacular behavior. Chase lied to Michael so Michael can get his son, and Chase is the scum of the earth. Michael lies to Chase so Michael can screw Chase's wife and "it's okay. you wouldn't do this if willow and you didn't REALLY love each other." Michael bribes city officials "it's okay you're just really wanting to protect your family." Michael wants to throw Sonny in prison (to again he didn't even need to set up Dex as a plant he legit could have just gone to Mac and spill ALL THE TEA and now it's like "it's okay because you changed your mind and wanted to protect me." like shut up with this

oh Val. it's okay. Nina doesn't need his attention.

i see. that's when i would have taken my pen, written NINA REEVES in the flourishest flourish that ever flourished and then flounced off.

albeit to be fair... Nina insisted that he go without her. and I think she was fine with it. (but i do get your point). Sonny never really defended her in ways that mattered. honestly like the story was right there. Sonny was just happy to be alive and have a second chance. Carly and her coven were mad that he just didn't go "insta Suit Wearing, Gangster Killing Sonny". i remember (I REMEMBER, SHOW) when Carly and Sonny had a fight, and Sonny flat out said "do you want me to kill Nina?" and Carly had this look on her face as she said "No, that's not what I'm saying." and Michael kept bleating out "you didn't take care of Nina." like. flat out own the fact that you wanted her murdered. so what was Nina served?

easy. wealthy people keep their money by asking other people to spend theirs. (tm: Emily Gilmore, Gilmore Girls)

you know. Considering that AJ & Monica were alcoholics and Alan addicted to painmeds, giving Danny a teen alcoholic storyline would be soo interesting. but then i remember what show this is and so never mind.

I am watching Robin & Patrick scenes right now, and they named their baby Emma Grace. and I know like they probably just flipped in a baby name book and picked what sounded nice. but now it really makes Willow and Michael naming their Baby Amelia Grace just seem so dumb.

so like what? both Danny and Jake know how to just stand there and try to decide if they need to take a poop? like "being jason's son" means nothing unless they mean somehow they inherited the heart he used to have and are super kind and sweet and want to be a doctor and want nothing to do with the mob and death. so yeah i can buy that.

i remember that. she was like "you make me too nice, we can't hang out!" lol

oh if I had a penny for everytime I heard that growing up i'd be a millionaire.

yeah or if we do it's going to be around christmas-ish time instead.

this is basically why i stopped watching. like i can ignore bad writing, mostly bad acting, and all of that, but it's the legit actual gaslighting that was making me go crazy. Nina was full out prepared to keep quiet. (AVA was pushing Nina to call and she said no, she just wanted to keep peace, Willow needed Carly as crazy as that made her). then Carly and Drew kept treating Nina like crap, up until that night at Wyndermere where Nina said I'll stay here, you go do whatever and Carly acted put out of joint and again needled Nina about how no one likes her, loves her, Nelle was crazy and whatever. then Nina pointed out how Carly never had to suffer and always got forgiven and never paid for anything so why the hell was she keeping quiet. Had Carly just treated Nina like a decent human being , does Nina say anything? probably not. but again people wanted Nina to keep this life shattering secret for people who treat her life crap, and willingly do not help her in any way shape or form, don't acknowledge WHY she is pissed off about being treated like crap. and then turn around and go "Nina, why are you cry?" shut up show.

honestly, Carly needs that in her life. (and ultimately, Vicki and Dorian actually did like each other but Dorian never got out of her own way which was fine). this is why i am not "tired of the Granny wars" as most people phrase it - but Nina needs actual literal wins in her tally.

well isn't that really part of grieving? just taking a minute and being Dramah about it. I would basically say that anything she says right now is to be taken with 99 pinches of salt. I mean admittedly. again, I'm not the kind of person who cares about that sort of thing but that's neither here or there, so i am sorry that it does bother you and I can sort of see why it does but i mean. again I think when someone that you care about dies. the Dramah does take over for a bit. and I don't really think it will last that long until she'll want to do something.