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I totally missed the sex comments... anyone care to paraphrase? Her dad looks a lot like my late father. His sad face when she annihilated him for being thoughtful and caring was just cry-worthy. She acted despicably. She is a mass of contradictions. The kicker last night was her conversation with the trainer when she said, "You know me, I can do anything; I do EVERYTHING." Then when standing at the bottom of the staircase, "I am not going to be able to do this. I can't make it to the top. There's no way I am going to be able to do this." 4.5 minutes later she was all, "Boo-yah; I did it FASTER than he said I should! So I got nothing to worry about, y'all!"

She's just making excuse after excuse for why she can't lose weight and dieting "doesn't work" for her. She said that a million times. "It didn't work; it didn't work." She did lose weight before; it's the keeping it off that takes a lot of work.

I think what ethalfreda meant what the interviews, which are taped seemingly from the floorboards, while the Extremely Tall Person sits on what appears to be a footstool designed for toddlers.

Katya's wife is totally neurotic. I think she's going to come unwound once a baby is in the picture. I can't figure out how Lindsay is going to bankroll her facial surgery when she can "barely make ends meet" as an "actress." And yes, the boyfriend is totally disinterested. He really put his thinking cap on when she asked if he'd help her afterwards. then said not if she complained and bitched all the time. He's a peach. She has the most peculiar body type I've ever seen. Her torso is like a refrigerator . But she does have really nice legs. She needs to hide the side-boob somewhat (although she said that was what she was aiming for with her boob job- and now wants more?!) Her shirts barely cover her breasts.

I'm getting a little tired of the poor grammar of these people. Zach is the worst culprit. Last night he said, "Him and me used to play soccer together." I think Tori needs to get him a little educated.

"parmeegian cheese". With all the producers around her, and the fact that people use the word "parmesan" all over the place, she still can't pronounce it?! (And I wonder what's in her "great spaghetti"?)

That restaurant is in Kona, right? I've been there too, and it is TINY. I remember the little dining room well, and I'm surprised they fit the whole family in there. I imagine it was a good place to stuff them all in and not have to consider getting permission from other diners to have their faces on reality TV. I'm sure they had to have it closed for the Browns to be there.

The disturbing thing about King Kody is the irrational outbursts and/or pout sessions, followed by the PC patter: "ohh, this may be the last time we are all together as a family; I need to savor these sweet moments," etc yet he can barely contain himself from harping on Christine over the umbrella, for example. It's like he's a time bomb waiting to go off. And the wives are like, "ooh, Kody's TIRREED." (tee hee!) Just a few random observations: -Janelle without makeup seems almost featureless; -some of those kids (I noted mostly the pre-teen/teenaged boys) look a little "off" somehow; -Robyn's delivery (esp at couch time) has degraded to bland and emotionless -the "Kody is our LEADER, not our dictator." And his comment about not wanting to always be in charge. Yes, he does... but he's not.

I think one thing that makes me empathetic to Matt is that he's a guy who's been sickly all his life and desperately wanted to make this magical childhood for his kids (and himself, to some degree) and now is totally bereft that they are grown and leaving home. Amy has that desperation too, as if there is nothing beyond child-rearing. I think also that Matt is painfully aware that he likely won't live to a ripe old age and wants to pack life in as much as he can. As for him not working and Amy carrying the load- didn't he have some sort of outside job initially, the first year or so of the series? For people who ask what these reality stars do to make a living- well, they exploit their lives on television, that's what! I cannot imagine having a fight with my estranged husband or discussing sensitive topics the way they do; I guess having the camera crew there becomes so commonplace for them that they just don't notice.

I think she feels it's really funny to joke about being the fat girl wanting pizza. Because, you know- it's really funny. I believe I heard her say something about her mother being 70.

I'm in the minority in that I'm not pro-Amy, all the time. She spends a lot of time rolling her eyes and looking ready to argue with Matt. Sure, he's aggravating. He seems to have classic ADD with all of his ideas and projects and plans- which he then has to orchestrate from his Mule or his crutches. But geez, she is testy. And her poor grammar ( thanks to everyone pointing out the "Matt and I" errors over and over, and the "daughter-in-laws") makes her seem like she's trying to be highly intellectual when, well- she just isn't. As for the sloppiness- I cannot imagine being televised and letting the house be as slovenly as it's been in the past. You'd think of the six of them, someone would have been embarrassed enough to hang up a coat or two or put the groceries in a cabinet. This week one thing stuck out to me like a sore thumb: The whole photo prints thing. Jeremy didn't have them express mailed; near-crisis occurred when their "event" was hours away and they had no pictures. As they were driving to pick them up, Audrey was telling him how she didn't like the disorganization, that it could have been prevented, and that she wanted an apology. After sitting slack-jawed for a few miles, Jeremy said, "I'm sorry the pictures were late." Ummm... that's not an apology for YOUR behavior, dude! And then in his TH he clapped himself on the back for being "responsive to Audrey's needs." See what a great example he sets for a good marriage?

I'm more than surprised that the medical provider (nurse? doctor?) told her that her blood pressure was 160, which was a "little high," and that 140 was "normal." No, that's just not true. Over 120 systolic is hypertensive. And all that scene allowed Whitney to do was brush off further the warnings they were trying (too gently, IMO) to give. She says afterwards, "my blood pressure was fine, but my heart rate was a little fast." It was too fast for someone who is lying on a gurney. Normal pulse is 60-80. Her heart is working too hard. You could almost see her dismissing the weight comments the minute the ER people got them out of their mouths. And in the previews for this week, TLC dramatically added the sounds of a ventilator and heart rate monitor in the background. That is totally lame. I agree with others who are confused about the meaning of the show. There is a lot of leaping back and forth from "I'm fat, fabulous and I can do anything I want to do!" to tears: "I can't lose weight; no one accepts the fat girl." And she is a master at fat logic. The winner comment was last week's "I think I was meant to be this way- this is my mission."

Whitney is the queen of fat-logic. "I'm on this earth to teach body acceptance; it's my CALLING to be a fat girl!" (and also the loud, TMI, "funny fat girl" as well). I've always gotten mixed messages. She says she loves her body; she cries when she talks about her weight. TLC has mastered the method of trying to up the drama with the previews. For tonight, there are sounds of a heart monitor and a ventilator. I highly doubt she had to be put on a ventilator after last week's episode.

Regarding the "Cortney and me" usage- there is also a lot of "It took a long time for Jaime and I to be able to..." no, it's "Jaime and ME." If I recall correctly, I even heard the use of "Cortney and I's apartment," which made me want to stab someone. The ring is awful. It looks like something Mr. T would have worn. Elegant and vintage? Hardly. And I don't think Jason designed it- he picked it right out of the jewelry store case, about a minute after walking into the store.

"pre-baby bucket list; pre-baby bucket list; pre-baby bucket list..." in Jaime's vocal fry voice was making me want to tear my hair out. Also, is it necessary for all of them to wax on and on about how "we've been fighting; we've been busy- this trip/adventure/outing really made us RELAX and it was nice to SPEND TIME TOGETHER and now I really APPRECIATE HIM/HER and love him/her more than EVER." You guys are not unique, you are experiencing life and the fact that sometimes it's not all TV rose petals and luxury suites. Also, I'm sorry but doing makeup for a living, while there is a demand, isn't something for Cortney to get all uppity about and demand that Jason realize that what she does is important. Part-time cosmetic work is not a full-time, physically demanding or life-threatening job, no matter how you slice it. Yeah, it's shitty to act like he's better than her, but she's more ridiculous to demand he take her seriously when she talks about how hurt she is that he commented on her career choices. I think Cortney is way too demanding and all of the games and activities he plans are going to get hard to come by really quickly. I'm exhausted just watching them all. Does no one work, hang out, read a book, clean the house?

Does anyone else notice how many made-for-TV-movie cliches Cortney uses when she talks? It's like she wants to live out her own little fairy tale. "It takes TWO people to make a relationship, and two people to break it!!" (long stare, under chic hat). Or, "Jason is working hard and growing personally, and in our relationship. I'm so proud of him!!" (flashing her ultra white teeth). I think that for someone who works here and there, she definitely should be doing more to keep the apartment together. It's not that tiny; it's just that they have a lot of stuff and it's a mess. (Remember when they moved and opened the storage closet, which looked like something out of a Hoarders episode?) Jason seems to scramble, a lot, to do things to try and please her. I've never seen someone need so much special attention for birthdays, first Christmases, etc. And if he wants to buy her a ring, fine- but all the blatant evasiveness about the personal bank account was very contrived. Jamie seemed to go to therapy only because Doug insisted, not because she thought it would help her. The argument in the restaurant made me cringe: Doug apologizes, she says, "ok, BUT... it would be nice if you..." He didn't have a leg to stand on. Jamie needs to work on her voice. Ever hear of the term "vocal fry"? She is the queen of it and it's so annoying.

As well as pointing out that they had been honest... well, SHE had been honest, anyway.

Am I the only one who really can't stand the term "hubby"?

Neil made a comment to the "professionals," before revealing his decision, that he had gone "out of his comfort zone" with the hugging. I said once before he seems to show some Asperger's tendencies, and that seems to reinforce it for me. He was always stiff and uncomfortable looking with what most people consider normal interactions, especially physical ones, that typical people would have in a newer relationship- a casual touch or a hug (think of the hug on the fishing dock). There is an epidemic on this show of girls with huge, fake eyelashes and heavy makeup. Cortney, Jamie, and now Ashley. It's downright ugly.

Oh, and two more things: If I'd really been full-out crying like Sam did at her rejection, I would not look so pulled-together the next day. And I really, really want Vanessa's dog. She was the star of it all.

I'm not sure why Neil was an asshole for making the decision. Yeah, he kind of strung her along a bit when she tried to lead him with questions like "do you think we've had more good times than bad the past few weeks?" but please, the producers obviously told them to allude to very little during the lead up to the *gasp* oh-so-exciting-and-suspenseful DECISION DAY. And I'm tired of Sam talking about how honest she was... really?! And for her to be all nice when they met up the next day and throw the jab, "we were honest from the get-go... well, *I* was honest, anyway!" She was a very theatrical goofy bride, a mean-spirited, domineering and condescending early bride, and then towards the end realized that she was going to look bad and tried to make nice. She said that she cried after his announcement that she was embarrassed. She should have been, for being unkind. And she was- but not because she realized she had not treated him well, but because she was going to be dumped. Ashley was absolutely right that David was in love with the idea of marriage and love, not her. Still, I give her two thumbs down for not even trying, shutting him out completely, blaming the entire failed relationship on text-gate, and - the final nail on the coffin - wanting to "talk about things" after they called it quits. At least, finally, David had the dignity to politely figuratively give her the finger and walk out the door before he embarrassed himself one final time.

I couldn't stand listening to how many times Ashley said, "I was putting all my effort into this"; "I was trying my hardest to make it work"; "I really worked hard at this". No, no, no. You cannot convince anyone, looking at your slack, passive, emotionless face, that you put ANY effort into this at all. Even someone who was not attracted, and realized they probably never would be, would at least be civil and try to make conversation with the spouse while enjoying all the perks of free outings, nice paid-for housing and a lot of TV exposure.

I heard Vanessa refer last night to "our decision," so I'm thinking maybe they discussed it. As for the others, who knows? It seems as if Neil is now gaining upper hand as Sam suddenly realizes she'd better make nice or she'll lose her chance. I just don't see them as a realistic match for the long run. She might play around with him like a cat taunting its prey, but he seems over it and like he's just playing along for some good TV.

Sociopath? Hardly. He's a nerd with what appear to be Asperger's type characteristics. It's like he really doesn't know how to pick up on cues and is rather stiff and very non-spontaneous in his interactions with Sam. This won't change. He says the lines ("I wanted a soul-mate. I want someone I love to have a great time with") but I'm not sure he knows what they mean. He's likable in that he's curious and odd, but I don't think guys like that find life partners easily (unless they are very similar- maybe he should look at his lab-mates).

I agree with this. These people have barely spent a month together for a TV show role. This is not a relationship that has developed where he is in a dangerous , toxic pattern of being "abused" and has sustained emotional damage. I think everyone here knows what they are doing and are playing for the audience to a great degree. And honestly, Neil is likely not as naïve as he portrays himself. I think he's letting everything play out, to some extent. Maybe giving Sam enough rope to hang herself?