violet and green

That's cool. Given that this show, purportedly about solving that case found no evidence at all to indicate the scientists en masse or singly killed Annie K and given even I have a drill bit that shape, I don't think it is a good enough reason to murder the lot of them, when a) it may not even be the murder weapon and they may not have done it (cause I sure didn't do it) and b) only one of them may be responsible, but hey kill them all, and c) the current investigation is actively if ham-fistedly trying to solve the Annie K case, not bury it, so there is no need for mob justice except for the sake of some girl power vibes.

And yet we saw the video Annie K made on her phone in the dark of a tunnel with the whale bones showing, and she was screaming as whoever found her and came to kill her got there, and we saw and Danvers remarked - see, the power went off - and we heard Annie screaming at length in the dark. The scene of Annie being murdered was not in a dark tunnel, with whale bones, it was in a bright white lab, and at no time was the power shut off, it was fully lit, and they stomped on Annie's phone to shut it off.

Actually, I forgot, there was one pre-episode warning, before Julia's death. I also forgot, there were two more "ambiguous" or not suicides. Hank Prior's death by cop/son. And then the non-ambiguous suicide of Raymond Clark. I am not familiar with the oevre of Billie Eilish, so when I watched the opening credits of the very first episode I thought, taken aback by the song choice in the first place, is she actually singing, "I want to end me"? If your life has not been touched - or in many cases, utterly riven - by the suicide of a loved one, then I guess this doesn't matter so much. But given the prevalence of suicide in arctic populations, it seems a pretty tone-deaf note to be striking over and over, and making a motif in your show that purports to care about the welfare of indigenous peoples, or indeed people at all.

That's just absurd.

From wiki: When questioned over the final scene, López said, "For me as an audience member, Navarro is alive. She went out and had her walkabout in a way in the ice, because now she can do that, and find a way back. But it is true that no one ever leaves Ennis... or anywhere."[5] Reis said, "I think she just goes off into a place where she can be herself without any responsibilities. And if she did either walk into the ice like her sister or stay around, the only person she would ever come back to see, whether it's in the spirit world or physical world, would be Danvers."[6] It didn't seem ambiguous to me, either, in a show that went out of its way to include multiple ghosts, and references to the other side.

The reason I say "as told by Rose" is that her language in the last episode, as she tells Prior that putting his father's body into the water is not the worst of it over, as he might be imagining. The implication was she maybe lied about Travis killing himself. (Who knows with this show.) There was no warning or hotline number for me, which is why I mentioned it. The implement does not tell them all of the scientists murdered her. edit to add: There was no blood. Blair found the instrument 6 years after Annie's death. (Which, also, was in the cave system and not in the laboratory where the flashback showed it happening, and which, also, occurred in the video we saw mutliple times, after a blackout.)

I found the romanticisation of suicide throughout the series - from the opening credits track, Julia's death, Travis's death as told by Rose, and Navarro's ambiguous ending - pretty reprehensible. Didn't get a warning on any episode, or the usual hotline numbers afterwards, either.

I think I can safely say that what is shown is a hot mess. Logically, there is no way for that tongue to get there. Perhaps it teleported.

Well, the writer and director has said that Hawkes and others were involved in rewriting their own scenes, etc; so that makes what he says about his own character's actions part of what passes for the canon of this series. surely. Issa Lopez is a bit foggy on her own canon. On her IG she claimed the reason the Coast Guard picked up and magically identified Julia's body in such a rapid time frame was that a "fishing party" found the body. And I quote: "A fishing party found her. Friends celebrating Christmas Eve in a fishing boat. Everybody knows everybody in Ellis." Not the usual meaning of a fishing party! I think unexplored facts pointed out by viewers are being retrofitted to make sense of things that no-one thought to think of prior to spending millions making this series.

Someone said that John Hawkes said somewhere that his character Hank put it there. But that's quite the coincidence. I think no-one read the script properly or put more than a moment's thought into the logic of any of it; they were all too busy coming up with nice touches for their characters to think of plot and logic.

I have so many thoughts. How come these far, distant, dangerous ice caves, so far flung you need a special map and a guide, are just a few hundred feet from the Tsalal station? How come that blizzard raging in the scene prior was no more than a light breeze that occasionally rippled the fur of Rose's hood, out in the burial by ice? How come I was able to predict that an orange would roll into view? How come the entire Wheeler crime scene was repositioned in this flashback, so they could fit in Rambo Navarro going for him with her gun? Where did his shotgun get to? How did his chair spin around away from the doorway, where his girlfriend's body lay just a foot or two away in the previous flashback, and move to the centre of the room? How come some times there is mist exhaled when characters speak, and sometimes there is not - even when they are in the same location? How come that ice cave scene reminded me of an episode of the original 60s Star Trek? How come there was a significant power outage before the end of Annie's video and yet no power outage when we saw the flashback of her attacked and murdered? How come those cleaning ladies knew all the scientists killed Annie? And how come they left no forensic traces behind them when they tore through the station chasing them? (I guess they went back and cleaned good, real good.) And how come no-one noticed when they had the photo of a three-fingered handprint on the boot of one of the scientists left behind back many episodes ago, that this might be a clue? And how come nobody bothered to ask the most important question of all: Who folded their clothes? I could probably go on for 6 pages like this. But time is a flat circle.

I think the show itself forgot about the scientists. It will be interesting to see how they wrap it all up tomorrow. I woke up this morning thinking about the Wheeler case, and how he couldn't have shot himself in the right or left temple with that shotgun he had laying on his lap. I expect it will all be answered in the final five minutes of the episode - that seems to be where all the action plot-wise occurs. Maybe Prior will ring up Danvers and say, I've found the final link, and she'll go, hot damn, well done, son, you did good. And then an orange will roll into shot by her feet, maybe the one-eyed bear will wink, and Billy Eilish will wail out another song. I feel sad, as I have been looking forward to this season since I first heard it was happening and was set in the snow.

I thought I enjoyed Plane the most in the Rusical, I thought she was brilliant playing that role - but it turned out that was Q! So that was a relief. Really enjoying Mhi'ya's lip syncs! Am still recalling and enjoying Plasma's nod to Pygmalion/My Fair Lady in the runway package, 'How doo you doo?'

The first season was well-written, well-plotted, and well-paced. The lead detectives had an interesting relationship. Rusty Cohle was a fascinating character who had some of the most breathtaking lines in television history. The philosphical underpinnings of his dialogue fit and enhanced the mood of the production. The acting was phenomenal by the two seasoned leads. None of the supporting cast seemed like amateur actors roped in. The cinematography was a character of its own. The mood of the piece was not destroyed by ham-fisted pop songs, dropped in loudly, obscuring the poor dialogue. To say this season, which should have been a stand-alone show, and not released under the TD banner, has 'richer' and 'better drawn' characters is quite a stretch. Maybe you can write a synopsis of the plot so far, which was the question that prompted my post. It is quite a thankless task.

True Detective, season one, was 8 episodes. There was no need for "padding".

The vet established they died before they were frozen. The bodies went to Anchorage. It doesn't matter how they died - Earth/Gaia rising up in protest, or some primordial evil spirit coming for them and terrifying them to death, a one-eyed white polar bear chasing them out of the facility, or a slab avalanche (none of which would have folded their clothes!) - because this show decided to focus on other aspects than solving the mysterious deaths of the scientists. I don't think there's any doubt about that! They shoved it down our throats with every episode; it was hardly subtle. Multiple examples of foul water, and characters talking about the mine and it effects, and the knowledge Annie K was an annoyance to the mine in her persistence. My objection to the personal stories was they slowed the momentum of the investigation, such as it was.

William Wheeler was a violent, abusive man who, back 6 or 7 years ago when they worked together, Navarro and Danvers were called out to ten times, Prior said, and who put his girlfriend into hospital twice. Then he shot her and was sitting there when they arrived. He whistled Twist and Shout knowingly at Danvers. (I think it may have something to do with the car accident that killed her husband and son.) Either she or Navarro shot him and then said he was dead when they got there. But he was lefthanded and they shot him on the right temple. They doctored the photos, but Prior figured it out care of a birthmark... Hank got into his computer and now their boss Ted knows and he is using it as leverage to shut up Danvers from pursuing the cases currently.

Funnily enough, I did a rewatch yesterday, fastforwarding through the dull sister, stepdaughter, and community stuff that I found slow and only marginally related to the plot. Even then, the actual true detectiving was so cut up into little scenes by the edit, it often felt like watching a music video. This was not helped by the vocal track being too low in the mix with loud music and so on overpowering it, so I watched the entire thing with subtitles on, and caught a few more facts. Even so, I cannot give you much of summary! After the initial episode, and bringing the bodies of the scientists back into town to thaw on the ice rink, very little attention was paid to how they might have died (with some of their clothes only found, folded, near by - with all this 'Ask the right questions!' I would have thought someone might have asked, 'Who folded their clothes?') and far more effort seeming to go into the old Annie K case, especially once they found the link between the scientists and Annie K, apart from her tongue being found at the crime scene, which was that Raymond Clark (who as the bodies thawed was discovered to not be among the dead) and she were having some sort of affair conducted in the creepy trailer he bought for the purpose, as she wanted it kept secret. I even read some really thorough recaps of each episode on Vulture, and I still can't summarise the plot! It seemed as if any time a conversation was about to progress understanding of the scientists' case, it would be interrupted, and often by one of the dull sister/stepdaughter subplots - so Danvers would be on route to stop the bodies being removed to Anchorage and stop to help the sister running about semi-naked in the snow, driving her back to the station rather than calling it in, and next thing you know the bodies are gone. It was also extremely difficult, even with the little flashes of the date and number of days of night, to work out what was happening when, and no-one other than cleaning ladies very early on seemed to be interviewed, and even then it was in an informal setting and sketchily done. I found it astounding on rewatch to realise nobody formally sat Rose Aguineau down after she was the one to find the bodies, even to ask, 'Did you fold their clothes?'!

I don't understand, given that the bodies were found so long ago, the reason why the forensic scientist who couldn't make it due to weather was only just then called in. But the whole series is heaving with plot holes, as far as the police procedural and detective elements go. They focused way too much energy and screentime on sideplots, family elements and dramas, and pointing ghosts.

Funny avalanche that folded their clothes for them.

I thought La Grande Dame's number, after the musical beginning which was quite amusing, was a rip-off of Jimbo. I did enjoy that pissy little look she had on her face when the camera cut to her response after Jonber's number! I am really excited to see Jonber's back on my screen. Also glad to see a bit more of Gothy Kendoll's looks, even if she doesn't last long.

Compare to the last few, where she was "moving" like the tin man in a straight jacket, she actually was swinging those hips and working those heels!

Ha! I want to reach through the screen and blend it for her.

Another one I'd have liked to see more of gone too soon. That was a really unfortunate series of events and choices. If Mirage hadn't pushed to get host for the skit, most likely she'd have been safe, the sixties hair, even though it looked nice, and then not getting the words down to that song, even with those great moves... So pleased for Plasma and the win. I rewatched her reaction and talking heads three times!

Really disappointing to have the lovely Hershii out first. I was hoping for a different bottom two. Still it is shaping up to be quite a good season. Lots of dramah in Untucked! Good on Ms Meating for clapping back so succinctly.