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UGH--I am done too Gam2---I came over to this show because Y&R was so bad (and it still is) but this crap with Steffy being allowed to ride roughshod over everyone and no one stops or even questions her (Victor Newman business rules I guess) then Thomas the creeper and now this idiotic story line with Nicole?---hard to believe but it makes Y&R look better---will keep checking in over here but until something happens that does not suck I am out too---so sad and glad that I did not convince anyone else to give this show another chance---aaarrrggghhh--what the hell is wrong with Bell? in this case the apple did fall a long ways from the tree (and I was never a big Bell booster until I saw what the likes of know-nothings could do)

I am so not concerned about ages of characters or actors--hate that TK looks like he is hanging out with Nick Newman in the vat o'bacon grease and sporting the same unkempt look that is just really awful---WHY? I don't remember him looking like that on other shows although I know many hated his long hair when he played Patrick on OLTL--- I am still not watching and just reading here and I still loathe Thomas the tinytall puncher with the fire of a thousand suns which is a hatred I used to reserve for the tiny mobster back when I still watched GH There are no words for the revolting mess that is Steffy/Liam either

Have not been watching for about 10 days--just come here and read and I have had a house guest who is a long time soap watcher but she cannot deal with B&B---she tried last May when we were painting a bedroom and I had it on and had to explain about Rick and Maya---she is so not a fan of whatsit Young from other places----reading here has been very depressing---hate the story with TK (not ridge to me) and Caroline and especially icky son who will never be anything but horrid to me---hate what they have done to Ivy and LOATHE Steffy and the weasel she calls a boyfriend---was so looking forward to another fashion house but Bill ruined that now too---UGH---still trying but not watching much

Back in the day I liked NLG when she was on Santa Barbara but that was a long long time ago---I get that she is a long time activist but since she took that sorta dumb character job at GH I figured that she liked the paycheck and the dumb storyline stuff and she had made her peace with --hardly shakespeare and yeah I heart Lane Davies forever but still---she chose that lane---so sorry she whacked out on Twitter but then I rant late at night too---

eh--I skipped today--did not need to see Brooke-Thomas-bad-actor Zende---sigh---I really wish that Bill had greenlighted a fashion house but the rest is just beyond boring and I agree with anyone who sees Steffy in the mold of Grampire aka Victor Newman---they never have to pay for anything--UGH

OK--so I finally told 88 yr old mom about Michael E. Knight coming to the show to be a "doctor"----she was thrilled and she remembered Tad from AMC (she doesn't always remember old shows especially ATWTs but Tad is one of her unforgettables) I tried to tamp that down by saying remember what this show did to Angie and Jessie and it could be awful---still she will be happy to see him--she did a lot of years with AMC after she first retired---

LOL--P&E and pearlite--I heart both of your posts--especially enjoyed the critigue of B&B where I have gone for refuge from Grampire and Stupor girl and Sagebrush etc ---they do have great sets and it was fun for awhile but now it is making me angry too---Love the Hogestyn Emeritus Scholarship but gee I can think of a lot of candidates for that--- So hating on Abby these days and she must be taking up the spoiled princess slack for the vacationing Dummer--hope she stays away as long as possible---I could make a laundry list of obnoxious characters but the real problem is Upchuck's writing or lack thereof---so not looking forward to another Fairview storyline or the ongoing ick that is Jack and Victor----Ray Wise is my only tiny ray of sunshine and I am sure it will be tiny due to the less than adequate writing staff--

LOVED Katie and $Bill today (in spite of his horrid new hair) and I have never been a fan of Heather Tom until maybe now on any show---my hatred for Steffy knows no bounds and now I am not sure if it does not trump my hatred for Thomas who is just beyond stupid without the vindictive thrown in---I remember Scott Clifton from GH many years ago when I still watched and cannot believe he is now playing this candyass---UGH Where the hell is Ridge? I know, I know--on some glorious honeymoon before all the secrets and Brookenasty tear it all apart but still---however from what I have seen he always supports his widdle baby daughter so no help from him--- So want to see Katie-Wyatt-Ivy kick some ass--PLEASE. Come on Show---

the new thomas has been on too long--after the first day--when viewers say they prefer Devon or any other awful repugnant dude it is time to cut losses and ditch the creep but NO--put him in a disgusting storyline where he is even more hated--YAY---NOT--when Devon looks good at the sight of him it is not a good day----

they are both awful---I think I hate thomas more but that is only because Kyle is a little gnome who I can mostly ignore except when he turns up the snivel

I agree whiteowl--the whole thing is beyond stupid and if this is the only way to get the "real" ivy back I will take it but it will not satisfy my Steffy loathing or supreme rage that one way or another she always gets what she wants with no repercussions and a lot of entitlement and "smug"

Never thought I would dislike someone else with the Maya/little Napoleon levels but Steffy and Liam have managed to make that happen in a nano second--power hungry and obnoxious are such great qualities and just like the last time where the hell is Eric? or even Ridge? nowhere to be seen while Bratz throws her weight around---UGH---what a retread. Not that I am surprised---the minute that video was gone this was the foregone result---PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Ivy have a backup copy somewhere---I realize that Ridge is busy with his own little drama but he wanted to be CEO so the least he could do is pay a little attention---really not sure now who I loathe more Steffy or Rick---bleah.

UGH--I pretty much hate Thomas--ass extraordinarire and as much as I like TK he is stoopid now too as is Caroline---and then there is the steffy/Liam crapoloosza--UGH and UGH again--please please please tell me that Ivy had a copy somewhere somehow and will use it---HELLO Steffy sucks on a good day and I now loathe Liam etc so even chicken looks good at the sight of these losers---I hate them all and where can I go? back to Y&R? please NO

never mind---

bayview---we think alike again ^^^^^^^

Love Michael E. Knight---he was often the only reason I was watching AMC and he has already had his character ground up by Upchuck once---I shudder to think what this current Y&R might do to him based on the less than stellar characters they dumped on my other faves---Maura West, Tristan Rogers, Debbie and Darnell etc etc---would be great if they really wrote something good for him but I am not holding my breath--sigh--still it will be great to see him.

yah---thomas is still a creeper and now everything is f-- ed up and vasectomies are reversable and I know that in my own family so yeah---and while Riidge needs to explain for sure I still think Thomas is the creeper here and am not amused---and for the love of GOD why is Brooke in any part of this UGH UGH UGH---she needs to get a life and not with Ridge or Deacon---

****deleting last night's ranty post because it was just more of the same about Thomas and my new disgust for him which has pretty much eclipsed my hatred for Steffy and Rick---I sound like a broken record---trying to reform....maybe. Taking my rants over to Y&R for a little Victor hatred, I have been neglecting him.

eh--I think Thomas knew and then some or chose to believe that he was such a catch (and YOUNG! as opposed to fossil father who isn't) that he just thought it was his lucky day---ugh-ugh-ugh---toad and I so agree with the Steffi murderers too---and damn if at the end of the day I still come here instead of the Y&R Grampire fest so I guess I am a lifer for now

I can't comment on the rape aspect because I was so disgusted and had already read comments on here so I turned the channel to CNN--and I also am sure my opinion is affected by my all around loathing of Thomas and his recent and constant slithering around and carping about his ancient old dad--have not seen today's episode yet but I doubt it will change my mind about the repugnant son who just had to do this one way or another and took the first opportunity and will find a way to justify or spin the circumstances. I also agree that Caroline's past (which I was not around to see) is not remotely part of this, she is a victim any way you look at it IMO ---sigh.

So while I was having my ragefest last night I forgot to mention TK's hair---why oh why is he putting the patented Nick Newman Bacon Grease pomade in it? Just no-

UGH--I LOAAAAATHE Thomas and barely remember the other actors who played him--he makes Devon on Y&R look like a Tony award winner and I loathe Devon with the fire of a thousand suns---and it is not because of my TK feelings either---I just LOATHE LOATHE LOATHE this horrid actor of the nth degree ---if he continues I am pretty sure I am not---I make a huge effort in my time zone to drag downstairs at 3pm and for this and "Raya" not so much---so sad--guess I am left with Grampire and the idiots in Genoa City because I ain't going back to GH or Days after 15 years---UGH and UGH--even TK cannot keep me here to see Ivy tank and all the rest---sob--hate to see Eric be senile and so many other issues---I really tried but this tripe is not anything I wanna see---so sad for the good actors and the rest at least are getting a paycheck---yikes---so sad---I was so hopeful when I first took this show up---

I have bored everyone with my TK love that goes back to Patrick on OLTL (a show I was not even watching until I caught him and the whole Irish story) As Zack on AMC he was good but it was not quite the same---he is miscast as Ridge but only because we all know who came before him---Caroline annoys me with her Thomas the blouse wearer friendship---it just seems so insta-forced and over sharing---the age thing does not bother me at all and I do not buy the whole Ridge is too old to have kids thing---my own family is riddled with proof that is lame and uncles who are younger than their niece or nephew--if it works it works and if not there is usually another reason----TK is not that old of a fossil anyway---I am really crabby at Brooke/Thomas interferring in something that is so NONE of their business and I do not EVER want to see TK with Brooke---UGH--I am seeing what some of you are saying that maybe Ridge cannot have more kids---interesting but if so TELL HER before she does something stupid---if I was not so in a rage about Grampire on Y&R I might really rant.....

LOL---love the fashion round-up and it is so true!

So yeah--I am a TK fan back to the beginning but that does not mean that I am not aware of the problem with the character of Rigid ( and I had little use for Ronnnn Moss) but still---it is an ill fit and still I like TK---all the old Stephanie baggage (and I was here off an on for a fair amount) to me are someone else---likewise I was not here for the beginning of the Caroline romance but at this moment I find her to be...not much and not here for the long haul especially if the likes of the blouse wearer can turn her head etc---sigh---I find myself wishing TK was with an equal as he has been on other shows---she could be it but I am not seeing any signs of it---poo--the actress who plays Quinn is the one who is up to the challenge but she is with Deacon and I am not ready to dump that either---seriously why are so many of these characters so D.U.M.B.----and yet it is still better than Y&R but that is not saying much---