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Oh probably. Since I don't consider that a real alliance and don't get why Q is pushing it so much maybe that's why I forgot about them being involved in it lol

Q, Hunter was pretty much competing individually in the group challenges and you couldn't beat him then. Can Q PLEASE be voted off tonight?

So Q says he jumped off in the challenge on purpose, to see if his alliance was still strong. Can he please be the one voted off tonight?

So Venus for some reason suddenly thinks they are going to be Nami strong and vote Charlie off. Tevin even says as much and he wants to make a big move and orchestrate the first blindside of the season. I don't get what he means about him and Maria being the only ones to get it though?

Since he likes to boss everyone around, not sure I'd want him on the jury and be behind his blindside. I see him as a bitter juror and trying to influence everyone else to vote how he wants to vote.

Hunter's thinking of playing his idol because he's the odd man out. If his tribe had any brains they'd vote for him or at least put some votes on him. But I like Hunter, so I hope it isn't him. Praying it'll be Q.

Tevin is out, Maria wins immunity. Purple wins the reward and her tribe goes to TC last so whoever is voted out from there makes the jury. Not sure whose going from orange, but I think Venus needs a miracle to get through this TC.

Charlie, Tim, Venus, Liz, Hunter all drop like flies. Tiffany and Kenzie last to fall, Kenzie wins immunity so orange goes to TC first and won't get reward. Maria and Tevin the last two standing.

Tim's pulling a Gabler and giving shoutouts to anyone and everyone. I kind of agree with Probst, this challenge has been pretty fun for the banter alone.

Q and Soda are out. I didn't think this would be a good challenge for Q. Ben is now out, orange down to 4 members.

And the tribes are: Orange-Ben, Q, Kenzie, Tiffany, Tim, Hunter Purple-Soda, Liz, Maria, Charlie, Venus, Tevin How does Yanu get lucky to have all their members on the same tribe again? Also, not sure I like Venus's odds. Charlie knows she was coming for him (and he has Maria), and Tevin and Soda don't trust her. Okay, seeing Q get frustrated that no one was understanding the rules to his alphabet game was funny. Guess he gave up. Also, way to burn Jelinsky there Probst.

Double boot tonight! Everyone will be divided into two tribes. One person on each tribe is immune. Whoever lasts the longest overall gets a food reward for their group and they goe to TC second. The first group who goes to TC and votes someone off, that person does not make the jury. These immunity necklaces are pretty.

So Venus believes that Soda wrote her name down at the last TC. She doesn't think there's anyone else that could have done it or would have done it. After some bickering with Soda, Charlie fesses up. Q's mad about it because he wanted Venus to keep believing Soda did it. Maybe Q should have listened to Venus and voted Charlie off last TC. Charlie's annoyed that Q is running the show and everyone has to do everything he says.

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Depending on how the tribes are split this week, assuming they use the same format from other new era double boot eps, Q might get lucky and survive. But I can definitely see his boot coming very soon based on his edit. I think getting rid of him might hurt Tiffany more, only because he has more loyalty to her than he does to Kenzie. It's possible that Kenzie could ditch Tiffany at some point (and she also knows about her idol so she can use that info against her). If Kenzie does win I feel like she's going to have to make some big move, unless she wins solely because of a super bitter jury. I actually think it'll be Tim and possibly a Nami person going. I feel like things might come to a head with Venus/Soda/Tevin. I've seen some speculation on other sites that Tevin might go thanks to Venus, because he seemed to be the bigger thorn in her side. Tevin was also seen in the previews saying 'it could be a blindside'. Maybe he and Hunter try to get Soda out, too, and it backfires on him. Not sure if I see Tevin going just yet, but I guess I won't rule it out. I do think Venus will get one of at least Tevin or Soda, but not sure she'll get both.

Not sure if anyone’s been following this drama, but a puzzle seller on Etsy claimed that Carson (S44) stole their ideas for selling 3-D printed Survivor puzzles, and that he actually bought puzzles from their shop to practice on before doing his season (so I guess not printing them himself like he claimed). The seller said they met with Carson post season and he was asking them all sort of questions about marketing and business tactics, and they suggested a partnership idea with him. Instead, he allegedly took their ideas and all the info they gave him and used it to start his own Survivor puzzle business without giving them any sort of credit. https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/survivor-44s-carson-garrett-accused-of-stealing-puzzle-ideas/

Yeah I mentioned above about what Moriah said in her exit interview-that 7 people were not only immune but also the majority. For the people whose time in the game was about to be up, they didn’t even have the numbers of their side. So for people who were going to survive past the TC, they got to decide everything, and didn’t have to burn any idols or advantages either. The merge used to be an exciting time and it actually meant something. And you’d think that if you made the merge you actually earned it, but I guess that’s not interesting enough for Jeff. But the merge could sometimes be a turning point as to what former tribe would get the numbers (and therefore run the end game, especially in the era without idols or advantages) or it’d be a lifeline for someone who was on the chopping block. But it really came down to the two bottom feeders from their previous tribes, Venus and Moriah. Charlie had Ben and Maria likely go to bat for him, and Soda and Liz had Tevin, even though Tevin doesn’t seem as close to Soda as she does to him. But he clearly has some issue with Venus that’s goes back to day 1.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5WtkFQvmjm/?igsh=MWQ4MDI3aHZlMzJ5OA== So from next week’s episode description, it said the rogue vote at TC (Charlie’s vote on Venus) causes a blame game. Also that castaways have to choose “between past and present loyalties in one of the most important TC of the season.” It’s interesting that Charlie’s lone vote is potentially going to cause chaos, and this is at least something no one can blame on Venus. I am hoping that it’s everyone else upset that not everyone went along with the plan, and not just Venus upset her name was written down.

Moriah said something in one of her interviews that I hadn’t thought of, but that the side that won had the literal majority because of Tiffany picking them to side with (7-6). So the 7 people that couldn’t be voted for also got to decide who to vote off. Never thought I’d miss the hourglass twist but if a season needed it than this was the season. They definitely need to either eliminate earn the merge or change up how it’s done.

The only man I was hating last night was Q, who I’d actually been a fan of up until now. But give that guy a little power and he acts like he’s running the show. I think my issue is that it seems like the women can’t do anything on here without the men being suspicious of a women’s alliance. An alliance type that has really only worked successfully once in Survivor history. Episode 1, Tim was suspicious of the girls walking around together and that must mean they are up to something. And he wasn’t wrong but it’s just the idea that that’s where his mind went. Venus gets pegged as another Parvati so that makes her a threat. And Venus spoke her peace last night but that makes her difficult. Q seemed like she was conspiring to get the guys out, but as someone already said, her and Soda hate each other, and Liz hates Soda, so a women’s alliance isn’t going to work because of those 3 at least. In reality, Venus was more right that Charlie was probably a threat than Moriah long term. I’d like to know why Q didn’t at least entertain the idea. He’d still be getting a Siga out. As for Charlie, I find him kind of annoying but I don’t hate him. He’s probably mid tier for me right now.

This is one of the reasons they need to get out of Fiji. It makes it easy when they can leave all their props and sets behind (which I assume they do, maybe I’m wrong). But I think the bigger issue is when the show went to other countries, we got a cultural element in the challenges. Jeff said that’s one of the reasons they quit doing the gross food challenge, because it was usually based off of that countries delicacies or some ritual. Looking back at early seasons, the challenges seemed a lot simpler yet are more refreshing than what we get now. I do question if budget is another reason why we get the same stuff re-hashed, but I think even with what they have they could still get more creative.

It really threw me off that Moriah suddenly made herself a threat because she said Aubry was her favorite player. I mean really? I love Aubry and am also in the camp that thought she should have won KR. But it's just funny that it made Moriah suddenly seem so threatening to Q. And this was my biggest issue with Q tonight. It's like he had his mind made up that Moriah was going, so how dare anyone else try and throw any other names out or have an opinion. Did he give Moriah any reason why she should have come forward before TC? From what she said at camp he was coming on too strong with the questions and strategy talk. Maybe if he'd taken a different approach she might have been more willing to open up. Of course it also seemed like Siga wanted to stay strong and together, so maybe not. But I think I can see what she meant. I'd love it next week if Q or Kenzie was taken out.

I forgot to mention this earlier but did it seem like Hunter had an easier time getting the key to his idol box? With the girls, they had to solve an equation and Jem had to go count different spots at the beach. Hunter seemed like all he had to do was find a key under the stairs near his shelter. Now I know he still had the obstacle of not being seen by his tribe, but editing played that beautifully when it showed Soda and Venus having an argument and not paying him any attention while he was digging nearby.

If Tim really is pre-jury then next week would be the last chance for him to get voted off. If the episode follows the past few seasons when there's a double boot, it'll be two groups, one person in each group has immunity, the remaining members in their group are eligible to be voted for. Tim would have to go to TC first to be the last pre-juror. If Venus is mid-jury then she would have to be safe next week. If Robot's right then Charlie is safe, and there's a chance Ben, Kenzie, Maria, and Liz are also safe. So that would leave Soda/Tevin/Hunter/Q/Tiffany as the second boot of the episode and first juror.