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I am team Joey , I guess because he is so amazing as an amateur. One thing I noticed in that show when Witney seemed to be blocking the cameras from seeing Danny (I would be happy for him to go out first or second) was that Jenna has NOT been blocking the cameras (which she can do when warranted). I'm always very interested in what Chandler is going to do, because I appreciate her talent and skill -- she is getting better at projecting emotion (maybe), but there can be big problems with cameras and lighting where black contestants are concerned. I remember it from Danny Tidwell's season on SYTYCD, a long time ago now - we had long discussions about it back then and a group of us watched carefully for it to improve. It seemed to sorta improve eventually (Cyrus and Comfort), but I definitely feel that if the cameras were closer to Chandler's face, or if she was lit better, that the complaints about her emoting would be more muted. And, as I've said before, I just don't find Brandon that interesting, although this particular epi disproved that. Steven and Danny should be gone. This is going to be a loooong 3 hours.

I don't know about the contention that DWTS is supposed to be an amateur competition. I've been watching since S2 and I've never seen a season that didn't arguably have one or more ringers in it. I think Chandler deserves the accolades, myself. And she probably isn't pulling the votes as she might be were she a white ringer. But somebody who used to be on this forum has analyzed how often ringers win, and I don't think it happens all that often. I'm for Joey winning, precisely because he is supposedly not a ringer? I'm not making an accusation, he just dances so well for someone without training. But star power and attitude can make up for any ringeryness in the final, so the ringers never bother me, I just enjoy their dancing.

I found the insta dance badly set up and tediously repetitive. The re-do of the supposedly "iconic" dances was full of nonsense too. I hate it when they expect us to believe that 1) the celeb is picking which dance they're doing and 2) they just happen to have the dance in their head. I certainly didn't agree with some of the choices either.

I think Joey is miles better than Danny. Partly a body shape bias maybe, but Danny is just so stiff through his core. Joey is an absolute delight to watch, but Danny makes me want to get on stage and adjust his body lines physically (despite the fact that I know nothing). I think Steven or Ilona should go next. Steven is really terrible and I haven't seen a whole lot of improvement and Ilona is better (when not doing awkward lifts). Alan has got to let her dance and stop with the daft lifts.

It's so odd not being annoyed by the order in which people are leaving. I don't remember that ever happening before. Chandler was fire in that tango. That's the dance that sticks with me. I don't like Brandon, although he's improved a lot - his style just doesn't appeal to me. I wonder why Sharna got to dance in the opening and Anna or Lindsay didn't. Maybe they were asked and turned it down? So many former contestants are unrecognizable to me now, but usually I recognize the pros. I find the fame of the pros one of the funniest aspects of this show. Especailly against the lack of fame many of the "celebrities" have.

Yes, well, good point. I think the audience would object to the lack of female perspective, but given how off CAI is and that the objections to her haven't borne fruit at all, possibly not.

It doesn't sound very authentic. And the point that if Mark got it, Bruno or Derek would have to go is sound. They can't have a 3 dudes judging panel. I would like Bruno to go, or better yet to tone it down a hell of a lot.

Thank you dizzyd for reminding me why I knew that song. I wasn't the biggest fan of this dance just due to the theme (dancers great, Wade great), so it didn't spring into my head.

Oh thanks. When I looked up there seemed to be one of those blurs on her partner tucked beside her on the train, so I thought they were concealing something - maybe it was a smudge on my glasses. Sorry, Quickbeam.

Yes? I don't understand your point AND I couldn't see how it answered my question.

I'm coming to love Ilona as she gets more and more confident. I want to see that keep on going. The costumers are okay with her, but I could do better<grin>. Dwight and Dani's dance was legit scary and Joey and Jenna were legit freaky. I think Halloween night kinda sucks usually, but they were all kinds of good and so were all the in between dances with the cast. I always like those. The other time fillers were pretty yawn inducing. Derek and Bruno's little sketch at the beginning was hilarious because of how ON their comic timing was. If you described it to me, I would've found the whole concept tedious, but their performance elevated it to comic. I wasn't paying careful attention, but when Joey and Jenna went on the haunted house ride, was Val with Jenna? They seemed to be purposefully obscuring who her date was. Maybe because they'd have had to pay him? Or maybe it wasn't Val? I wish they'd replace Carrie Ann and Bruno. I'm so over both of them. Devastated to learn that the show won't be on next week. I'm going to desperately need a distraction from the news.

Julianne didn't wear the white dress in the beginning because it wouldn't have suited the opening dance. I really thought she and Alfonso were a lot of fun to watch in that dance. I HATE Disney with a white hot passion, especially now the megaCorp owns every bloody thing, but I did enjoy that opening number. So glad Phaedra is gone. Val knew he was stuck with a stinker. I was about to start a Free Val movement. Interesting how the right people are leaving in pretty much the right order this year. Dwight next. He is even more awkward than Steven. I thought that Ilona suited the black crop and black shorts better than anything else we've seen her in. Also, I get it, she's strong, now stop.

Do we have a guest judge tonight?

Does anybody understand why these two nights were sequential? Were they really sequential or were they just aired sequentially? I heard someone say last night about the Soul Train night, so they were sequential? Isn't that really hard on the contestants?

Yes and Ilona was 'magnificent" while everyone else was hot or beautiful or whatever. She will have noticed, I'm here to tell you. Probably part of her breakdown. I've been through a physical/mental breakdown like that and it sucks because you can just NOT stop crying. I felt for her knowing that.