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Gino and Jasmine make relationships and marriage appear horrible. What wife is staying married to a man who withholds sex as punishment for her blunt/whiny personality? And why would Gino want to appear sexually vulnerable when Jasmine tells the world he's lousy in bed and blames his lack of interest on porn (not her personality)?

😆 I think Adnan mistakenly thinks his English is good enough for witty barbs and insults. Meanwhile, I have difficulty understanding anything he's saying. All I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher, Mwah waa Mwah waa...

I think he truly expected his social media to explode after 90DF was televised, while also anticipating a ton of new IG followers. But the public's angry attacks and posts made the couple turn off their IG comments. He was parading around the set like a rooster, totally oblivious to the others' feelings. I also think the show's 'handlers' fed into his misguided assumption that North Americans would fully agree with his views. He really believed we couldn't get enough of his and Tigerlily's life and deep thoughts. 😆 I wonder who'll be smirking after the last episode of the tell all?

I appreciated Loren’s admission that he wants to send Faith money, and doesn't care how she spends it. Yet Brian was reacting like OF course money is the ONLY reason Faith tolerates Loren. Well, just because ALL women would demand $$ to just listen to Brian nonsense, doesn't mean all foreign women scam for cash. Brian was trying to insinuate the same for Matilda's interest in Niles. Bitterness is aging Brian. I don't understand how anyone would openly accept Loren's proposal, unless there's some sort of contract/deal/ payment involved? I need that friend of his to explain (I liked her, and her defense of Loren).

I could see Adnan being excited to show off his wealth by treating Niles to a plane ticket. I could even (slightly) understand why he asked if Niles respected their union, as he expected a "yes", and wanted to respond with "And I like you, so here's a ticket". Once again, Adnan can't read the room. But, then the reality just shows a shifty a-hole (Adnan) badgering Niles. I also get why their IG shut off comments. Sadly, Niles appeared to badgering Loren so I give up. I don't know how to hide a potential spoiler.......(below) I stumbled onto reddit posts about TL and Adnan and the replies were vicious to them! Plus a viewer looked into TL's last 8 years and claims she's not legally divorced. I don't recall her saying anything about her marital status, and assumed if they married immediately in Jordan, then she must be single. But still being married may explain why she's always so quiet. She can then honestly state she's never "lied".

I believe Loren was hoping he could talk Faith into doing professional drag, with him as her 'helper/ handler'. He states he's always with drag queens. That way he doesn't have to get a proper job, yet he'll live with, and off of, her. Cheaper in the Phillipines. He'd marry any female if it meant he could stay.

Exactly! Emotionally broken people should NOT be looking for marriage. Fix yourself, find your groove, then look for a mate. I wouldn't call it cheating, but it's definitely emotional abuse.

I still say Josh is her agent who has slept with her when necessary to further his control. He reaches out to others in 90DF, hoping to corral more. I may have invented this, but his actions fit. No one truly believes Natalie is his 3 year girlfriend if she's never been to his house.

I can see Adnan feels women are 2nd class citizens, meant to be protected, yet also accepts them as intellectually inferior. However, I think his behaviour at the tell all was a result of online reading, or hearing, what the other cast members said (about them) during the show. I also think he and TL came in with a narrative about cultural expectations and pregnancy. But I also believed what his mother said to Tigerlily about Adnan. (That's why I think he was more angry and acting out at his co-stars, because he thought they'd buy his narrative.) I think he and Tigerlily are not as strict in real life, especially while in America. Someone here noted he looks different, and I feel it's the stress of realizing people aren't admiring them, as he's always believed. Hence his IG comments are off. Welcome to public opinion, Adnan.

Niles and his meltdowns are pretty consistent with autism symptoms. He can't regulate his emotions or calm down once he is emotional. I find that, as viewers, we are more empathetic than the participants on this show. We all bring our history and personal experiences to this forum to try and make sense of what we're watching. It astounds me that this group is unable to explain, listen or address anything without someone else wanting to rage, judge, or just steal their spotlight. Maybe Shawn should just take audience questions, while letting only the person involved answer. I wish there were therapists backstage to help with mental health. Loren doesn't need to think the world hates him, just because of a tv show.

When Brian tried to get Vanya to answer "why" her relationships all end the same way, we in the audience knew he was hinting that she's the common denominator. Yet Vanya doesn't feel she brings any issues...? I do believe that his foster son was ill and Vanya was annoyed he wasn't on the phone as much with her. If Vanya is too selfish to accommodate a sick child, she will never make allowances for his son.

No one is that good an actor without some sort of personal experience to draw from. Adnan's misogyny shines like a beacon, and Tigerlily is there for it. After all, EVERYONE is jealous of Tigerlily and him. (Ugh! He's so immature for a man who's 23)? When Adnan speaks to Vanya, his face and mannerisms reflect his absolute distaste. He views the majority of women as excrement on the sole of his shoe. The disgust on his face is something I hope he learns how and when to edit.

Shawn should be stepping up and following basic protocol, but she never has. She needs to go given she can't control anyone: Angela, Ed, Jesse, Adnan, Natalie, loren etc. She is useless when it comes to holding people accountable for what we all see. She should have stepped in when Niles threatened "to break someone's face" and she should have shut Adnan down the minute he interrupted Niles tell all segment. This wasn't about Adnan, but she allowed it to be. Who instructed these losers to behave this way? I didn't finish part 2 because I'm embarrassed to be a part of this.

For someone trying to pretend he's mature, and wants to share his experiences so others will learn, is a joke. Brian is still using the same old tired routine over and over to pick up or entrap women. He'll be the 1st to cry we're judging him based upon our anti-disability prejudice. in reality, it's actually all (present and past) women uniting against chauvinistic, and mentally abusive, Brian.

Exactly. I'd like to know whose name Loren wrote down (as his fiancee) while auditioning for 90 Day Fiance. Maybe he only cared about getting on the show, regardless of which partner he ended up with? ⁹He may see himself as an open book, but there's far too much gaslighting, and/ or sins of omission. She'll never be able to trust him.